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  Chang-ch'o, an educated man, once asked the Chinese Ch'an master Chih-t'sang:
-Is there paradise or hell?
Chih-t'sang replied:
-No.
Chang-ch'o protested:
-That is not correct. When I was studying under the priest... continue...

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vertical line Posted on Apr.29.2007 @ 08:52PM EDT by shayne
what does the term no mind mean in zen?
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Apr.30.2007
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vertical line does it mean non attention?
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Apr.30.2007
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Reply from kelvintan
Apr.30.2007
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Hi

Sharing. Hope Answer Your New Enquiring mind

No mind is consciousness without thought

The mind abides nowhere

When it abides that is where

the Thoughts is.

With Metta

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Reply from En Shin
May.01.2007
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vertical line In Zen teaching one's "mind" is generally thought of as the part of one's consciousness which does the thinking, evaluating, judging and discriminating.  In western thought, this is often considered the totality of one's mental experience.  In Zen teaching we are taught to recognize the part of our consciousness which comes before thought, before analysis, before discrimination.  

The term "No Mind" is used to point at this.  It is used to guide us toward our own direct experience of reality, before the act of conceptualization.  It is kin to the famous koan "What is your face before your parents were born?"  To become clearly aware of one's own direct experience and the difference between that experience and our usual thinking mind with all of its beliefs, concepts, expectations, fears, hopes, etc., can often be a first step toward awakening.

Zen in particular, and Buddhism in general, offer various techniques to guide one to the experience of "No MInd".  What you must remember is that this experience is not some great exalted spiritual state.  It is there at every moment.  We simply must teach ourselves to be aware of it.

Peace,

En Shin
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May.01.2007
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Quote: "No mind is consciousness without thought" 
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Freedom lies beyond the field of consciousness.

J Krishnamurti
 

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May.02.2007
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Quote: "No mind is consciousness without thought" 
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Freedom lies beyond the field of consciousness.

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All is Just One Mind.

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Reply from Lynnoh
May.02.2007
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Quote: "In Zen teaching one's "mind" is generally thought of as the part of one's consciousness which does the thinking, evaluating, judging and discriminating.  In western thought, this is often considered the totality of one's mental experience.  In Zen teaching we are taught to recognize the part of our consciousness which comes before thought, before analysis, before discrimination.  

The term "No Mind" is used to point at this.  It is used to guide us toward our own direct experience of reality, before the act of conceptualization.  It is kin to the famous koan "What is your face before your parents were born?"  To become clearly aware of one's own direct experience and the difference between that experience and our usual thinking mind with all of its beliefs, concepts, expectations, fears, hopes, etc., can often be a first step toward awakening.

Zen in particular, and Buddhism in general, offer various techniques to guide one to the experience of "No MInd".  What you must remember is that this experience is not some great exalted spiritual state.  It is there at every moment.  We simply must teach ourselves to be aware of it.

Peace,


En Shin "
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En Shin "
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