"We cannot have freedom from the imaginary prison of the cultural- existential mind without desiring it, although, paradoxically, the act of "desiring" freedom will keep us from being free. First we value, then we desire that which we value. To eliminate desire, we must eliminate from the mind the need to value. If we desire to be free from the prison of the cultural/existential mind, we must not place any importance on the means or the end, for to value the means (Zen) or the end (Nirvana) is to imprison ourselves hopelessly in desire. Zen, by eliminating value, consequently eliminates desire."