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vertical line Posted on Mar.19.2007 @ 09:42AM EDT by stephen

I did something very disruptive to my consciousness this weekend out of ignorance. I was my wife’s birthday and was at an outlet buying her a card. The gentleman in front of me was buying lottery tickets for game called Power ball. The jackpot was at 183 million dollars and my wife was born on 3/18. For the first time in my life I bought 5 one dollar tickets (big spender). What followed was very disconcerting. My mind kept leaving the presence and day dreaming about being rich. Things, attachments and delusions took over. I had flights of fantasies about arranging pay outs. It became over whelming. It took me 2 hours of meditation to center again. As a practical matter I would suggest you leave the lottery alone. MU


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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.19.2007
09:55AM EDT 
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vertical line Uff! One more ticket and you would have had it!! Just blame the wife, if you hadn't already in secret.
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Reply from whatzen
Mar.19.2007
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A journey: ;-)

I did

my consciousness

my wife

I was

my life

I bought

my mind

I had

it took me

I would

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Reply from Lynnoh
Mar.19.2007
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vertical line so it is not okay to daydream then ? I mean when it happens...
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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.19.2007
11:43AM EDT 
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vertical line You have to get another ticket! And if you win, ah, I get half.
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Reply from stephen
Mar.19.2007
12:33PM EDT 
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vertical line close your eyes. what do you see? nothing! you get half. This is the best gift I have given today. MU
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Reply from stephen
Mar.19.2007
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vertical line Quote: "

A journey: ;-)

I did

my consciousness

my wife

I was

my life

I bought

my mind

I had

it took me

I would

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......... The use of personal pronouns is boring and with out style. The problem is to make sure that the actions are not seen as generalizations. These are MY confessions. MU
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Reply from HarryB
Mar.19.2007
12:57PM EDT 
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What if we can do the lottery with clarity and awareness?

Its not that difficult to 'get Satan behind thee' in these circumstances. Maybe your inclination to riches is a little stronger than mine, but I'm sure you can see now just how insubstantial thoughts like that are?

In the Nyingma (ancient) school of Tibetan buddhism there is the practice of 'mindfulness of mind'. Where the 'object' of continious, everyday mindfulness is the movement of the mind... thought/emotions. In a sense this is very direct mindfulness; it deals directly with the mind and how it reacts to the world. The method is very simple, as in many methods of meditation, when a thought or emotion is detected it is simply percieved directly, not fabricated or thought on, welcomed or rejected. When percieved thus the thought goes away and there is generally a little moment of stillness and quiet. The method develops an equinimity towards thoughts and emotions, the practitioner comes to view thoughts and emotions of all kinds as not the stuff to particularly attach to or avoid. Its generally practiced after there has been some experience with formal sitting meditation practice I think; there needs to be a level of awareness and some stability of mind.

Regards,

Harry. 

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Mar.19.2007
01:45PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "close your eyes. what do you see? nothing! you get half. This is the best gift I have given today. MU"
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Not so fast, I'm seein' dollar signs. Get out your pen.
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Mar.19.2007
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "

A journey: ;-)

I did

my consciousness

my wife

I was

my life

I bought

my mind

I had

it took me

I would

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I am sorry if it was boring or if it upset you that I used your pronouns. I was trying to point out where you listed you were during the course of the events you layed out. As if (please pardon my assuming) you were always there as the ultimate balance of the adventure spinning in and out of your experience.

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.19.2007
01:49PM EDT 
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vertical line He's angry cuz he lost his money on the lottery tickets, and not listening to me. Which is good, my birthday is in April, but I'm not tellin' him the day. Might wreck my luck.
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Reply from lehish
Mar.19.2007
01:59PM EDT 
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" did something very disruptive to my consciousness this weekend out of ignorance"

you did?

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Reply from ______
Mar.19.2007
02:22PM EDT 
vertical line **$$**bzeNgo**$$**
nonlotteryism
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Reply from free1500
Mar.19.2007
03:42PM EDT 
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'It took me 2 hours of meditation to center again. "

Someone's center is anothers left?

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Reply from whatzen
Mar.19.2007
05:04PM EDT 
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"So castles made of sand

slip into the sea

eventually"

~Jimi Hendrix

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.19.2007
05:33PM EDT 
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vertical line I like my castles to be made from stone, the hard stuff.

Oh man, I just had a flashback... uff da. Reminded me of the place I work.

Sand is nice.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Mar.19.2007
05:36PM EDT 
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"close your eyes what do you see?"  

  "tick, tick, tick"

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Mar.19.2007
05:37PM EDT 
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vertical line got sand in my eyes today
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Mar.19.2007
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Mar.19.2007
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vertical line got sand thrown on me once, (or at least I thought it was sand)
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Mar.19.2007
05:43PM EDT 
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"close your eyes what do you see?"  

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blue light !

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.19.2007
05:46PM EDT 
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vertical line Um, I've never bought a lottery ticket in my life, and, I make all my own cards. So next time Stephen, I can make you a card, for free. If you want.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Mar.19.2007
05:47PM EDT 
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vertical line okay... I'll go play with the other kids... probably was too "disruptive" ...
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Reply from HarryB
Mar.19.2007
05:47PM EDT 
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Re. "blue light", this from another forum:
"Developing lucidity or sleeping awareness does take repetition and a little bit of intention, but I don't really see it as demanding much by way of effort as such. Some people practice for months before they recognise that they are dreaming though.
The very simplest method of retaining awareness when falling asleep that I've heard of is just setting a determination to retain awareness (for the benefit of all beings if we like) and closing one's eyes and just see what's happening. There's a sort of light shot through with darkness, or vice versa, when we close our eyes and relax, and simply focusing on the light is the method of being aware as we relax and fall asleep. This simple method was explained by the western Dzogchen Lama Surya Das. Many methods involve light/ visualising a flame in a lotus etc.which represents awareness, but I'm not so good at visualisation, and the simple method seems more natural to me."
Regards,
H.
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Mar.19.2007
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Re. "blue light", this from another forum:
"Developing lucidity or sleeping awareness does take repetition and a little bit of intention, but I don't really see it as demanding much by way of effort as such. Some people practice for months before they recognise that they are dreaming though.
The very simplest method of retaining awareness when falling asleep that I've heard of is just setting a determination to retain awareness (for the benefit of all beings if we like) and closing one's eyes and just see what's happening. There's a sort of light shot through with darkness, or vice versa, when we close our eyes and relax, and simply focusing on the light is the method of being aware as we relax and fall asleep. This simple method was explained by the western Dzogchen Lama Surya Das. Many methods involve light/ visualising a flame in a lotus etc.which represents awareness, but I'm not so good at visualisation, and the simple method seems more natural to me."
Regards,
H.

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hmmm. I'm not sure what the light(s) are...  this one came from like a hole in the screen

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Mar.19.2007
05:52PM EDT 
vertical line b$Ng0 £inG0
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Mar.19.2007
05:53PM EDT 
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vertical line this is sorta funny... cause Steven gave half with eyes closed... and I was going to say something about getting half with eyes open...
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Mar.19.2007
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Quote: "b$Ng0 £inG0"
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and Bingo was his name ........O

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Reply from Lynnoh
Mar.19.2007
05:56PM EDT 
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vertical line okay...I'll be goin'
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Reply from Lynnoh
Mar.19.2007
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Re. "blue light", this from another forum:
"Developing lucidity or sleeping awareness does take repetition and a little bit of intention, but I don't really see it as demanding much by way of effort as such. Some people practice for months before they recognise that they are dreaming though.
The very simplest method of retaining awareness when falling asleep that I've heard of is just setting a determination to retain awareness (for the benefit of all beings if we like) and closing one's eyes and just see what's happening. There's a sort of light shot through with darkness, or vice versa, when we close our eyes and relax, and simply focusing on the light is the method of being aware as we relax and fall asleep. This simple method was explained by the western Dzogchen Lama Surya Das. Many methods involve light/ visualising a flame in a lotus etc.which represents awareness, but I'm not so good at visualisation, and the simple method seems more natural to me."
Regards,
H.

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oh... are you talking about the dream of being there when someone was being born dream last night? where you there too?

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Mar.19.2007
06:01PM EDT 
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vertical line okay... goin'
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Mar.19.2007
06:25PM EDT 
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vertical line hope you feel better soon stephen
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Mar.19.2007
06:31PM EDT 
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vertical line a card made of sand  :)
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Reply from boymonk
Mar.19.2007
06:54PM EDT 
vertical line Well, Stephen, if you do ever win the Power ball, don't forget your old buddies at Zenguide forum!!
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Reply from ______
Mar.20.2007
07:27AM EDT 
vertical line Like the stephen of this world said, he saw the lotteries of this world cuz he went looking for 'em, deciding to patronise one. In this way, the status of style and taste buds was given an outlet over substance and being rendered unable to distinguish a neapolitan in a wafer cornet from a cornish choc ice.
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Reply from -----0
Mar.20.2007
12:31PM EDT 
vertical line Stephen, I think that was a good exercise. Just keep buying lottery tickets until it won't disturb your consciousness any more.
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Mar.20.2007
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vertical line Dire Lurid
bin bad boy
maked mistooks
dun blondersh
aaargh
vimmin
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