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Posted on Dec.09.2007 @ 07:13AM EDT by chontri
Like the relflection of the moon in a calm lake,
when it's gone, there is no trace left to the water.
Like the shadow of a bird that flies over a river,
when it's gone, no trace left to the river surface .
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
07:49AM EDT
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are they gone? |
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Reply from chontri
Dec.09.2007
08:14AM EDT
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Quote: "are they gone?"
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Answer your question yourself. |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
08:27AM EDT
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I see no lake, no moon and no reflection |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
08:37AM EDT
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That's probably because you don't know who you are, when you do, you could tell who it is that says I don't see / I see. But in order to see and hear, you need to learn to look and listen, otherwise you will continue to think that knowing gives rise to problems. |
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Reply from chontri
Dec.09.2007
08:41AM EDT
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Quote: "I see no lake, no moon and no reflection"
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Oh, you don't see any of them. So, wait until when you see them. |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
08:47AM EDT
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once I see them, they wont be gone |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:03AM EDT
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That's the after-image. |
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Reply from chontri
Dec.09.2007
09:07AM EDT
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Quote: "once I see them, they wont be gone"
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So, carry them with you as long as you'd like.
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
09:08AM EDT
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Chontri says they are gone
I either see them or don't see them
I never see them gone
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:15AM EDT
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You're 'like' glued to appearances looking away. |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
09:19AM EDT
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have you got a theory? |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
09:21AM EDT
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none |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:21AM EDT
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What theory are you looking for? |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:23AM EDT
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Because you already got one. |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:24AM EDT
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I must have the question right - you answer so fast. |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
09:26AM EDT
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are you maybe a scientist
they understand things |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:27AM EDT
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I'm gone. |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.09.2007
09:33AM EDT
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you left some traces |
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Reply from ______
Dec.09.2007
09:37AM EDT
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Keep 'em, they're all yours. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.09.2007
06:35PM EDT
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where are the traces then? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.09.2007
06:36PM EDT
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It's so nice to see your name, I'm comforted by it |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.09.2007
06:45PM EDT
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where have you been? something quiet wonderful you know...much gratitude... and so much beauty...I cannot help but to cry...but not during (so to speak).. but to the one who feeds me and who eats for me and who care for me... so ..but you know, right |
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Reply from El_Cid
Dec.09.2007
08:52PM EDT
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Know that all phenomena are like this. |
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Reply from El_Cid
Dec.09.2007
09:25PM EDT
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Quote: "Know that all phenomena are like this."
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...a beautiful reminder, thank you Chon Tri. |
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Reply from Snibbler
Dec.09.2007
10:10PM EDT
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Reply from Doreen
Dec.09.2007
11:32PM EDT
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Images appear, then go
Be aware of the moment, and let it go |
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Reply from boopoom
Dec.10.2007
12:38AM EDT
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: )
glad to hear from everyone here and out there ...... : )
love you
boopoom |
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
04:54AM EDT
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Well if you want, or even need to get pedantic and scientific about it (yoga is a science - the practice is an art), phenomena created by mind is illusion, ergo, things are not as they appear. Also, one (a mined) can't be aware of the moment and and threfore can't let it go, because a mind is incapable of awareness of the moment - beware the trickery of the mind. So, it's the mind (with its reflections and traces and memory tricks), which needs be let go, dropped. |
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
04:56AM EDT
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See how the mind works:
Well if you want, or even need to get pedantic and scientific about it (yoga is a science - the practice is an art), phenomena created by mind is illusion, ergo, things are not as they appear. Also, one (a mined mind minding) can't be aware of the moment and threfore can't let it go, because a mind is incapable of awareness of the moment - beware the trickery of the mind. So, it's the mind (with its reflections and traces and memory tricks), which needs be let go, dropped.
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
04:59AM EDT
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Pt 3:
Let go, dropped? |
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
05:04AM EDT
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Ripple 4:
easy meditation
not easily wakened after sleep
dizziness
crying spells
pleasure / pain along spine
pain in chest
visual aberrations
pressure in forehead
pressure in top of head
spasmodic breathing
feeling of energy
sounds inside head
respiration dangerously low
heat and cold in body
cold body, warm fontanella
feeling of pulsating leaf in pelvis, abdomen, head
sense of emptiness
irritability
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
05:10AM EDT
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And 5:
I am the Number 1 bestseller - like a virgin. |
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
05:31AM EDT
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Ladies and gentlemen: "the light". |
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Reply from El_Cid
Dec.10.2007
06:40AM EDT
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Quote: "See how the mind works:
Well if you want, or even need to get pedantic and scientific about it (yoga is a science - the practice is an art), phenomena created by mind is illusion, ergo, things are not as they appear. Also, one (a mined mind minding) can't be aware of the moment and threfore can't let it go, because a mind is incapable of awareness of the moment - beware the trickery of the mind. So, it's the mind (with its reflections and traces and memory tricks), which needs be let go, dropped.
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Separate from mind? Duality.
Nothing to let go, why hold it so tight? |
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Reply from chontri
Dec.10.2007
07:32AM EDT
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Quote: "where have you been? something quiet wonderful you know...much gratitude... and so much beauty...I cannot help but to cry...but not during (so to speak).. but to the one who feeds me and who eats for me and who care for me... so ..but you know, right"
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Hi, Ms Lynn,
Everything is already in you, whether it is the light or darkness. Just realize it. |
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
08:39AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "See how the mind works:
Well if you want, or even need to get pedantic and scientific about it (yoga is a science - the practice is an art), phenomena created by mind is illusion, ergo, things are not as they appear. Also, one (a mined mind minding) can't be aware of the moment and threfore can't let it go, because a mind is incapable of awareness of the moment - beware the trickery of the mind. So, it's the mind (with its reflections and traces and memory tricks), which needs be let go, dropped.
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Separate from mind? Duality.
Nothing to let go, why hold it so tight?"
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Separate from mind?
Hold illusion or emptiness so tight?
See Pt 3.
Reflections and shadows exist only in relation to light.
Moonlight is reflected light - moonlight on the surface of a lake is a mirror reflecting mirror.
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
08:41AM EDT
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Don't mind me, I only write this stuff; you read it or don't - please yourself. |
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Reply from ______
Dec.10.2007
09:09AM EDT
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Try this: sit and repeat your name aloud over and over for 2 hours. Or, sit and look at your reflection in a mirror while repeating your name aloud over and over for 2 hours. Yes, it has to be 2 hours. |
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Dec.10.2007
03:47PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "where have you been? something quiet wonderful you know...much gratitude... and so much beauty...I cannot help but to cry...but not during (so to speak).. but to the one who feeds me and who eats for me and who care for me... so ..but you know, right"
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Hi, Ms Lynn,
Everything is already in you, whether it is the light or darkness. Just realize it. "
......... laying the light pulsates and I feel filled...and it is wonderful and... though yes, I wonder how this going into and from might be... realize? do? |
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Dec.10.2007
03:48PM EDT
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Quote: "Ripple 4:
easy meditation
not easily wakened after sleep
dizziness
crying spells
pleasure / pain along spine
pain in chest
visual aberrations
pressure in forehead
pressure in top of head
spasmodic breathing
feeling of energy
sounds inside head
respiration dangerously low
heat and cold in body
cold body, warm fontanella
feeling of pulsating leaf in pelvis, abdomen, head
sense of emptiness
irritability
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wow are you the one who feeds me? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.10.2007
03:52PM EDT
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Oh ChonTri you cannot imangine... this so wonderful feeling and...how grateful it is..how I am fed..by who? and the sadness as it, this feeling seems to go...like breathing in the |
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Reply from Lionel
Dec.10.2007
07:18PM EDT
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...once the water evaporate what reflection then...? |
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Reply from chontri
Dec.10.2007
08:07PM EDT
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Quote: "Oh ChonTri you cannot imangine... this so wonderful feeling and...how grateful it is..how I am fed..by who? and the sadness as it, this feeling seems to go...like breathing in the"
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ChonTri is not a man of imagination. You sounded like a person who was starving and fed herself a piece of plain bread.
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Reply from chontri
Dec.10.2007
08:26PM EDT
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Quote: "...once the water evaporate what reflection then...?"
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Wait until when all of the water on the earth evaporated to the last drop, then you will see where the reflection will be.
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Dec.10.2007
11:06PM EDT
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Quote: "
Quote: "Oh ChonTri you cannot imangine... this so wonderful feeling and...how grateful it is..how I am fed..by who? and the sadness as it, this feeling seems to go...like breathing in the"
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ChonTri is not a man of imagination. You sounded like a person who was starving and fed herself a piece of plain bread.
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......... "you cannot imagine" is an expression of "AH"! like "oh,oh,oh!" but the grandson now asks for bread his mother has in the refrig but is not baked..so gave him wonton papers...which he loves instead...not hungry (though I tried to eat) was very thirsty instead. what are you talking with? |
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Dec.11.2007
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Quote: "Quote: "
Quote: "Oh ChonTri you cannot imangine... this so wonderful feeling and...how grateful it is..how I am fed..by who? and the sadness as it, this feeling seems to go...like breathing in the"
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ChonTri is not a man of imagination. You sounded like a person who was starving and fed herself a piece of plain bread.
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Nothing else. |
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Reply from gebhart099
Dec.11.2007
07:49AM EDT
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The lake reflects things as they are. When the moon shines, it reflects that. When the moon is gone, the lake does not cling to the image of the moon. |
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Dec.11.2007
08:47AM EDT
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Quote: "The lake reflects things as they are. When the moon shines, it reflects that. When the moon is gone, the lake does not cling to the image of the moon."
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The lake must be absolutely calm in order to reflect things as they are. The more agitated the lake, the more distorted the reflections will be. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.11.2007
08:49AM EDT
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One is the moon in the sunlight. |
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Dec.11.2007
09:40AM EDT
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Inner
Being outer sky stars
Birth, and orbits die clouds
As forms, and then
They cry weather storms;
Who windy dry which I spy
In out my eye, 'tis not me
It isn't I, no not one thing
To blemish dye this perfect
Sky
Symmetry
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Dec.11.2007
04:32PM EDT
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Quote: "
Quote: "The lake reflects things as they are. When the moon shines, it reflects that. When the moon is gone, the lake does not cling to the image of the moon."
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The lake must be absolutely calm in order to reflect things as they are. The more agitated the lake, the more distorted the reflections will be.
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It is exactly when your mind converts pure awareness into concepts like moon, lake and reflection that you introduce distortion into your experience
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.11.2007
04:43PM EDT
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but what if the experience is of water, moon,...? what would you say then? light |
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Reply from -----0
Dec.11.2007
04:51PM EDT
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I would not say much more than splash
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Reply from gebhart099
Dec.12.2007
07:37AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "
Quote: "The lake reflects things as they are. When the moon shines, it reflects that. When the moon is gone, the lake does not cling to the image of the moon."
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The lake must be absolutely calm in order to reflect things as they are. The more agitated the lake, the more distorted the reflections will be.
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It is exactly when your mind converts pure awareness into concepts like moon, lake and reflection that you introduce distortion into your experience
"Exactly. We think of reality in terms of concepts, but then our concepts become a barrier to touching reality directly. The river is not bothered by the shadow. It neither rejects it, nor clings to it.
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Reply from ______
Dec.12.2007
01:08PM EDT
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The dentist says, "I'm sorry miss but I am going to have to extract all your wisdom teeth." "Oh no!" she exclaims, "I'd rather have a baby!" "Well", says the dentist, "Make up your mind so I can adjust the chair."
Mind-touching reality is another idea. Awareness is not an idea. Mind is stupid; no-mind is intelligent. Mind is smoke; no-mind is fire. Mind is time; no-mind is reality. Becoming is ignorant; being is enlightened. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.12.2007
02:27PM EDT
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hahaha what ? hahaha |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.13.2007
11:18AM EDT
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the moons reflection does not disturb the water.. this won'tI |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Dec.13.2007
11:19AM EDT
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will I find all the moons reflection there? |
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Reply from gebhart099
Dec.15.2007
09:36AM EDT
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Quote: "The dentist says, "I'm sorry miss but I am going to have to extract all your wisdom teeth." "Oh no!" she exclaims, "I'd rather have a baby!" "Well", says the dentist, "Make up your mind so I can adjust the chair."
Mind-touching reality is another idea. Awareness is not an idea. Mind is stupid; no-mind is intelligent. Mind is smoke; no-mind is fire. Mind is time; no-mind is reality. Becoming is ignorant; being is enlightened. "
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Ideas are necessary for our day to day lives. Awareness is the experience of pure existence. More ideas. Words and ideas can help us to approach reality, but they are not the reality itself. How does the saying go? The Dao that can be spoken of is not the true Dao.... |
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Reply from ______
Dec.16.2007
09:34AM EDT
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Well I'm not sorry for the limitations of the writtenly wordy words and soundies. But, awareness is, well, y'know, awareneess. No approaches, no towards, no leavings, no going back tos, no maybes, maybe nots. Well, maybe being still and not slip sliding away, and glimpses in the moments of truth, maybe not. And knowledge is a revolution - it can help and it can hinder. Because existence is neither pure nor impure, there's not a thing hidden in an open hand.....ha ha ha Bless ya! |
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Reply from gebhart099
Dec.20.2007
08:30AM EDT
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Quote: "Well I'm not sorry for the limitations of the writtenly wordy words and soundies. But, awareness is, well, y'know, awareneess. No approaches, no towards, no leavings, no going back tos, no maybes, maybe nots. Well, maybe being still and not slip sliding away, and glimpses in the moments of truth, maybe not. And knowledge is a revolution - it can help and it can hinder. Because existence is neither pure nor impure, there's not a thing hidden in an open hand.....ha ha ha Bless ya!"
......... All existence can be called pure existence, for lack of a better term. It is our words and concepts that dilute, or form a barrier to, our touching pure experience. "No dependence on words and scriptures, direct pointing at the mind..." |
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Reply from ______
Dec.20.2007
09:29AM EDT
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You can't touch this: I am awareness. |
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Reply from asheera
Dec.21.2007
09:03AM EDT
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he he !!
Would love to help with problem, but you do not exist.
Would love to help with problem, but I do not exist.
No problem. It too does not exist. |
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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.21.2007
09:07AM EDT
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spell "purple", or just say it first, then spell... it |
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Reply from lehish
Dec.21.2007
05:22PM EDT
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Quote: "
he he !!
Would love to help with problem, but you do not exist.
Would love to help with problem, but I do not exist.
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is ok. it won't last
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Reply from asheera
Dec.22.2007
07:20AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "
he he !!
Would love to help with problem, but you do not exist.
Would love to help with problem, but I do not exist.
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