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  Posted on Aug.17.2009 @ 07:39PM EDT by chontri

O monks, even if you have insight that is pure and clear but you cling to
it, fondle it and treasure it, depend on it and are attached to it, then you
do not understand... continue...

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vertical line Posted on Feb.13.2007 @ 10:13AM EDT by stephen

"We cannot have freedom from the imaginary prison of the cultural- existential mind without desiring it, although, paradoxically, the act of "desiring" freedom will keep us from being free. First we value, then we desire that which we value. To eliminate desire, we must eliminate from the mind the need to value. If we desire to be free from the prison of the cultural/existential mind, we must not place any importance on the means or the end, for to value the means (Zen) or the end (Nirvana) is to imprison ourselves hopelessly in desire. Zen, by eliminating value, consequently eliminates desire."


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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.13.2007
10:21AM EDT 
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vertical line Having never been here before, I don't know what to say, think, or feel, ask with opened eyes... "No going back now?"
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Reply from Master Zen
Feb.14.2007
08:53PM EDT 
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vertical line just relax, stop grasping with your mind
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Reply from Lynnoh
Feb.19.2007
07:53PM EDT 
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Quote: "just relax, stop grasping with your mind "
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:)

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Reply from LeonBasin
Sep.18.2010
04:56AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "just relax, stop grasping with your mind

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So, stop thinking?
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Reply from immortal 1
Sep.18.2010
05:33AM EDT 
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This thread is like old home week.

Stephen, Master Zen, Lynnoh....

Where have you all been hiding ?

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Reply from esoteric
Sep.18.2010
09:50AM EDT 
vertical line They've been hiding in the weeds. ;-)
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Reply from ______
Sep.18.2010
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vertical line You should know.
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