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  One day a Vinaya master asked a Zen master:
-How should one practice Tao?
The Zen master replied:
-Eat when you are hungry, sleep when you are tired.
The Vinaya master said:
-Most people do that.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: COWARDICE...?
vertical line Posted on Mar.22.2007 @ 12:48PM EDT by HarryB
Modern western culture and society, and Jesub knows what other factors, has reduced a lot of people to jabbering cowards; afraid of other people, afraid of the future, afraid of the past, afraid of  inevitable loss, afraid of life, sex, afraid of the few thoughts they can discern from themselves by accident in quiet places, and just afraid of themselves generally.

It really seems to be a spiraling trend, this fracture.

People have forgotten what it is to have inner strength in this quagmire of self pity and accommodation for neurotic personality amplification. If it weren't for all the burn-outs and blow-ups it might really be fun.

Is true bravery ideological?

What is 'noble' any more?

Regards,

Harry.



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Too much MTV?

Regards,

HTV.

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"What is 'noble' any more?"

Ask Don Quixote ;-)

When has it been any different?

Thus far it appears the masses have always been comfortable in their discomfort of illusion.

Perhaps you can regard yourself fortunate or something to be one of the minority of those who choose to bravely explore beyond the bubble of limited perception.

It is as fun as we make it.

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cow are diced

cube steak

packaged without evidence of suffering

how cowardly can one be?

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Quote: "I did! Any questions? "
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Yeah, any cowardly acts?

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Buddha famously ignored the caste system, yet he still used the term 'noble' in relation to practitioners, practices and observations/ 'truths'.

I don't think he was referring to the sort of 'nobility' that we'd be familiar with; HM The Queen, Corgies, Robin Hood, Vincent Price, The House of Lords etc. etc.

"Tilting at dukkha" said the skinny knight. 

Regards,

Harry.

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Quote: "he had an answer under me "
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Was it an udder answer under you?

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Ok, ok, I'll play:

An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the cojones, how you say, the testicles, of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious.

So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These cojones, or whatever you call them...are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose."

Regards,

Harry.

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Balls!

The udder udder

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He'll never go hungry, there's plenty of that McBeef to go around.

Regards,

Harry.

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vertical line it has been a tough time...to feel so vulnerable... someday I wish these times not so hard... but they are new.. surprises...I don't mind it... but it feels so................. impossibly with no way to know anything right or wrong.... and to feel movement... you wonder ...just where you go
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vertical line The ego is always on the lookout for that tasty tidbit, them less than noble cowards, cuz it's fundamentally insecure - it's got a state of the art broken-people radar, so finds them everywhere it looks. As a separate entity it debases the other in order to exalt itself.
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vertical line it doesn't seem to do any good to resolve the insecurity with words...but it is nice to see them... even though....
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Ok, ok, I'll play:

An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the cojones, how you say, the testicles, of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious.

So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These cojones, or whatever you call them...are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose."

Regards,

Harry.

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What is the bull eating?
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Oh yes, and that cowardice just hates hearing it like it is. Of course, true brazen necked cowardice would be to state that one had transcended cowardice (with very, very few exceptions)... can anyone say that they've completely transcended, negated or embraced every fear???

The coward sees extremes (fear) in everything. Its all terrrrrrrrrrrrrrribibibibibibibilly serious, isn't it?

Regards,

Harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry.

Ps. Where's the coward? Oh dear, what's that ominous knock on the door? Where's my prayer beads...!?!>

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Of course cowardice and being scared (or 'having' scared) aren't neccesarily the same thing.

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source
cow·ard·ice       (kou'?r-dis)  Pronunciation Key 
n.   Ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain.

Hmmmmm, 'ignoble'. I've seen people being supremely noble with their (and others') fear.

Regards,

Harry.

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Dear Lynnoh,

Fear gets me in the gut, it breaks my body in a sense; the fear of being swamped by hatred, indifference and the sheer numbed terror of modern life... is that a broken person? Also, I come from a recent civil war zone, a collective 'broken people'?

We know though I'm sure that 'broken' is just a product of fear; fear, in itself  (seen from our greater perspective) doesn't seem so bad. Why would you think that you're hurting people?

Regards,

Harry.

 

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vertical line To be of fear is to deny oneself all the goodness of life. To be in fear is to have a constant apprehension of death. Identifying with a passing illusion and trying to hold on to it is fear of death. Natural animal fear of death passes when danger subsides and joy of living then resumes. Humans perpetuate the fear of death by imagination. Human life as it is predominately experienced is a complete illusion built on this kind of fear. Such a way of experiencing life has created a hell on this earth. Thankfully there are ways of accessing true awareness of life if we choose to.
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Sounds good, you know, ideologically.

Surly we could be 'forgiven' for reataining a certain reluctance towards being, say, tortured slowly to death, which isn't really that irrational a fear in many places in this world?

Regards,

Harry.

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"... Another teacher's last words were, "I don't want to die!" Coming from his great realization that birth and death are an illusion, he could say with absolute freedom, "I don't want to die!"

Regards,

Harry.

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vertical line I don't have a 'greater perspective', only a perspective, as a member of the 'masses'. Fortunate or unfortunate? However, the ego, in seeing the other, the perceived faults and weaknesses of the other, is blinded to the continual creation of its own seismic fault of separation. I am one of the wounded people - we are all broken and wounded people - no one escapes being wounded. My wounds are transformed, transfigured as the healing of meditation begins - my woundedness has to be realised before I can truly give of myself. I can only give what I have broken out of, what I have let go of. Like breaking bread before I can eat, because food is heaven and we all share.

The ego's idea of the beginner is always closer to its own end than it could ever hope to understand as the I am wakes to the naked awareness of the ego-self, the ahamkara, 'the one who drives the chariot'. Although the ego doesn't want to die, death happens moment by moment, the countless little deaths of the ego and the second death which sweeps away everything known of body and mind. I am because I am not. Unless I pass through the valley of separation, the sadness of existence, I cannot enter the joy of being and rest in the green pastures of union.
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'Transcending thought' ; the most dangerous of distractions.

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HaHahaaahhhaaa, for Christoff's saKE, its Friday you weirdos, lighten up.

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Harry.
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H.
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Sounds good, you know, ideologically.

Surly we could be 'forgiven' for reataining a certain reluctance towards being, say, tortured slowly to death, which isn't really that irrational a fear in many places in this world?

Regards,

Harry.

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If i didnt have my ideologies what would I have? I fear I may die without them!

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Quote: "I haven't even eaten breakfast yet. Maybe I'll just skip it. "
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As one lives and follows the path, the distinction between life and death becomes less and less. It becomes less of a troubling problem to die than to be a coward. A coward dies a thousand deaths but a brave man dies but once. MU

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Sounds good, you know, ideologically.

Surly we could be 'forgiven' for reataining a certain reluctance towards being, say, tortured slowly to death, which isn't really that irrational a fear in many places in this world?

Regards,

Harry.

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Retaining a reluctance to torture and keeping alive an obsessive fear to it may be different. I think I was trying to say if the danger is not immediate (or waiting in the torture chamber from where the screams come) then the fear is based on imaginings and life can become a living hell. I know there are many that hold such irrational fears and stockpile weapons and such, or at least live in fear all the time. It isnt hard to find something to live in fear of. A painted happy face denial doesnt cut it. Living fully in the moment and not in the imaginings of the mind may be a good choice.

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Quote: "It can be hard to let go of distinctions and categories like 'coward' and 'brave man' cuz behind both is a great big mardy bully, oof ooomph, with swollen, fleshy fingers on a vice-like grip. "
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There are those who like that sort of thing!

I never was one that liked it, though I have asked for and gotten that kind of treatment.

There are fine distinctions of fear. From a healthy awareness and avoidance of harm to a perpetuation of bullyhood by creating a fear for such to thrive in. Pain and suffering are always here in this jungle, how we relate to it is our choice.

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Quote: "It can be hard to let go of distinctions and categories like 'coward' and 'brave man' cuz behind both is a great big mardy bully, oof ooomph, with swollen, fleshy fingers on a vice-like grip. "
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So what you are saying is that either one is based on the same kind of illusion of bully awareness. Rather than being either coward or brave man be one who is aware?

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Aha! Blasted ego tactics. Always in the trenches that one!

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To completely let go of distinctions is nihilism, rejection, cowardice... cop out.

We live in a world of stark distintions: Feed the starving Fat Boy! Don't pull that trigger Coward! Exploiting that/them is not very clever you Idiot! Help me outta this hole up there!... We can 'dissolve' these and feel better about oursleves temporarily, y'know Sweet Chocolate Samadhi, but the heart of compassion would quickly let us know about such imbalances before too long, in fact its the breaking of the heart of compassion that creates the whole bloody tragedy.

Some more bullshit for the mill.

Regards,

Harry.

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Wherever I want,or wherever I think you don't want them.

Why do you need them to be somewhere?

Regards,

Harry.

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Y'know, if you really want to expose me as something you could just try asking, up front like. I have nothing to hide.

I'm not promising anything, but it might save you some time.

Regards,

Harry.

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Y'know, if you really want to expose me as something you could just try asking, up front like. I have nothing to hide.

I'm not promising anything, but it might save you some time.

Regards,

Harry.

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No, you're not good with honesty.

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Harry.

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How can people who bang on so much about being 'empty' be so 'full' of shit!

And before this is mistaken as some statement of my superiority, I'm very much including myself in that.

Shit just has the nature of emptiness, knowing that doesn't make it any less shitty it seems. People talk about everything 'Zen' here, all dry ice and mysticism, except the real experience of suffering (with the exception of Lynnoh and Stephen recently). The nature of suffering is a no brainer, its easy, no big deal. Suffering itself is the 'problem' and it doesn't get zap zap zap zazened away easily.

Zen, devoid of humanity (humour, compassion, passion, warmth), is just another crap philosophy.

Well done Stepehen and Lynnoh. I applaud your honesty.

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
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Mar.23.2007
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Mar.23.2007
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Seems my goal posts are a popular distraction today. You know, you'd get all of this quicker from 10 mins. of cable TV...?

AIDS is not a problem, the holocaust is not a problem, world poverty is not a problem... I want my goal post back! Oh, what to hell, keep 'em.

MZ, how could one possibly loose the middle of a donut? Any good jokes?

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
12:07PM EDT 
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Mar.23.2007
12:10PM EDT 
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Oh, yes. I have no problem with cable TV, once I'm aware that I'm watching it.

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
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as MZ has told us, there is nothing wrong with watching TV
- as long as it is switched off

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Mar.23.2007
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Yes, then shouldn't we be turning a lot more off? All those violent people, abusive workmates, 'undesiribles' on the street... is that really practical?

Was Buddha a remote control freak?

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
01:26PM EDT 
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Mar.23.2007
01:28PM EDT 
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Mar.23.2007
01:49PM EDT 
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Hey! Who ran away with the remote?!

"MAYA!!" Come back here. Oh, there you are right in front of me. Hey, wait a minute, how did I get this remote?!

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Mar.23.2007
01:51PM EDT 
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Pandora's box? Yeah, blame 'the manipulator'. He's always just a condemnation away.

Regards,

Harry. 

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Mar.23.2007
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next
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Mar.23.2007
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Dare you mock 'The Manipulator'!!!

Regards,

Harry (late promoted to Variety Diety).

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Mar.23.2007
04:14PM EDT 
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HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.........SLURP.......

HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.........SLURP.......

HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.........SLURP.......

HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.........SLURP.......

HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.........SLURP.......

HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.........SLURP.......

hick.

Dirty alcoholics, disgraceful aren't they. I suppose there's a special place reserved in Hell for 'em??? I'll be the one stewing in the cask of brandy, and loving it. If it makes you feel better about yourself you can whip my nuts with nettles, I doubt I'll notice.

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
04:29PM EDT 
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Mar.23.2007
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Actually, 'The Manipulator' drinks in a private gentleman's club. I'm presently enjoying the singular sight of the sexiest demon that you, personally, can imagine performing erotic dances from the heathenish East. I've just filled a glass of vodka and communion wine, and Giles has just stoked up the fire with a new batch of Holy Bibles. Its a bit dull in here tonight really. I wish I was at home in front of the TV.

Regards,

'Manni' 

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Mar.23.2007
04:41PM EDT 
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Mar.23.2007
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Then will you give me courage. Dutch courage?

Zenguide seems fine for another while.

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
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Must dash, heroin and hooker time, then a nice warm bath. Pray for me, Jezub. I'm everywhere tonight.

Regards,

Harry.

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Mar.23.2007
05:20PM EDT 
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Mar.23.2007
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Must dash, heroin and hooker time, then a nice warm bath. Pray for me, Jezub. I'm everywhere tonight.

Regards,

Harry.

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Boy that all sounds so tempting! Could you get me a position in your corporation? Of course its your job I desire.

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Mar.23.2007
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Mar.23.2007
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No thanks! I would rather play the lottery. Though sinning in a church with a bunch of feinding seniors on a Thursday night does sound a little fun!

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Mar.23.2007
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Mar.23.2007
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Mar.23.2007
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Mar.23.2007
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Must dash, heroin and hooker time, then a nice warm bath. Pray for me, Jezub. I'm everywhere tonight.

Regards,

Harry.

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Having Anger Realisation Releases You.

Don't worry HarryB Happy

With Metta

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Mar.24.2007
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Heehee, very good, I enjoyed that.

In return, somebody asked me what I was up to. Well, I'm listening to Turkish Sufi associated music on the ney flute. Here's a link to a treasure trove of  'the sounds of silence' (some sound clip qualities are more representitive than others):

http://www.neyzen.com/neytaksimleri.htm

Regards,

Harry.

 

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Harry.


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He's in the waste management business and he's looking for someone to whip his little nuts with nettles. Can you handle it, them, with gloves - protective clothing supplied? Course, the remuneration is advertised as the job itself, like, think how you'll be helping yourself feel worse by making him feel better or something. Anyway, for a crying talking sleeping walking living civil-war this is the way the suffering is suffered. Hey, let me know when your anywhere near Benburb and / or Carrickfergus and you can tell me how you all got on. See ya down the DeadDuck. All the best.
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Satan loves you.

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Dead Duck.

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Mar.24.2007
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Mar.25.2007
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sittin' at the diner....... paying a million dollar tab with twelve dollars... and change back !

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Mar.25.2007
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Mar.26.2007
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Mar.26.2007
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Mar.27.2007
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Mar.27.2007
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