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vertical line Posted on Oct.01.2007 @ 03:25PM EDT by boymonk
What do you think is the essence of right view?
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
03:59PM EDT 
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vertical line Put that behind your ear.
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line hey baby, what's that behind them Foster Grants?  Not who... Oh, it's government subsidy. Open wide... nice nursie woods is gonna put you in two, room # 2..

I think I just sinned, in some other life, which is usually the case, for a nurse, otherwise I'd be a banker...  and sin more often.
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
04:19PM EDT 
vertical line Earwax? uh, I no think so.
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Oct.01.2007
04:28PM EDT 
vertical line No, chewing gum off course..
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Oct.01.2007
04:32PM EDT 
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vertical line Who's afaid of chewing gum... a dental do not,
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Oct.01.2007
04:39PM EDT 
vertical line Gum? uh, I no think so.
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Oct.01.2007
04:45PM EDT 
vertical line How many goes at this do they get before you say what you think?
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Oct.01.2007
04:51PM EDT 
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vertical line Aren't you listening? What?
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
04:52PM EDT 
vertical line Goes? uh, I no... you know the rest.
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Oct.01.2007
04:53PM EDT 
vertical line That's what you think.
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Oct.01.2007
04:57PM EDT 
vertical line Think? ... :)
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Oct.01.2007
05:04PM EDT 
vertical line Yeah it's your boy-product. Now, essence, you were thinking...
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Oct.01.2007
05:09PM EDT 
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vertical line Where's Rory?
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Oct.01.2007
05:17PM EDT 
vertical line With us in spirit.
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Oct.01.2007
05:28PM EDT 
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vertical line The view that comes through is a dream, not real, until you learn to harness it. The mind is a raging river, just listen to the news, breaking us down. But then it gets tiresome, the same old noise, becomes irritating.

Quiet becomes the norm, one settles down, and does less, to impress. The needs for food, sex, distractions of all kinds, dwindle, and one faces a great divide, in one's self, unless one becomes truth itself.

Truth is what you have, without the noise of anger, without the voice trying to lift a rock, in defense of an idea, or externally placed ideal.

One looks up, at everyone, everything.

So rocks that were formerly used for causing injury, become relics, of the past, and oneness gets rid of the past, through healing it, dropping memories that cause pain, with gentleness, and quiet.

But, this is just me talking, sometimes, I don't need to say anything, and just see things as they are around me, without having to change O, in looking into my larger self, which has grown out of denial, the denial of suffering, caused by pleasure, the pleasure to please others, or myself, as isn't one.
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Reply from ______
Oct.01.2007
05:32PM EDT 
vertical line WebJaw WebJaw...see me, feel me, and the rest of the **me as I really really am. Can you do that Chuck? Can ya? huh? huh?
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
05:38PM EDT 
vertical line Truth is without presumptions, I presume?
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
05:42PM EDT 
vertical line Ok-ok-ok, now that we've proved how light and empty we are, time to get heavy and full. I'm think'n the essence of right view is... oh, I don't know.... howz about... uh, wait a sec, phone ringing.
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Oct.01.2007
05:45PM EDT 
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vertical line You can't presume anything, until you ask. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask. I mean, a person, with eyes open, laying on a stretcher, is laying there for a reason. I assume they want some rest from whatever put them there. But assumptions are short-lived,  or never looked at. I assume I am on earth to live, for a reason. But I am more than what I believe, or can figure out in my little rational mind. There is a much bigger thing going on, at all times.

We are connected to everyone, we just have to stop the fight, and reconsider one another, as we are in, one another, have been, will always stay, until this is seen, then we can let go. Like we let go of anger, greed... all the lies, of who we are not, no longer limited by.
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Oct.01.2007
05:50PM EDT 
vertical line I'm always going to be broken down, stretched apart, mashed up, pulped, imperceptibly - who isn't? But my dream is no more real or truthful than your dream. You exist only because I create you, in my dream, I make you up as I go along. And vice-versa. I live in a nation of liars, a world of lying - this dream of you.
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line Now, I'm being called downstairs 'Paul. . . P A U LLL!!...(I'm upstairs in this study), 'Ok, ok'. . . I'm wanted, downstairs. I have to go, downstairs.
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.01.2007
06:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Right  and wrong views are not opposites, as being separated by denial. Don't get me started on non-existence. You go with what calls you., "hello, this is John." (sync?). But viewing anything is passive, no words to flower the thing up, to better it, because we live in a very nonverbal world, and make eye contact as a means of connecting to being one, without being the force of change, without having any needs, other than the basics, and then... well it's view again. I rise up as in view, the written word is viewed. If I have a wrong view, it will change, easier without words to justify on bended knee, or bottom.
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Oct.01.2007
06:45PM EDT 
vertical line prrrr... prrrr... prrrr... :)
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line Ah, right and wrong views - see? - I didn't realise the question was about right and wrong views.
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Oct.01.2007
06:52PM EDT 
vertical line Trying to connect you... . . . . . ............ . .
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Oct.01.2007
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
07:36PM EDT 
vertical line Alrighty then! We've got a "we can let go" from the woodman. Can I get a whoop whoop? plz?

Anywho, anyone else for a presumed essence?
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.01.2007
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vertical line I'm right here. How are all of you doing. Right View. It's with the eyes of compassion, to see things for the first time just as they are. To be apart of all you see. To give kindness , love peace, careing, to grow from all you see. Give love to the right view. If you see it as a wrong view it will bring evil. Right View is just as it sayes, Right view, see it all with a open heart. Hay boymonk & all how are you. RORY
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.01.2007
08:47PM EDT 
vertical line To employ an old childhood saying, hay is for horses. :) But I'm fine, thanks for ask'n. You?
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Oct.01.2007
09:46PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "I'm right here. How are all of you doing. Right View. It's with the eyes of compassion, to see things for the first time just as they are. To be apart of all you see. To give kindness , love peace, careing, to grow from all you see. Give love to the right view. If you see it as a wrong view it will bring evil. Right View is just as it sayes, Right view, see it all with a open heart. Hay boymonk & all how are you. RORY"
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You are right, right up to compassion. Rest is wrong. You are not giving me a headache...
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line Ok, I was wrong, was is sin, was bad, got sick and died... then there was that terrible deer fly incident. It was habit I tell you. Just "wack!" and now he's dead. How did I know he was goin' to be on the road? Wait a minute? These are not my stories! I was speaking from theory, not in real person! So, the fly still lives! He's right over there, on the crucifix. Lucky them Jesus's hands are nailed down. Or he'd be a swatter too. Wait a minute! Oh yeah, they're still nailed down. Phew! For a second there I thought it was comin' off the tree. Maybe it's from there that it looks that way, ta me.
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line Oh, there you are Woodsi!:) Come give g`old Nibbler a hug!:) Cooome an, don`t be shy!
There is just not enough love on this forum, come oon snozi cozi!:) You too RORY, biiiiig whomsie clomsie hug! LOVE YA ALL
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line Hey, I was born in Levanger. So, ah, if ya hug me, reach up, shorty.
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Oct.01.2007
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vertical line Jus wanted you to have the right view of me, from down there, cream pie.
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
08:50AM EDT 
vertical line I can beat that if I want. With wings. And thoughts - a product of the right view.
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.02.2007
01:54PM EDT 
vertical line Generally speaking, right view consists of an understanding of the Four Nobel Truths, which are:

1. The Nature of Dukkha: Suffering exists in life.
2. The Origin of Dukkha (Samudaya): Suffering is caused by craving.
3. The Cessation of Dukkha (Nirodha): To eliminate suffering, eliminate craving.
4. The Way Leading to the Cessation of Dukkha (Magga): To eliminate craving follow the Eightfold Path.

However, right view also consist of more in depth philosophical ideas, such as: not-self doctrine, impermanence, dependent origination, the five aggregates, karma and rebirth.

So, if all this can be distilled down what would remain?
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Oct.02.2007
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line Quote: "Generally speaking, right view consists of an understanding of the Four Nobel Truths, which are:

1. The Nature of Dukkha: Suffering exists in life.
2. The Origin of Dukkha (Samudaya): Suffering is caused by craving.
3. The Cessation of Dukkha (Nirodha): To eliminate suffering, eliminate craving.
4. The Way Leading to the Cessation of Dukkha (Magga): To eliminate craving follow the Eightfold Path.

However, right view also consist of more in depth philosophical ideas, such as: not-self doctrine, impermanence, dependent origination, the five aggregates, karma and rebirth.

So, if all this can be distilled down what would remain?
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Dukkha.. I`m no expert in Pali, but I`ve understood that Dukkha translated as suffering is not accurate, what path would you follow to avoid the suffering of being whacked into a bloody pulp by some giant bamboo stick? Dukkha.. unsatisfactoriness or something?..
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Oct.02.2007
04:11PM EDT 
vertical line (Levanger?? U poor thing! Then U have a mustache and normally wear a red shirt with a black leather west I supppose?)
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Reply from -----0
Oct.02.2007
04:23PM EDT 
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the right view is seeing just as it is
without applying concepts and intellectual understanding
the view of original, unborn mind

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Oct.02.2007
04:30PM EDT 
vertical line Who's next? I already said that, that - what he said but I said it in a question. How many more ways are there of saying what this right view is - this right view that only makes Buddha sense? It's a right view by numbers - a right view that don't mean a thing if you never heard about Buddhising.
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Oct.02.2007
04:34PM EDT 
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the right view is seeing just as it is
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the view of original, unborn mind


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By "unborn mind" you must mean a mind without craving, as craving causes suffering and an unborn mind doesn't suffer, does it?
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Reply from ______
Oct.02.2007
04:36PM EDT 
vertical line No, what he means is what you mean - what you heard about from someone else, either by word of mouth or in a book, or on tv, or a film, or the internet &c.
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line "the view of original, unborn mind" = "applying concepts and intellectual understanding"
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line You all have done your home work. Thats right view to . To see an learn from applying are self to the understanding of what we see an want to learn. To give of are self in the present momnent. To know it and share it with others. Your whole additude on life. your out put, faith, likes and diss likes or all in Right view of who you are and ever will be in the life you live. Love you all  RORY
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Oct.02.2007
06:49PM EDT 
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Talk'n bout presumptuous, huh, Oh Lordy!
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line Enjoy, Enjoy,Enjoy,       Right  View at it's best. Have a smooth day.
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line No, not presumptuous, just insightful, the meaning, the concepts and the intellectual understanding in plain view, there for all to see.
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line I'm sure someone will be along shortly to make it even more obvious.
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Oct.02.2007
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line Em hum. :)
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line pre–sum–p–tuous! hehe
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Oct.02.2007
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vertical line The love of one other. and understanding of RIGHT VIEW. Give that man a prize.
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Oct.03.2007
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the right view is seeing just as it is
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the view of original, unborn mind

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Hi, fine, ...but isn't it right view still view of concept? Can we say seeing just as seeing, also still a concept? Can unborn mind be expressed at all? Isn't it, once expressed, it is already conceptive, SIR? Am listening! Thanks!

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Oct.03.2007
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Oct.03.2007
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vertical line I suppose it would be simpler to ask what is wrong view around these parts of the woods, being it the thicket of thieves and all.
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Oct.03.2007
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Oct.03.2007
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vertical line You suppose eh? Wrong view is side on view is rear view mirror is nothing to do with concept of right view.

Verily he say unto you, today you shall be with him in paradise.
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Oct.03.2007
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Oct.03.2007
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vertical line " Relatively speaking, there are right views and there are wrong views. But if we look more deeply, we see that all views are wrong views. No view can ever be the truth. It is just from one point; that is why it is called a " point of view." If we go to another point, we will see things differently and realize that our first view was not entirely right. Buddhism is not a collection of views. It is a practice to help us eliminate wrong views. The quality of our views can always be improved. From the viewpoint of ultimate reality, Right View is the absence of all views. "    from The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching by Thich Nhat Hanh   
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Oct.04.2007
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We've aleady covered this!
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Oct.04.2007
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You mean relatively speaking of course!
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line Ahem.....right I cut & pasted this from a [Buddhist] site called, yep can you believe it? - "The Big View".....anyway somebody published all the numbered rights up to 8, with 5 Mindfulnesses and 10 Precepts and 4 Noble Truths, [if you're looking for the 10 Commandments you'll have to look elsewhere]...and this is that Right View:

1. Right View

Right view is the beginning and the end of the path, it simply means to see and to understand things as they really are and to realise the Four Noble Truth. As such, right view is the cognitive aspect of wisdom. It means to see things through, to grasp the impermanent and imperfect nature of worldly objects and ideas, and to understand the law of karma and karmic conditioning. Right view is not necessarily an intellectual capacity, just as wisdom is not just a matter of intelligence. Instead, right view is attained, sustained, and enhanced through all capacities of mind. It begins with the intuitive insight that all beings are subject to suffering and it ends with complete understanding of the true nature of all things. Since our view of the world forms our thoughts and our actions, right view yields right thoughts and right actions.

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Right? ok let's proceed....

but remember this is before, that is, before breakfast, ok.....

Sleep is involved, oh yes, sleep, 'The Sleep' to be more rightly precise and accurate and not to put too fine a particular point on it and dreams. And people say, ok, what do you mean? what dreams? and for the sake of argument, how do I know when I've woken from my sleep, or 'The Sleep' if you insist...I mean, they say, how do I know that I haven't woken up into another sleep? - You 'get' the 'gist'?

Well, as the bucket said to the water, The Sleeping is you and me, and him and her, it and them and us. Death's in there too in lots of pieces. That's The Sleep dreaming. So, dreams are no less real than anything else, indeed, real dreams are good - they can help the me wake from my sleep, the sleep of separation. The awake doesn't then act mechanically, as if there is no separation between the mes and yous, but cannot see separation - this is right view. Has suffering disappeared in your view? In my view...

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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line ....essence, now essence...requires a distillation process producing vapour which condenses as spirit...like fat and oil gets rendered down and soup reduces to sauce....which is remindful reminding today did I remember to plan yesterday what I intend to be doing tomorrow...
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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hehehe

any view is view

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Oct.04.2007
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Quote: "The Big View"..... "
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were tbv and didn't respond to the question smurf posted? ;)

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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line This is the site:

http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html

hmmm....not aware of tbv [forum] until now - sahyo?

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Oct.04.2007
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Hi, fine, ...but isn't it right view still view of concept? Can we say seeing just as seeing, also still a concept? Can unborn mind be expressed at all? Isn't it, once expressed, it is already conceptive, SIR? Am listening! Thanks!"
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You are right. Whenever we say a word we already give birth to a world of presentations. So that a view we can talk about is not the right view any more. The Tao you can name is not the real Tao.

I like how Bankei was explaining the Unborn to an assembly of monks.  He said that the proof that they all already have the Unborn mind innately is that, while attentively listening to him talk, they can all still hear the cawing of crows, the chirping of sparrows or the rustling of the wind going on in the background.

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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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The essence of right view is the absence of suffering... uh, I no think so. :)
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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line could there be no words for right veiw..though can be put to words...because ..see-feeling...cannot be in words..yet.. in words too indeed...if you stand on right and wrong... no... there is none but so indeed... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I have felt this topic..out inside but know not what...and could seefeel it... but I have nothing to write about it... but this
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Oct.04.2007
01:58PM EDT 
vertical line I am a question - I don't do answers..you should know by now. However, you want answers? Bankei? Or a post-mortem? The blind-man knows Bankei by the sound of his voice. Same thing? Then you need look no further than that which you are responding to. The moment you begin you're at the end.
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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No? uh duh duh duh a wella wella wella....I asked "has suffering disappeared in your view?" in context of being awake or if you like it this way better - in awareness. You no think so? - you no think so. Do you know someone who know so?
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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look

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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line To lQQk in side ones heart an view what you see. To shear with others your viewings on how we all can help one other free or selfs of suffering. To give love & compassion,kindness,. To all liveing things. To be one in sprit with your self & life. My Right View live on for every. Like a shadow that wont leave us. Love is topic so much, thank you all.
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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line Faders are on and I'm writing a New Biography of Satan in which I intend to rehabilitate God's reputation. Chapter 1: Making Inroads Into Original Sin....Mwha ha HA HA AHA......er AHA? Ok, who made a noise?
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Oct.04.2007
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tea ?

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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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weren't typing ?

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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.04.2007
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vertical line Been a most productive day, finally got my ass together and started digging myself out of my financial mess.
During last 24H I`ve managed to cough up 5500kr missing dues on my loan, and got acceptance and sent invoice for 15.000 to a client due for payment by todays date. And even made some visible progress on their project.

I`m quite good when my parents get a letter from the bank telling them that they're nimwit son has not responded or made any down payment on the loan they guaranteed for...

Wonder how my life would have been if I could just get someone to follow me around with a gun, totally ready to kill me if I did not do the right thing... Hmmm..

Oh, an hour ago I even found by chance some project files I thought were destroyed months ago, stopping any further progress with a new client.

I`ve been real lucky lately...

Oh, I`ve tried to be real good to, as in being gentle to myself and others. Tried being truthful and clear cut in emotions and thinking when relating to the world.

I see luck as a good sign of doing something right, right views?
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Oct.04.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.05.2007
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Oct.06.2007
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I call myself graphical designer, i make 3Danimasjon for offshore, web pages, brochures, posters, and all kind of different marketing related work for companies.
Right now I`m mainly working for a company called NTOS, updating and improving the website and 3D presentation movie I made for them.

Also finishing a web design for a friend`s netshop, and finishing off a communication chart that is suppose to be a manual/ project guide of how the different aspects of the company relates to each other.

Why do you ask?
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Oct.07.2007
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You mean relatively speaking of course!
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Would it help if I just said yes, but forget the thought of "putting whatever into words", cause this tread can never be anything else than a little interesting, mostly funny or downright boring since the "question" is meaningless, absurd. And we`d all just end up trying to describe a certain feeling, or mood, whatever, that we think associates with "this topic". And in writing this bullshit I`Ive postponed working by at least some worthwhile moments and even bothered to read the long "dictionary" postings. F*ck heaven tomorrow, hell, heaven, who cares, this is zen. And, eh... I`m ranting ain't am? I`ve found a pencil, that`ll work. Just poke myself insanely in the arm if I don`t work, just as when I tried to stay awake during lectures before! I`m a genius!:) Gotta GO!
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