Posted on Apr.17.2007 @ 01:14PM EDT by Zenaban
I am very interested in developing a discussion thread with people interested in understanding how the mind works and researching the Supernormal Powers and Forms of Direct Knowledge included in the teachings and more specifically Path of Purification--Bhikku Bodhi translation chapters XII and XIII. This area of the teachings are of great interest to me because of personal meditation and daily experiences.
I've posted three questions to Tricycle Magazine's "Ask Jack" a column in every issue where the community can ask a teacher questions and vote for the questions they would most like to have answered in the next issue. Summer 2007, Jack Kornfield will answer the top 10 questions voted by the community....here's a link to the questions.. http://tricycle.zooleo.com/#f:s_TABS?n:0?n:9 a login is required to vote and and is easily obtainable and free. I've included the questions and related comments in the text below... I look forward to hearing from everyone who is interested in these questions and related comments to Supernormal Powers and Forms of Direct Knowledge creating a strong discussion forum. I would also be very grateful, if you are interested, to please take a few moments to vote for these questions in the Tricycle Magazine “Ask Jack”. I'm very interested in hearing everyone's response and bringing attention to these teachings, related sciences and legal issues.
The questions are limited to 250 characters including whitespace. For each question, there is a comment elaborating on the question.
Can you confirm Supernormal Powers& Direct Knowledge PathofPur(Ch XII& ChXIII)are taught and how SpiritRock can/does use these capabilities for: Interviews; Sangha; change experience.Anonymous submittal resolving issues allowing dharma for all beings
Expanding upon the 250 character space limitation, I'll elaborate my question in comments. Chapter XII “The Supernormal Powers (Iddhividha-niddesa)” and Chapter XIII “Other Direct-Knowledges (Abhinna-niddesa)” contain instructions training the mind using different kasinas and definitions for success developing the supernormal powers and forms direct knowledge. Examples include: Divine Eye, Divine Ear (Ch. XIII, P.1), Mind Made Body including Transformations of Mind Made Body into other forms(Ch. XII P.130-139), Travelling through air (Ch. XII P.39,40), Travelling through walls (Ch. XII P.87) and Penetration of Minds (Ch. XIII P.8). Elegant Universe: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/ explains string theory which may become the Physics explanation for these capabilities of the mind. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html Brain Greene’s 3 1-hour special is an excellent explanation of String Theory and includes some of the above mentioned capabilities of the mind as examples.
Given the teachings include instruction to train the mind developing these capabilities, have Spirit Rock teachers developed these skills. Are these capabilities of mind used by teachers to teach the dharma? I can understand how a teacher having this capability could help meditator’s see their experience more clearly and possibly through Mind Made Body with Transformation, experience states of consciousness which may not have arisen naturally in the meditator’s experience.
Can you explain how Supernormal Powers and Forms of Direct Knowledge can effect change in awareness including perception, feelings, thoughts, the physical body and pain . Anonymous submittal to resolve issues allowing the dharma for all beings
Expanding upon the 250 characters defining the question, I’ve been researching personal experience—during meditation and daily life—which I hypothesize to be related to the use of Supernormal Power. Meditation experiences include cessation of all mental faculty, awareness of form without boundaries and seeing the rise and fall of each sense door object with just over 2 years meditation practice. Daily life experiences include, channeling speech and the removal of bodily pain sensation from personal experience. I’m beginning to read Bhikkhu Bodhi’s translation of the Abhidhamma to develop an understanding of the mind, consciousness and how the Supernormal Power can be used to modify another’s experience. Realizing there may be space requirements for responding to questions, can you describe the components of awareness and their relationship to different types of consciousness and how the Supernormal Power can effect change. Does this change occur in the sense consciousness prior to awareness? Relating this to personal experience, if bodily pain is an object of the body sense door and the Mind Made Body with Transformation can alter the awareness of the body sense, does the Mind Made Body with Transformation remove the bodily pain from the awareness of my experience and therefore it becomes a constituent of the awareness of the Supernormal Power possessor.
As a Spirit Rock founding teacher, can you explain how you would resolve issues related to retreat experiences influenced by Supernormal Powers. Anonymous submittal to resolve issues allowing the dharma for all beings.
I’d like to expand upon the 250 character limitation for questions… Can you include in your answer how you as founding teacher of Spirit Rock, would protect meditators, teachers, staff and all beings from the use of Supernormal Power without consent. Understanding the difficulty to “prove” the use of Supernormal Power effecting their personal experience and the violation of constitutional rights committed by the Supernormal Power possessor, would you agree the Supernormal Power possessor should lose their constitutional rights and have the mind “read” through the use of Mind Penetrating Mind (Path of Purification –Bhikku Bodhi translation Chapter XIII paragraph 8) capability. Do you feel this information should be admissible in court of law? Do you feel the Supernormal Power possessor should lose their 5th Amendment right not to incriminate themselves. How would you work towards resolving this