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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: JESUIT ZEN MASTERS
vertical line Posted on Jun.11.2007 @ 04:50PM EDT by koanhead

Has anyone read any books by Fr Robert E. Kennedy or any other Jesuit zen masters?   And if so, what are your opinions on them?  Any recommendations?

I'm not a catholic but I've always admired the way that the Jesuits have usually been on the forefront of all things progressive/heretical.


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Reply from ______
Jun.11.2007
05:17PM EDT 
vertical line Kennedy's Christianity is in the tradition of Ignatius of Loyola, Gerard Hughes, Anthony de Mello, the Cistercians (eg Thomas Merton, Laurence Freeman, Thomas Keating, John Main et al) and Meister Eckhart (to name but a few) - an emptying out of the self in order not just to imitate Christ but to realise Christ consciousness, the kingdom of heaven now.
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Reply from stephen
Jun.11.2007
06:32PM EDT 
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vertical line To empty ones self is one thing, yet to fill it with others conscinceness is another. MU
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Reply from ______
Jun.11.2007
06:48PM EDT 
vertical line 'To realise' does not mean 'to fill up with with others conscinceness (sic)'. Maybe it's tilting at cocoons with ice-creams or something or something eh?
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Reply from ______
Jun.11.2007
07:09PM EDT 
vertical line Ah, ok I misunderstooded, it's a fill it / up on, Buddha nature flavour, with additives probably. Hey I'm wrong again and I don't care.....way way up uh hole ding dong yeah yeah!
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Reply from ______
Jun.11.2007
07:55PM EDT 
vertical line oops I'm back. Realising one's true nature, Christ consciousness, Buddha nature, union with God, oneness - (any other descriptions to compare it with?) - mathematically and scientifically speaking, involves subtraction and not addition. In a mindful and awareness, awareness, awareness way, so to speak. So I say, anyway.
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Reply from ______
Jun.11.2007
08:09PM EDT 
vertical line Shouldn't you be starting a new topic?
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Reply from lehish
Jun.12.2007
05:38AM EDT 
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rustic...lololololllooooooo

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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
09:06AM EDT 
vertical line 'Retard' guy for president!

Retards,

Harry.
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Reply from stephen
Jun.12.2007
09:16AM EDT 
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vertical line We already got that, let us try something else. MU
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
10:14AM EDT 
vertical line That's really a slur on retards. Shame on you.

Regards,

H.
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2007
10:15AM EDT 
vertical line Right yeah let's. Let's try. Let's try to get brainwashed. Let's try to look for an enlightened retard to brainwash us - preferably one with a good dress sense and a nice line in shirts.
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2007
10:36AM EDT 
vertical line If in doubt, go for the one in the big hat. And don't forget to file a report.
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
10:54AM EDT 
vertical line Do you suffer from indigestion?

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Harry.
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2007
11:05AM EDT 
vertical line Our Harry
Who art in Dublin
Hallowed be thy name
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
11:14AM EDT 
vertical line Well, really, there's no need for all that. Shut up for a while, if that helps then you can thank me... in as weird a way as you see fit.

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Harry.
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2007
11:17AM EDT 
vertical line Silence isn't an absence of sound it's an absence of self. Hey look, I'm multi-tasking. That ok with you?
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
11:49AM EDT 
vertical line Is it indeed? Go worship some guy in a coma.

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Harry.
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
11:54AM EDT 
vertical line ... some guy in a coma, that is, who hated himself before he was hit with The Divine Shovel of Seemless Primordial Wisdom.

Sleep tight,

H. 
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2007
12:05PM EDT 
vertical line You want to talk about it?
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
12:10PM EDT 
vertical line I just did!

There's volumes written about it... it would bore the ass from under a saint.

Did Buddha practice self loathing? Is that what Bodhidharma brought out of the West? If so he should have stayed looking at a wall between bouts of Jakie Chan-on-bad guy action.

Our selves will be scattered to the wind rather unceremoniously before too long. What a shame if we spend our little bit of time wrestling with what we are.

Regards,

Harry.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jun.12.2007
12:12PM EDT 
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vertical line and what are we?
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Reply from HarryB
Jun.12.2007
12:15PM EDT 
vertical line Do you really need to ask? You are what you are... I don't know, I can't tell you.

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Harry.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jun.12.2007
12:17PM EDT 
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vertical line yes, I do... beyond what words we place for it... what am I? right now
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2007
12:26PM EDT 
vertical line Naked.
How's this? I'm a stripped down naked son of an I not identifying with me when awareness is a switched on observer. I'm no republican either, and I is none of the other labels either. Either ors either. oops now I'm in trouble.
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Jun.12.2007
01:02PM EDT 
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vertical line always naked.. no surprise
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Jun.12.2007
01:03PM EDT 
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vertical line not using all the photo paper..so as to not get into trouble
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jun.12.2007
08:28PM EDT 
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Quote: "Is it indeed? Go worship some guy in a coma.

Regards,

Harry.
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HMMMMM

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