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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: THE FUTURE IS NOT PREDETERMINED
vertical line Posted on Oct.10.2007 @ 08:21PM EDT by shayne
the future is not cast in stone. nothing says it follows a predetemined course. the past is dead. the future can be changed.
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Reply from gebhart099
Oct.10.2007
08:51PM EDT 
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vertical line I agree. We create our karma day by day through our actions so its all up to us.
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.10.2007
09:04PM EDT 
vertical line Taking responsibility for being the only one that can influence the experience called life.
Who care about the future, what about now? My point is, it was nice yapping away, writing these words. But I`ll bet I`ll sleep better if I get some work done and probably a better future, so why am I still here? G`night:)
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Reply from ______
Oct.10.2007
09:10PM EDT 
vertical line There is no such thing that lives called future - it is an idea of what could be, might be, would like to be, fear may be, all tied up neat and wrapped in fantasy masquerading as dream. Creating karma day by day? Nay, there is no day by day. You have an idea of a non idea of what it is you think you are trying to talk about. In trying to convey much, nothings are conveyed. In trying to understand, no things are understood and when attempting an explanation along those lines all one succeeds in doing is lying. Sorry if you think that's harsh but that's the way it is, day by day isn't in it, fortunately or unfortunately. Pick a label - and every thing and no thing is its own karma.
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Reply from Snibbler
Oct.11.2007
05:21PM EDT 
vertical line Amen:)
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Reply from gebhart099
Oct.14.2007
10:46AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "There is no such thing that lives called future - it is an idea of what could be, might be, would like to be, fear may be, all tied up neat and wrapped in fantasy masquerading as dream. Creating karma day by day? Nay, there is no day by day. You have an idea of a non idea of what it is you think you are trying to talk about. In trying to convey much, nothings are conveyed. In trying to understand, no things are understood and when attempting an explanation along those lines all one succeeds in doing is lying. Sorry if you think that's harsh but that's the way it is, day by day isn't in it, fortunately or unfortunately. Pick a label - and every thing and no thing is its own karma. "
......... In terms of relative(worldly) truth there is both a past and a future which are connected by the present(now). Perhaps I should've said that we create our kharma now by now. In terms of absolute truth there is no past, present, or future. And of course there is no absolute or relative truth either. Harsh? Give it your best shot.
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Reply from ______
Oct.14.2007
11:15AM EDT 
vertical line "Best shot"? Ah, no.
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Reply from ______
Oct.14.2007
11:24AM EDT 
vertical line I can kick your ass though, how's that? Bang-Bang!
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Reply from gebhart099
Oct.14.2007
02:27PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "I can kick your ass though, how's that? Bang-Bang!"
......... Ouch!!! That hurt!!! I'm glad it wasn't your best shot. I once heard someone defend corporal punishment by saying, in all seriousness, that that's why God gave humans buttocks.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.17.2007
11:20AM EDT 
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nothing can be predetermined..but it can be predetermined 

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Reply from Lynnoh
Oct.17.2007
11:21AM EDT 
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vertical line throwing stones... first stopping, then missing... now right through the windsheild without breaking..
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Reply from ______
Oct.17.2007
11:21AM EDT 
vertical line Yash, I jest predeterminatered it-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.17.2007
05:33PM EDT 
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vertical line What is. just knowing who you are. And what you well ever be in life. A loveing sprit. That to me is the future. If we all can show kindness 24/7.
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Reply from boopoom
Oct.18.2007
01:31AM EDT 
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love,boopoom

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Reply from ______
Oct.18.2007
06:33AM EDT 
vertical line Intoxicating wine, that head-stuff.
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Oct.18.2007
06:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Thank you. You are one kind human spirt.
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Reply from fatnhappy
Oct.25.2007
02:18AM EDT 
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vertical line Hello shayners ,

I didnt realize there was a future to even ponder . I dont feel you can change the "future" only your personal path is what you have control over so the moments that may happen next are only carried forward by the entity called "I" You have control over your next action but to say that you could ever control the whole possable future is a bit egotistical . There is so much that happens moment to moment ......right ?
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Reply from shayne
Oct.25.2007
10:18PM EDT 
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vertical line what we do has karmic effects. generally speaking only your path can be changed. but that doesnt mean one voice cant make a differance.
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Reply from whatzen
Nov.09.2007
07:51PM EDT 
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vertical line There is no future
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Reply from ______
Nov.10.2007
09:17AM EDT 
vertical line There is now you gave it a name you ******* ****** ******** er shit. . .
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Nov.12.2007
06:57PM EDT 
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You are the Future. See it all with the eyes of compassion.

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