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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: TIME DONT EXIST
vertical line Posted on Oct.31.2007 @ 10:01PM EDT by shayne

time dont exist. it is a condtioned aspect of the earth revolving around the sun and the earth turning on its axis. if we lived on mars and it turned on its axis every 36 hours and revolved around the sun every 400 days the conditioning would be changed. which is correct. the universe has no time.

god is was and always will be


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Oct.31.2007
10:02PM EDT 
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vertical line to me god = allah = suchness = reality = universe
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.31.2007
11:03PM EDT 
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vertical line time exists as a passing away  of what
we are born with, grow older, and die to selfishness, being aware

and in between these extremes
we are given certain views to hold, or not, if we can take them as blessings

when we change our way of thinking
it has been done for us, as it was before us

in that, things happen that make us
become more than just wanting to stay comfortable, one gives, all away, back.

so one by one, as the hours pass
we drop the desire for, the anger, the ignorance
until we are born with nothing left
but to open

the third eye

for the witnessing
as we speak of, we are joined
together in love
with the mystical, the sublime comfort of the unknown way
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Oct.31.2007
11:55PM EDT 
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vertical line thats cool there woodsy
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.31.2007
11:57PM EDT 
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vertical line you should hear the real shit, but i can't repeat the past... it's an enlightenment thing
minus the word"s"
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Nov.01.2007
06:08PM EDT 
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vertical line For the love of Zen. And the sprit we live with. Good job.
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.01.2007
08:14PM EDT 
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vertical line i'm sorry
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Nov.01.2007
08:25PM EDT 
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Quote: "i'm sorry "
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what are you sorry about????

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Nov.01.2007
08:33PM EDT 
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vertical line my respect to a creator being if one is.
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Nov.01.2007
08:33PM EDT 
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what are you sorry about????

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for writing it... it was a before the fact kinda thing


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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.01.2007
08:47PM EDT 
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vertical line omg, there's a square chocolate chip in this cookie i'm holding

"ermph..." all gone

but still there, in my mind's eye, i don't know, it was like, it was put there, for a reason

not just to be consumed by some fire of taste satiation, of lower nature

so now what can be done with it?

the idea is one of originality, and serendipitous cause

it's the unexplainable that stands for something, we cannot consume, without feeling somehow, connected

it's as if everything, has a voice, an honor of being made
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Nov.01.2007
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vertical line Quote: "it's as if everything, has a voice, an honor of being made

it's the unexplainable that stands for something, we cannot consume, without feeling somehow, connected

the idea is one of originality, and serendipitous cause

so now what can be done with it?

not just to be consumed by some fire of taste satiation, of lower nature

but still there, in my mind's eye, i don't know, it was like, it was put there, for a reason

"ermph..." all gone

omg, there's a square chocolate chip in this cookie i'm holding
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Ever felt like time can go either way?
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.01.2007
09:09PM EDT 
vertical line Nah, don`t believe in "time" either.

Always annoyed when some dude are whimsing back and forth trough time in the movies.
As I see it, traveling back in time would mean all atoms, particles, etc. coming to an abrubt stop, for so to go backwards along the exact pattern they`ve traveled.
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Nov.01.2007
09:25PM EDT 
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vertical line it's time to take a crap, when the feeling moves ya
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.01.2007
10:02PM EDT 
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vertical line ok, i'm back, just in time, for you to listen

close your eyes

i see two hands, coming together as one

they are holding something

it's not food, but seems more like a fabric, a woven fabric, a dark  burgundy color, but also organic, i can't tell what

it seemed that on the thumbnails there was a painted scene, identical on each, but in micro version
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Reply from shayne
Nov.01.2007
10:05PM EDT 
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what are you babbeling about john?

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Nov.01.2007
10:07PM EDT 
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vertical line something being given, in this time

an offering, held together by equal forces

these hands arise from the center, before me, i, time is me, in it
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Nov.01.2007
10:08PM EDT 
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Quote: "something being given, in this time

an offering, held together by equal forces

these hands arise from the center, before me, i, time is me, in it
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ah................whats that ?

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Nov.01.2007
10:10PM EDT 
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vertical line time is running out, i am coming to an end  -
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Nov.01.2007
10:12PM EDT 
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Quote: "time is running out, i am coming to an end  - "
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what are you going on about their johny?

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Nov.01.2007
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Quote: "time is running out, i am coming to an end  - "
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what are you going on about their johny?

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their is no end. their is no begining.

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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.01.2007
10:23PM EDT 
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vertical line i'm sorry, this time.
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Nov.01.2007
10:24PM EDT 
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vertical line what are you sorry about. stop saying your sorry. lol,
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.01.2007
10:40PM EDT 
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vertical line i'm sorry i was wrong and you were right, i should just stop, like time will, when the power goes out

ok

i'm stopping, i won't say i'm sorry

not unless ya give me a reason to

just let me be right for once, twice, three times...

SOLD!
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.01.2007
10:50PM EDT 
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vertical line the cookie made me do it, i mean it was there for a reason, square chips just don't pop out of thin air, to be gawked at, and eaten

time is a snake eating his tail
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.02.2007
07:48AM EDT 
vertical line Poetic John?:)

There`s only this everlasting moment
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.02.2007
12:44PM EDT 
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vertical line i don't want to try to be anything, i'm not.
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.02.2007
03:11PM EDT 
vertical line Just don`t be boored
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.02.2007
03:15PM EDT 
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vertical line who has the time, to name it?
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Nov.02.2007
03:39PM EDT 
vertical line more and more time is being created all the time
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.02.2007
04:21PM EDT 
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vertical line get this one...

today is a work night, so, I do my 12.3 miles on the stationary bike, sweating down my t-shirt till it's soaked, and my  beard is getting really, ah, nasty.

then i go for the 3.5 mile walk with the doggies, on the back roads, hardly ever see anybody, but today there is this woman walking across from me,  wearing white, i pick up the little white dog as we say, "hello" she smiles, and from behind me, quietly rides a guy on a bike.

we all pass at the same time, at the same place

it's almost as if it was planned, but not

something is happening here

mr. jones
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.02.2007
06:25PM EDT 
vertical line Jones?
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.02.2007
06:27PM EDT 
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Nov.02.2007
06:28PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "more and more time is being created all the time"
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Where?
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Nov.02.2007
06:34PM EDT 
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U`r not called John but Jones? Or am I stone or something?:0i
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.02.2007
06:53PM EDT 
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vertical line Listen to some Dylan. i'm there.
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Reply from shayne
Nov.02.2007
08:48PM EDT 
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vertical line whats the benefit to not having a mind obsessed with time?
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Nov.02.2007
09:33PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "get this one...

today is a work night, so, I do my 12.3 miles on the stationary bike, sweating down my t-shirt till it's soaked, and my  beard is getting really, ah, nasty.

then i go for the 3.5 mile walk with the doggies, on the back roads, hardly ever see anybody, but today there is this woman walking across from me,  wearing white, i pick up the little white dog as we say, "hello" she smiles, and from behind me, quietly rides a guy on a bike.

we all pass at the same time, at the same place

it's almost as if it was planned, but not

something is happening here

mr. jones
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So weird ....Woods your observations are profound and enlightening .....Ive had these very same feelings ....so weird ....the moments i mean not you of course ...but then again i have never met you and can make no judgment on someone Ive never met .....
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.03.2007
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vertical line Ballad of a Thin Man

Ballad of a Thin Man Lyrics
Artist(Band):Bob Dylan

You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, "Who is that man?"
You try so hard
But you don't understand
Just what you will say
When you get home

Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You raise up your head
And you ask, "Is this where it is?"
And somebody points to you and says
"It's his"
And you say, "What's mine?"
And somebody else says, "Where what is?"
And you say, "Oh my God
Am I here all alone?"

But something is happening
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, "How does it feel
To be such a freak?"
And you say, "Impossible"
As he hands you a bone

And something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You have many contacts
Among the lumberjacks
To get you facts
When someone attacks your imagination
But nobody has any respect
Anyway they already expect you
To all give a check
To tax-deductible charity organizations

You've been with the professors
And they've all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks
You've been through all of
F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
You're very well read
It's well known

But something is happening here
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you
And then he kneels
He crosses himself
And then he clicks his high heels
And without further notice
He asks you how it feels
And he says, "Here is your throat back
Thanks for the loan"

And you know something is happening
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word "NOW"
And you say, "For what reason?"
And he says, "How?"
And you say, "What does this mean?"
And he screams back, "You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home"

And you know something's happening
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin' around
You should be made
To wear earphones

'Cause something is happening
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

;)
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Nov.03.2007
10:08AM EDT 
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vertical line dah da da dah...

opp, leaves are moving on the deck, they need a hug before i go to bed, in them
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Nov.03.2007
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vertical line it felt so good leaving work this morning
i love an empty parking garage on cold saturdays
when the beard is not itching to stay inside and itch to grow outward toward home
the girls have a gleeful eye looking at it, my face emerging as a backdrop for an animal awareness 
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Nov.03.2007
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vertical line :)
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Nov.03.2007
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vertical line god i feel empty

which ain't a bad thing

is like the nature of all prayer

connecting one with what could not be, within me, without me, within, without, with, out breath
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Nov.04.2007
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vertical line Invest in a white wolf? If U wear thighs, U can bring em on a passenger plane in the cabin for free and shit! As long as they don't nibble on the other passengers off ource. And U probably never read the phantom and I am on my way to bed. G`night (or morning)
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Nov.09.2007
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There is only the timelessness of time

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Nov.09.2007
09:10PM EDT 
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vertical line ever expanding nowness.
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Nov.09.2007
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Quote: "ever expanding nowness."
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ahgnbohge

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Nov.10.2007
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vertical line Oh no!  Lehish`s done it this time! She has called upon Ahgnbohge! One of the ancients one! Run you fools!
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Nov.10.2007
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vertical line Thou, it might very well be am just stupid thou, who knows. Who knows... "whooosh"
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Nov.10.2007
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Quote: "Oh no!  Lehish`s done it this time! She has called upon Ahgnbohge! One of the ancients one! Run you fools! "
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hahahahahahahahaha

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Nov.10.2007
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Quote: " "whooosh" "
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:)

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Nov.12.2007
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vertical line Time waits for no one and no one waits for time. STONES.
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Apr.25.2009
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vertical line Considering the fact that humans made up the concept of time, basing it off of our own planet, would it be justifiable to say that time did not exist? Given that evolution is true, there couldn't have been a concept of time at the beginning of the universe, because there were no people to create the idea of time. If you really think about it, time is something that's pretty new, considering the idea that humans, with cognitive ability, only came into existence about 100,000 years ago. My question is, is this a valid idea, or has time just always existed? Everything we see is really what we make of it. Thus, throughout the universe, time really isn't a constant, because different planets have different days, years, etc. 
But in all that I've read about theories of the beginning of the universe, they're always centered around the beginning of time. There's always an age for everything, but, maybe, could time not exist? Could it be some sort of concept that we, as humans, cannot live without, like, for many of us, God? Or is it one of those things in the universe that have to exist, like gravity? Pretty much, my question is, is this a valid idea, or am I just some rambling idiot?

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Apr.25.2009
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vertical line No, you're not a rambling idiot, but you are confusing physical time with perceived (or social) time. The days, minutes etc that have been invented by various cultures (and often differed) are *measurements* of time. They did not invent time itself.
It makes no sense to say we could live without time. Without time the universe would not work.

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Apr.26.2009
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their is arguements for and against the aspect of time. dont forget time is a referance point. so time dont exist in the void of space. their is only nowness.

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Apr.26.2009
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vertical line How do you know whether time exists or not???
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Apr.26.2009
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its like god.

cant see it.

hence it dont exist.

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Apr.27.2009
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1- Time, like all else, is relevant. Only exist when compared to something else.  Einstein's space-time relevancy showed us - truth is also relevant.
2 -  Only one moment, only one place, only one thing - no time , no where, nothing
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Apr.27.2009
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hmmmm.

bound by time. i cant wait till i retire and am no longer bound by this stupid clock.

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Apr.27.2009
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Nothing nothing  nothing    gone!

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Apr.27.2009
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I blink, therefor I am!...er was?....will be?
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Apr.27.2009
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Quote: "Quote: "How do you know whether time exists or not???"
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I blink, therefor I am!...er was?....will be?
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lol ...funny joke

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