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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: CH'AN CONTEMPLATION
vertical line Posted on Mar.08.2007 @ 11:55AM EDT by HarryB

"A practiser should keep under control all his six-sense organs and take good care of this hua t'ou [inward pointing statement] by looking into where a thought usually arises, until he perceives his pure self-nature, free from all thoughts. This continuous, close, quiet and indifferent investigation will lead to a still and shining* contemplation (the outcome of which will be)the outright non-existence of the five constituent elements of being (shandas) and the wiping out of both body and mind, without the least thing being left behind. Thereafter, this absolute immutability (should be maintained) in every state, while walking, standing, sitting and lying by day or night. As time goes on, this achievement will be brought to perfection, resulting in the perception of self-nature and the attainment of Buddhahood, with the elimination of all distress and suffering."

* The essence of mind is still and its function is shining.

From: "Ch'an and Zen Teaching, Volume 1" by Lu K'uan Yú (Charles Luk).

Regards,

Harry. 
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Reply from whatzen
Mar.08.2007
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vertical line Nice one! Thanks Harry
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Mar.08.2007
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Mar.08.2007
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vertical line Thanks No thanks thinks thanks Charles for the rewording repetition methinks.
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Reply from ______
Mar.08.2007
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vertical line Anybody hungry? Need a menu? Send your food orders to me c/o zenguide and I will do my everything doable to my absolutist utmostest to fulfill all requests. We thank you!
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Reply from lehish
Mar.08.2007
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ok....salad :)

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Reply from ______
Mar.08.2007
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vertical line ooh, fresh, green and crunchy with absolutely NO virtuals, in a promise of can-do and trust - it's what made this salad GRRREAT!!
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Mar.08.2007
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Quote: "ooh, fresh, green and crunchy with absolutely NO virtuals, in a promise of can-do and trust - it's what made this salad GRRREAT!!"
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chompchompchomp

chomp

:)

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Mar.08.2007
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Mar.08.2007
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vertical line all HI rory
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Mar.09.2007
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vertical line 'tis a treasure meeting, lehish:)
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Reply from HarryB
Mar.09.2007
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vertical line Patent idiocy, the stuff of the school yard. Wake up you idiot.

Regards,

Harry.
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vertical line Sorry, don't do junk food.
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Mar.09.2007
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vertical line So, where does it come from?

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Harry.
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vertical line Raspberries. So.
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“As time goes on, this achievement will be brought to perfection, resulting in the perception of self-nature and the attainment of Buddhahood, with the elimination of all distress and suffering."

 

How can my perception led to elimination?  Distress is real, suffering is real. Must it be under perceived? Is it changed by perception or overlooked.

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Quote: "'tis a treasure meeting, lehish:)"
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yes rustic:)

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Mar.09.2007
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vertical line Fine, I'll go to the stupid party.
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Mar.10.2007
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Quote: "Fine, I'll go to the stupid party. "
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hahaha

and they'll be playing the "Rasberries" with greatest hits "Oh I want to be with you"

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Reply from HarryB
Mar.10.2007
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vertical line Quote: "

How can my perception led to elimination?  Distress is real, suffering is real. Must it be under perceived? Is it changed by perception or overlooked. "

How do you percieve distress, suffering now? What is it when it isn't given a name? What is it when you cease the mental aversion dialogue to experiences generally percieved as suffering?

'Pain' as a physical/ emotional sensation remains, but it is percived and accepted just exactly for what it is without a hint of the suffering of aversion to it. We can know this from the simplest of knee aches or back aches in Zazen. 

Regards,

Harry.

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