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vertical line Posted on Feb.20.2007 @ 08:24AM EDT by stephen

Recently I visited a bolder field which I played in during my youth. Rocks even change. MU


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Reply from ZenTurtle
Feb.20.2007
09:01AM EDT 
vertical line This kind of reminds me of a zen story:
Inside Or Outside The Mind?

Fa-yen [Hogen] lived alone in a small
temple in the country. One day he
overheard four travelling monks arguing
about subjectivity and objectivity. He
joined them and said: 'There is a big stone.
Do you consider it to be inside or outside
your mind?'
One of the monks replied: 'From the
Buddhist viewpoint everything is an
objectification of mind, so I would say that
the stone is inside my mind.'
'Your head must feel very heavy, then,'
observed Fa- yen, 'if you are carrying
around a stone like that in your mind.'
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Reply from whatzen
Feb.20.2007
11:38AM EDT 
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vertical line Shifting sands of manifestation.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Feb.20.2007
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Quote: "This kind of reminds me of a zen story:
Inside Or Outside The Mind?

Fa-yen [Hogen] lived alone in a small
temple in the country. One day he
overheard four travelling monks arguing
about subjectivity and objectivity. He
joined them and said: 'There is a big stone.
Do you consider it to be inside or outside
your mind?'
One of the monks replied: 'From the
Buddhist viewpoint everything is an
objectification of mind, so I would say that
the stone is inside my mind.'
'Your head must feel very heavy, then,'
observed Fa- yen, 'if you are carrying
around a stone like that in your mind.'
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but what makes the stone heavy?

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Reply from whatzen
Feb.20.2007
01:02PM EDT 
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"But what makes a stone heavy?"

The same thing that makes rocks change. Perception.

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.20.2007
02:53PM EDT 
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vertical line You still can't eat them. Or pass them if they get too big.
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Reply from whatzen
Feb.20.2007
02:58PM EDT 
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Quote: "You still can't eat them. Or pass them if they get too big. "
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Yes, our perceptions tend to be narrow.

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Reply from ______
Feb.20.2007
03:50PM EDT 
vertical line Alimentary.
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Feb.20.2007
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vertical line Quote: "

"But what makes a stone heavy?"

The same thing that makes rocks change. Perception.

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who's perception?

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Reply from whatzen
Feb.20.2007
04:04PM EDT 
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vertical line The rocks.
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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.20.2007
04:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Fossil rock,? That is no rock, his name was Peter, and he liked to sit a lot.. Seemed good at the time, before any church became a man.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Feb.20.2007
04:09PM EDT 
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was at the local Goodwill and found a wonderful book today called "Everybody Needs a Rock" by Byrd Baylor

"Everybody needs a rock. I'm sorry for kids who don't have a rock  for a friend. I'm sorry for kids who only have tricycles, bicycles, horses, elephants, goldfish, three-room playhouses, fire engines, wind-up dragons, and things like that- if they don't have a rock friend......(and there are rules to find this perfect rock friend)... one"If you can, go to a mountain made out of nothing but a hundred million small shiny beautiful roundish rocks. But if you can't, anyplace will do. Even an alley. Even a sandy road."......rule two... "when you are looking at rocks don't let mothers or fathers or sisters or brothers or even best freinds talk to you. You should choose a rock when everything is quiet. Don't let dogs bark at you or bees buzz at you. But if they do. DON'T WORRY. (The worst thing to do is go rock hunting when you are worried)..........

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Feb.20.2007
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Feb.20.2007
04:13PM EDT 
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Quote: "Fossil rock,? That is no rock, his name was Peter, and he liked to sit a lot.. Seemed good at the time, before any church became a man. "
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He aint heavy, he my Brother

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Reply from Lynnoh
Feb.20.2007
04:15PM EDT 
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vertical line ha ha ha ha  :)
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Feb.20.2007
04:41PM EDT 
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vertical line ! there is no who to this anymore
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Feb.20.2007
04:46PM EDT 
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vertical line there is somethin' goin' on around here... and it feels kinda funny too...........
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Feb.20.2007
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Quote: "there is somethin' goin' on around here... and it feels kinda funny too..........."
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"Theres somethin happenin here

what it is aint exactly clear

theres a man with a rock over there

tellin me I have got to be where?"

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.20.2007
05:32PM EDT 
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vertical line I was almost named Peter for God's sake! I was that close to bein' a rock, or church thing, pew. I want nothin to do with the letter "P". Cuz it goes too easily to "R". One little stick and, whamo! Rockstar!
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Reply from ______
Feb.20.2007
06:06PM EDT 
vertical line Call me Paul, John.
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Reply from ZenTurtle
Feb.20.2007
07:58PM EDT 
vertical line Ummm... uhh... The House That Rock Built...
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Reply from whatzen
Feb.20.2007
08:33PM EDT 
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Rock

Star

Stones is fallen stars

Beetles make their homes under them

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Feb.21.2007
08:18AM EDT 
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vertical line Today I feel that p's are just ok. So you can put a "p" in my name, and good luck. From my good old rocking chair wisdom collection, again.  _aul, I am sorry, for you, but you must earn your "p" from me.
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Feb.21.2007
08:37AM EDT 
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Reply from stephen
Feb.21.2007
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vertical line Stanza 1: Transliteration
Ma'oz tsur yeshu'ati
lecha na'eh leshabeakh.
Tikon beit tefilati
vesham todah nezaveakh.
Le'et tachin matbeakh
mitsar hamnabeakh,
'az 'egmor beshir mizmor
khanukat hamizbeakh.

Stanza 1: Popular English Translation (Rock of Ages)
Rock of ages, let our song
Praise Your saving power;
You, amid the raging foes,
Were our sheltering tower.
Furious they assailed us,
But Your arm availed us,
And Your word,
Broke their sword,
When our own strength failed us.

Stanza 1: Literal Translation
O mighty stronghold of my salvation,
to praise You is a delight.
Restore my House of Prayer and there
we will bring a thanksgiving offering.
When You will have prepared the
slaughter for the blaspheming foe,
Then I shall complete with a song of hymn
the dedication of the Altar.
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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.21.2007
08:59AM EDT 
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vertical line Eek! is for Peak.
All!  is for Paul.
Ray! is for Pray.
Rick is... where for is hehe?
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Reply from Lynnoh
Feb.21.2007
11:09AM EDT 
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vertical line House on the rock.....have you ever been there? It has a room called the infinity room.... sways with the wind.......  :) nummy
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Reply from ______
Feb.21.2007
11:47AM EDT 
vertical line Hey Ray
Pay attention
To something
That's Praying
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Feb.21.2007
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vertical line That's nothin', but it's not.
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Feb.21.2007
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vertical line Her eyes were turned into diamonds, her love felt as black as a coat of coal.
Never could she get enough, until the sad thing happened, she then lost all her marbles, sleeping on a park bench, everything was taken back as she remembered the united state of forgiveness. The stone rolled away from her heart  and all the hardness lifted. She looked up to see a pair of geese rising as the sun above the lake at dusk. She had asked nothing for it to appear, not once, so it appeared everywhere, with each thought, a witness of nothing solid.
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Feb.21.2007
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That is a beautiful picture.

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Feb.21.2007
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vertical line That is a prayer. God manifest everywhere and of every thing, impossible not to see the face in the attitudes - all in the space between the kiss and the icon.
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Feb.22.2007
12:08PM EDT 
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vertical line I didn't read this before
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Feb.25.2007
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Quote: "Alimentary. "
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"The alimentary canal includes the mouth, pharynx, esophagus, stomach, small intestine, large intestine, and anus."

Smelly

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.26.2007
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vertical line Smelly is belly in the round.
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line GI bleeds, those are the smelliest, together with cheap coffee grounds. That's when the art of breathing comes in handy. I, am a canal. And almost said camel. Well, I can't choose what I am, just what goes on inside of me. Camels must not be very social animals, this ones not. Up til now, I want to thank the academy, for buying my shit. I try to eat the good stuff.
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line watched my mother nearly die from a GI bleed... in doesn't look funny blood coming up like that...she didn't appreciate it either
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line whats with the lights?
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line Scopes use lights.
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Feb.26.2007
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but lights are evrywhere at anytime...

for looking?

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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line Lights are the one sound source to beginnings.
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line once I looked at my hand and it disappeared... months later it reappeared next to my face on the bed... but it was a glowing outline sorta... where was it's beginningness?
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line and when I lay in bed and see the space changes and the shadows like things go by.... where is thebeginningness?
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line Beginnings are objective, without any chance of rejecting the moment. All lights offer a chance of acceptance.
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line I'm not sure I understand... but I just heard "there is no coming and going"
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Feb.26.2007
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acceptance from what?

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Feb.26.2007
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line ever get the feeling you're hearing something you can't hear?
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line Well, there is a language which is a kind of allspeak, it includes many influences at once. And again it is in the attitude as to what one is, here for. Then each and every moment offers praise, and rejection is a thing of the past, the first option is to see through the suffering and not attach to an outcome as fact, and one-sided. I'm unable to express it well. But it is not limited to time or space, is the most intimate of connections.
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line I have tried to fit the language together sequentially, but it seems to act more like a companion, with the next impulse being the acceptance. This then becomes the offering to others as enlightenment.
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Feb.26.2007
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vertical line woodsman, who are you talking to? and what are you talking about?
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