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Posted on Oct.01.2007 @ 03:25PM EDT by boymonk
What do you think is the essence of right view?
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
03:59PM EDT
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Put that behind your ear. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
04:16PM EDT
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hey baby, what's that behind them Foster Grants? Not who... Oh, it's government subsidy. Open wide... nice nursie woods is gonna put you in two, room # 2..
I think I just sinned, in some other life, which is usually the case, for a nurse, otherwise I'd be a banker... and sin more often.
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
04:19PM EDT
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Earwax? uh, I no think so. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.01.2007
04:28PM EDT
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No, chewing gum off course.. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
04:32PM EDT
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Who's afaid of chewing gum... a dental do not,
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
04:39PM EDT
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Gum? uh, I no think so. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
04:45PM EDT
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How many goes at this do they get before you say what you think? |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
04:51PM EDT
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Aren't you listening? What? |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
04:52PM EDT
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Goes? uh, I no... you know the rest. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
04:53PM EDT
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That's what you think. |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
04:57PM EDT
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Think? ... :) |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
05:04PM EDT
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Yeah it's your boy-product. Now, essence, you were thinking... |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
05:09PM EDT
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Where's Rory? |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
05:17PM EDT
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With us in spirit. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
05:28PM EDT
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The view that comes through is a dream, not real, until you learn to harness it. The mind is a raging river, just listen to the news, breaking us down. But then it gets tiresome, the same old noise, becomes irritating.
Quiet becomes the norm, one settles down, and does less, to impress. The needs for food, sex, distractions of all kinds, dwindle, and one faces a great divide, in one's self, unless one becomes truth itself.
Truth is what you have, without the noise of anger, without the voice trying to lift a rock, in defense of an idea, or externally placed ideal.
One looks up, at everyone, everything.
So rocks that were formerly used for causing injury, become relics, of the past, and oneness gets rid of the past, through healing it, dropping memories that cause pain, with gentleness, and quiet.
But, this is just me talking, sometimes, I don't need to say anything, and just see things as they are around me, without having to change O, in looking into my larger self, which has grown out of denial, the denial of suffering, caused by pleasure, the pleasure to please others, or myself, as isn't one.
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
05:32PM EDT
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WebJaw WebJaw...see me, feel me, and the rest of the **me as I really really am. Can you do that Chuck? Can ya? huh? huh? |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
05:38PM EDT
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Truth is without presumptions, I presume? |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
05:42PM EDT
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Ok-ok-ok, now that we've proved how light and empty we are, time to get heavy and full. I'm think'n the essence of right view is... oh, I don't know.... howz about... uh, wait a sec, phone ringing. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
05:45PM EDT
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You can't presume anything, until you ask. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask. I mean, a person, with eyes open, laying on a stretcher, is laying there for a reason. I assume they want some rest from whatever put them there. But assumptions are short-lived, or never looked at. I assume I am on earth to live, for a reason. But I am more than what I believe, or can figure out in my little rational mind. There is a much bigger thing going on, at all times.
We are connected to everyone, we just have to stop the fight, and reconsider one another, as we are in, one another, have been, will always stay, until this is seen, then we can let go. Like we let go of anger, greed... all the lies, of who we are not, no longer limited by.
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
05:50PM EDT
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I'm always going to be broken down, stretched apart, mashed up, pulped, imperceptibly - who isn't? But my dream is no more real or truthful than your dream. You exist only because I create you, in my dream, I make you up as I go along. And vice-versa. I live in a nation of liars, a world of lying - this dream of you. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
05:59PM EDT
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Now, I'm being called downstairs 'Paul. . . P A U LLL!!...(I'm upstairs in this study), 'Ok, ok'. . . I'm wanted, downstairs. I have to go, downstairs. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
06:16PM EDT
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Right and wrong views are not opposites, as being separated by denial. Don't get me started on non-existence. You go with what calls you., "hello, this is John." (sync?). But viewing anything is passive, no words to flower the thing up, to better it, because we live in a very nonverbal world, and make eye contact as a means of connecting to being one, without being the force of change, without having any needs, other than the basics, and then... well it's view again. I rise up as in view, the written word is viewed. If I have a wrong view, it will change, easier without words to justify on bended knee, or bottom. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.01.2007
06:45PM EDT
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prrrr... prrrr... prrrr... :) |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
06:51PM EDT
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Ah, right and wrong views - see? - I didn't realise the question was about right and wrong views. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
06:52PM EDT
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Trying to connect you... . . . . . ............ . . |
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
07:00PM EDT
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. . . . . .... . . . . .. .please leave a message after the tone. . . . ..... . . . . . . .... .. ._______________________________ |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
07:36PM EDT
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Alrighty then! We've got a "we can let go" from the woodman. Can I get a whoop whoop? plz?
Anywho, anyone else for a presumed essence? |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.01.2007
08:35PM EDT
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I'm right here. How are all of you doing. Right View. It's with the eyes of compassion, to see things for the first time just as they are. To be apart of all you see. To give kindness , love peace, careing, to grow from all you see. Give love to the right view. If you see it as a wrong view it will bring evil. Right View is just as it sayes, Right view, see it all with a open heart. Hay boymonk & all how are you. RORY |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
08:47PM EDT
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To employ an old childhood saying, hay is for horses. :) But I'm fine, thanks for ask'n. You? |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.01.2007
09:46PM EDT
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Quote: "I'm right here. How are all of you doing. Right View. It's with the eyes of compassion, to see things for the first time just as they are. To be apart of all you see. To give kindness , love peace, careing, to grow from all you see. Give love to the right view. If you see it as a wrong view it will bring evil. Right View is just as it sayes, Right view, see it all with a open heart. Hay boymonk & all how are you. RORY"
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You are right, right up to compassion. Rest is wrong. You are not giving me a headache...
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
10:13PM EDT
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Ok, I was wrong, was is sin, was bad, got sick and died... then there was that terrible deer fly incident. It was habit I tell you. Just "wack!" and now he's dead. How did I know he was goin' to be on the road? Wait a minute? These are not my stories! I was speaking from theory, not in real person! So, the fly still lives! He's right over there, on the crucifix. Lucky them Jesus's hands are nailed down. Or he'd be a swatter too. Wait a minute! Oh yeah, they're still nailed down. Phew! For a second there I thought it was comin' off the tree. Maybe it's from there that it looks that way, ta me. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.01.2007
10:30PM EDT
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Oh, there you are Woodsi!:) Come give g`old Nibbler a hug!:) Cooome an, don`t be shy!
There is just not enough love on this forum, come oon snozi cozi!:) You too RORY, biiiiig whomsie clomsie hug! LOVE YA ALL
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
10:59PM EDT
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Hey, I was born in Levanger. So, ah, if ya hug me, reach up, shorty. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
11:12PM EDT
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Jus wanted you to have the right view of me, from down there, cream pie. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
08:50AM EDT
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I can beat that if I want. With wings. And thoughts - a product of the right view. |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.02.2007
01:54PM EDT
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Generally speaking, right view consists of an understanding of the Four Nobel Truths, which are:
1. The Nature of Dukkha: Suffering exists in life.
2. The Origin of Dukkha (Samudaya): Suffering is caused by craving.
3. The Cessation of Dukkha (Nirodha): To eliminate suffering, eliminate craving.
4. The Way Leading to the Cessation of Dukkha (Magga): To eliminate craving follow the Eightfold Path.
However, right view also consist of more in depth philosophical ideas, such as: not-self doctrine, impermanence, dependent origination, the five aggregates, karma and rebirth.
So, if all this can be distilled down what would remain? |
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
01:58PM EDT
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Religion. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.02.2007
04:01PM EDT
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Quote: "Generally speaking, right view consists of an understanding of the Four Nobel Truths, which are:
1. The Nature of Dukkha: Suffering exists in life.
2. The Origin of Dukkha (Samudaya): Suffering is caused by craving.
3. The Cessation of Dukkha (Nirodha): To eliminate suffering, eliminate craving.
4. The Way Leading to the Cessation of Dukkha (Magga): To eliminate craving follow the Eightfold Path.
However, right view also consist of more in depth philosophical ideas, such as: not-self doctrine, impermanence, dependent origination, the five aggregates, karma and rebirth.
So, if all this can be distilled down what would remain?"
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Dukkha.. I`m no expert in Pali, but I`ve understood that Dukkha translated as suffering is not accurate, what path would you follow to avoid the suffering of being whacked into a bloody pulp by some giant bamboo stick? Dukkha.. unsatisfactoriness or something?..
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Oct.02.2007
04:11PM EDT
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(Levanger?? U poor thing! Then U have a mustache and normally wear a red shirt with a black leather west I supppose?) |
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Reply from -----0
Oct.02.2007
04:23PM EDT
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the right view is seeing just as it is
without applying concepts and intellectual understanding
the view of original, unborn mind
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
04:30PM EDT
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Who's next? I already said that, that - what he said but I said it in a question. How many more ways are there of saying what this right view is - this right view that only makes Buddha sense? It's a right view by numbers - a right view that don't mean a thing if you never heard about Buddhising. |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.02.2007
04:34PM EDT
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Quote: " the right view is seeing just as it is
without applying concepts and intellectual understanding
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
04:36PM EDT
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No, what he means is what you mean - what you heard about from someone else, either by word of mouth or in a book, or on tv, or a film, or the internet &c. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
05:01PM EDT
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"the view of original, unborn mind" = "applying concepts and intellectual understanding" |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.02.2007
05:59PM EDT
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You all have done your home work. Thats right view to . To see an learn from applying are self to the understanding of what we see an want to learn. To give of are self in the present momnent. To know it and share it with others. Your whole additude on life. your out put, faith, likes and diss likes or all in Right view of who you are and ever will be in the life you live. Love you all RORY |
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Oct.02.2007
06:49PM EDT
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Quote: "No, what he means is... "
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Talk'n bout presumptuous, huh, Oh Lordy! |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.02.2007
06:57PM EDT
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Enjoy, Enjoy,Enjoy, Right View at it's best. Have a smooth day. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
06:58PM EDT
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No, not presumptuous, just insightful, the meaning, the concepts and the intellectual understanding in plain view, there for all to see. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
07:01PM EDT
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I'm sure someone will be along shortly to make it even more obvious. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.02.2007
08:41PM EDT
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Yeah, me too. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.02.2007
08:48PM EDT
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Yeah, uh huh. |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.02.2007
08:54PM EDT
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Em hum. :) |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.02.2007
08:55PM EDT
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pre–sum–p–tuous! hehe |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.02.2007
10:48PM EDT
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The love of one other. and understanding of RIGHT VIEW. Give that man a prize. |
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Oct.03.2007
07:08AM EDT
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Quote: "
the right view is seeing just as it is
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the view of original, unborn mind
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Hi, fine, ...but isn't it right view still view of concept? Can we say seeing just as seeing, also still a concept? Can unborn mind be expressed at all? Isn't it, once expressed, it is already conceptive, SIR? Am listening! Thanks! |
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Oct.03.2007
07:55AM EDT
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squish squish. . . .where did that elbow come from and how the hellfire did it get in my ear? Wait a seconder, there's a finger on the end jabbing my bloody eyes out....that's what I want to know squish . . . . . . mmmmnnnnnnffffffffff |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.03.2007
12:45PM EDT
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I suppose it would be simpler to ask what is wrong view around these parts of the woods, being it the thicket of thieves and all. |
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Oct.03.2007
01:01PM EDT
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Reply from ______
Oct.03.2007
01:54PM EDT
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You suppose eh? Wrong view is side on view is rear view mirror is nothing to do with concept of right view.
Verily he say unto you, today you shall be with him in paradise. |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.03.2007
01:56PM EDT
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See. :) |
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Reply from ______
Oct.03.2007
02:09PM EDT
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Yeah look out! |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.03.2007
02:16PM EDT
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.03.2007
02:30PM EDT
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.03.2007
02:31PM EDT
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.03.2007
02:32PM EDT
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Reply from gebhart099
Oct.03.2007
08:54PM EDT
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" Relatively speaking, there are right views and there are wrong views. But if we look more deeply, we see that all views are wrong views. No view can ever be the truth. It is just from one point; that is why it is called a " point of view." If we go to another point, we will see things differently and realize that our first view was not entirely right. Buddhism is not a collection of views. It is a practice to help us eliminate wrong views. The quality of our views can always be improved. From the viewpoint of ultimate reality, Right View is the absence of all views. " from The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching by Thich Nhat Hanh |
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.03.2007
09:18PM EDT
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Reply from lehish
Oct.03.2007
11:44PM EDT
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.04.2007
12:53AM EDT
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Quote: "" Relatively speaking, there are right views and there are wrong views.   "
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.04.2007
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Quote: ""Right View is the absence of all views.""
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
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any view is view |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.04.2007
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So, so. No fighting kids! |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
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Ahem.....right I cut & pasted this from a [Buddhist] site called, yep can you believe it? - "The Big View".....anyway somebody published all the numbered rights up to 8, with 5 Mindfulnesses and 10 Precepts and 4 Noble Truths, [if you're looking for the 10 Commandments you'll have to look elsewhere]...and this is that Right View:
1. Right View
Right view is the beginning and the end of the path, it simply means to see and to understand things as they really are and to realise the Four Noble Truth. As such, right view is the cognitive aspect of wisdom. It means to see things through, to grasp the impermanent and imperfect nature of worldly objects and ideas, and to understand the law of karma and karmic conditioning. Right view is not necessarily an intellectual capacity, just as wisdom is not just a matter of intelligence. Instead, right view is attained, sustained, and enhanced through all capacities of mind. It begins with the intuitive insight that all beings are subject to suffering and it ends with complete understanding of the true nature of all things. Since our view of the world forms our thoughts and our actions, right view yields right thoughts and right actions.
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Right? ok let's proceed....
but remember this is before, that is, before breakfast, ok.....
Sleep is involved, oh yes, sleep, 'The Sleep' to be more rightly precise and accurate and not to put too fine a particular point on it and dreams. And people say, ok, what do you mean? what dreams? and for the sake of argument, how do I know when I've woken from my sleep, or 'The Sleep' if you insist...I mean, they say, how do I know that I haven't woken up into another sleep? - You 'get' the 'gist'?
Well, as the bucket said to the water, The Sleeping is you and me, and him and her, it and them and us. Death's in there too in lots of pieces. That's The Sleep dreaming. So, dreams are no less real than anything else, indeed, real dreams are good - they can help the me wake from my sleep, the sleep of separation. The awake doesn't then act mechanically, as if there is no separation between the mes and yous, but cannot see separation - this is right view. Has suffering disappeared in your view? In my view...
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
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....essence, now essence...requires a distillation process producing vapour which condenses as spirit...like fat and oil gets rendered down and soup reduces to sauce....which is remindful reminding today did I remember to plan yesterday what I intend to be doing tomorrow... |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
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...no, phew...it's ok, I'm just hungry. |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
08:37AM EDT
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hehehe
any view is view |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
08:50AM EDT
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Quote: "The Big View"..... "
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were tbv and didn't respond to the question smurf posted? ;) |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
09:09AM EDT
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This is the site:
http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html
hmmm....not aware of tbv [forum] until now - sahyo?
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
09:20AM EDT
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Reply from -----0
Oct.04.2007
12:46PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: " the right view is seeing just as it is
without applying concepts and intellectual understanding
the view of original, unborn mind
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Hi, fine, ...but isn't it right view still view of concept? Can we say seeing just as seeing, also still a concept? Can unborn mind be expressed at all? Isn't it, once expressed, it is already conceptive, SIR? Am listening! Thanks!"
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You are right. Whenever we say a word we already give birth to a world of presentations. So that a view we can talk about is not the right view any more. The Tao you can name is not the real Tao.
I like how Bankei was explaining the Unborn to an assembly of monks. He said that the proof that they all already have the Unborn mind innately is that, while attentively listening to him talk, they can all still hear the cawing of crows, the chirping of sparrows or the rustling of the wind going on in the background.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
12:49PM EDT
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.04.2007
01:32PM EDT
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Quote: "Has suffering disappeared in your view? In my view...
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The essence of right view is the absence of suffering... uh, I no think so. :) |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
01:56PM EDT
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could there be no words for right veiw..though can be put to words...because ..see-feeling...cannot be in words..yet.. in words too indeed...if you stand on right and wrong... no... there is none but so indeed... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I have felt this topic..out inside but know not what...and could seefeel it... but I have nothing to write about it... but this |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
01:58PM EDT
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I am a question - I don't do answers..you should know by now. However, you want answers? Bankei? Or a post-mortem? The blind-man knows Bankei by the sound of his voice. Same thing? Then you need look no further than that which you are responding to. The moment you begin you're at the end. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
02:00PM EDT
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I did indeed ask..why no one gave any answers... |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
02:01PM EDT
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"I am a question".......rrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
02:08PM EDT
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"rrrrrrrrrr"? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
02:14PM EDT
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the rrr of no words... no explanation... |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
02:15PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Has suffering disappeared in your view? In my view...
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The essence of right view is the absence of suffering... uh, I no think so. :)"
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No? uh duh duh duh a wella wella wella....I asked "has suffering disappeared in your view?" in context of being awake or if you like it this way better - in awareness. You no think so? - you no think so. Do you know someone who know so? |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
02:23PM EDT
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Quote: "I have felt this topic..out inside but know not what...and could seefeel it... but I have nothing to write about it... but this"
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
02:25PM EDT
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from where? |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
02:31PM EDT
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of what? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.04.2007
02:33PM EDT
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
03:22PM EDT
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Quote: "from where?"
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.04.2007
05:02PM EDT
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To lQQk in side ones heart an view what you see. To shear with others your viewings on how we all can help one other free or selfs of suffering. To give love & compassion,kindness,. To all liveing things. To be one in sprit with your self & life. My Right View live on for every. Like a shadow that wont leave us. Love is topic so much, thank you all. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
06:02PM EDT
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I'm fading out of view. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
06:21PM EDT
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Faders are on and I'm writing a New Biography of Satan in which I intend to rehabilitate God's reputation. Chapter 1: Making Inroads Into Original Sin....Mwha ha HA HA AHA......er AHA? Ok, who made a noise? |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
06:24PM EDT
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tea ? |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
06:27PM EDT
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Drinking rice-milk cocoa and eating toast. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
06:29PM EDT
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'scuse me |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.04.2007
06:35PM EDT
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Quote: "Drinking rice-milk cocoa and eating toast."
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weren't typing ?
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Reply from ______
Oct.04.2007
06:41PM EDT
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Yeah, all simultaneous while standing on one leg and writing a book - oh and then had to wash my hands. |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.04.2007
07:05PM EDT
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Love'ya love'ya What nice postings. Tea anyone? |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.04.2007
10:39PM EDT
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Been a most productive day, finally got my ass together and started digging myself out of my financial mess.
During last 24H I`ve managed to cough up 5500kr missing dues on my loan, and got acceptance and sent invoice for 15.000 to a client due for payment by todays date. And even made some visible progress on their project.
I`m quite good when my parents get a letter from the bank telling them that they're nimwit son has not responded or made any down payment on the loan they guaranteed for...
Wonder how my life would have been if I could just get someone to follow me around with a gun, totally ready to kill me if I did not do the right thing... Hmmm..
Oh, an hour ago I even found by chance some project files I thought were destroyed months ago, stopping any further progress with a new client.
I`ve been real lucky lately...
Oh, I`ve tried to be real good to, as in being gentle to myself and others. Tried being truthful and clear cut in emotions and thinking when relating to the world.
I see luck as a good sign of doing something right, right views? |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.04.2007
11:02PM EDT
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Quote: "I see luck as a good sign of doing something right, right views?"
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Uh, me no think so... Have some RORY tea! :) |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.04.2007
11:22PM EDT
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Love'ya that was good to read. Hay sib. hang in there life is good. just be good to your self. And look it's only money. Very good boymonk. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.05.2007
02:27AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "I see luck as a good sign of doing something right, right views?"
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Uh, me no think so... Have some RORY tea! :)"
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Reply from ______
Oct.05.2007
07:15AM EDT
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Oh yeah baby...it's californication - it's a seller, it's sweet and wet...it's a c r a v i n g...um no drink, er no think, who blink? heh? duh doh dohsie doh...heh uuuuuurrrrrp.....PTOOF!...P T O O F! |
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Reply from ______
Oct.05.2007
08:23AM EDT
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News from Nowhere - my mum just phoned to tell me she has breast cancer. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.05.2007
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nibs - what projects are you working on? What do you do for your clients? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.05.2007
02:34PM EDT
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Quote: "News from Nowhere - my mum just phoned to tell me she has breast cancer. "
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.05.2007
02:49PM EDT
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Quote: "
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but I was a part of it..seeingfeelingoutsideinside ? being? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.05.2007
02:50PM EDT
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how would I say where...when placing the foot inside the shoe? understand? |
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Reply from lehish
Oct.05.2007
03:58PM EDT
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Quote: "how would I say where...when placing the foot inside the shoe? understand?"
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didn't ask to you to say but you did anyway ;) |
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.05.2007
06:36PM EDT
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I will put love & compassion in sprit for your mom. To be free of her suffer. Right view is knowing are parsents. Be there for her is the best I can tell you. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.05.2007
06:54PM EDT
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.05.2007
09:04PM EDT
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Your very welcome. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.06.2007
04:34PM EDT
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Quote: "nibs - what projects are you working on? What do you do for your clients?"
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I call myself graphical designer, i make 3Danimasjon for offshore, web pages, brochures, posters, and all kind of different marketing related work for companies.
Right now I`m mainly working for a company called NTOS, updating and improving the website and 3D presentation movie I made for them.
Also finishing a web design for a friend`s netshop, and finishing off a communication chart that is suppose to be a manual/ project guide of how the different aspects of the company relates to each other.
Why do you ask?
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Reply from ______
Oct.06.2007
06:51PM EDT
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Coz Ism s toopid. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.07.2007
10:59AM EDT
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Thats alright, i`m stupid too. |
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Reply from gebhart099
Oct.10.2007
08:49PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: ""Right View is the absence of all views.""
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You mean relatively speaking of course!"
......... When Thich Nhat Hanh says that we can always improve the quality of our views, he is speaking in terms of relative truth. When he says that Right View is the absence of all views, he is speaking in terms of absolute truth. Zen mind is said to be empty mind. Empty of what? Everything, including views. What is Nirvana? The extinction of all concepts i.e. views. |
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Reply from ______
Oct.10.2007
09:19PM EDT
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Thich Nhat Hanh is talking about ideas. Like when he talks about God and the Trinity, he is pointing at awareness in the realising human being. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.10.2007
10:39PM EDT
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Quote: "could there be no words for right veiw..though can be put to words...because ..see-feeling...cannot be in words..yet.. in words too indeed...if you stand on right and wrong... no... there is none but so indeed... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I have felt this topic..out inside but know not what...and could seefeel it... but I have nothing to write about it... but this"
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Would it help if I just said yes, but forget the thought of "putting whatever into words", cause this tread can never be anything else than a little interesting, mostly funny or downright boring since the "question" is meaningless, absurd. And we`d all just end up trying to describe a certain feeling, or mood, whatever, that we think associates with "this topic". And in writing this bullshit I`Ive postponed working by at least some worthwhile moments and even bothered to read the long "dictionary" postings. F*ck heaven tomorrow, hell, heaven, who cares, this is zen. And, eh... I`m ranting ain't am? I`ve found a pencil, that`ll work. Just poke myself insanely in the arm if I don`t work, just as when I tried to stay awake during lectures before! I`m a genius!:) Gotta GO! |
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.11.2007
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "What is Nirvana? The extinction of all concepts i.e. views."
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