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vertical line Posted on Dec.26.2007 @ 05:21AM EDT by asheera

Please listen to Chontri.  He is the Master of your Zendo, and he is most deserving of your attention and humility.  He is post-satori, and he is trying to help you to attain understanding too.

Many of you are well read, but that will only serve as a starting point.  The things that Chontri says are things you can meditate on.  Only the experience of meditation can further you along the way.

I know of two others from here who are post-satori also, and we agree that Chontri is a Master.  Only those who have understanding can see it in others.  But we rarely come here, or post here.  We find it futile, as we generally only get ridicule for our trouble.  But Chontri does not give up so easily.

There is a part of you that does not want to succeed, because to succeed is to lose everything.  Look for the deeper meanings in Chontri's posts, through meditation, and hopefully he will help you to overcome the hold your ego has on you, and help you to attain understanding.  The word satori means, in Japanese, 'Understanding'.


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asheera, did read this post?
 

Posted on Dec.12.2007 @ 06:41AM EDT by chontri

There is the one,

If someone comes to him with anger, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will talk together be in peace.

If someone comes to him with greed, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will share together in peace.

If someone comes to him with ignorance, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will live together in peace.

If someone comes to him with light or enlightenment, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will live together in harmony.

If someone comes to him with darkness or delusion, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will live together in peace.

If someone comes to him with knowledge or experience, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will live together in peace.

If someone comes to him with love or hate, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will be together in peace..

If someone comes to him with dirt or trash, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will be clean and clear together.

If someone comes to him with a blue sky, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and him will walk together on the road right in front of them.


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Dec.26.2007
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?

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Dec.26.2007
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and say nothing negative about the in-laws
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Dec.26.2007
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vertical line and say always positive about the out-laws  :)
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Dec.26.2007
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?

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Dec.26.2007
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so what were asking?

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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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Dec.26.2007
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vertical line I wondered whos eye saw with, if we wore one pair of glasses? and whos words were used.. I wondered why it was sooooo much like that what I had just read not long ago... I wondered if included self in "we" why "we" gave up and what is futile?what ridicule for whos trouble? I wonder !
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Dec.26.2007
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Dec.26.2007
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Ms Asheera,

You missed your words here.  This forum is not a Zendo at all.  It is just a website page that Mr Alan created and offered to anyone who'd like to come to do some conversations with friends who get the same interest.  ChonTri is one of those people.  He doesn't have any intention to do anything else.  As he said several times: Here no one is teacher or master or guru...no one is pupil or student or follower...at all. 

If you or anyone else would like to find someone and make him or her as a Master, it's up to you all.  ChonTri has nothing to do with it.  As he read on this thread he saw someone who should qualify for that position because he knows what is the qualification for a Master:  "Masters don't get hurt by answers to posts," he said.

ChonTri is not a tree or a stone, therefore, when someone posts his or her words, he would read them and answer them if he'd like.  Sometimes, some of his words sound strong and might hurt someone but he might not know.   When saw someone got hurt and pain, he might feel the same.

By the way, he hope that there will be no one trying to the same thing like this to him.

Take care,

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Dec.26.2007
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so what were asking?

Quote: "Quote: "

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

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Dec.26.2007
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Quote: "Masters don't get hurt by answers to their posts"
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Mr -----0,

With those words of yours, you qualify for the position of Master of the Zendo, and they will make you Master of the Zendo very soon.

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Reply from Snibbler
Dec.27.2007
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I rather say we are all masters and students here.
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vertical line Oh bloody nora - it's all so clear now. It's like looking at uselesa munchbunch bunch of bunchers discussing who wants to be whos next meal - you want to be food? Ok, you're already food. And, wow, excuser me..."post-satori" post-asheera, post-posters, post-posting, post-zenguide - good grief, it's like listening to a flock of greedy rumours slavering about which muppet isn't enlightened.
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so what were asking?

Quote: "Quote: "

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

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bright light... I see a bright light....and you mention scanning as I vaguely recall something of a conversation of how I did not have one.. just yesterday..or something of that nature..but I have a marker on the last page I read and can find the words if you like and can type them out. this will have to wait I'm afraid, I'll be ?away for a bit... end of year sesshin and jolly making and all   :) see you soon

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vertical line my cousin dies yesterday.. in the night I look out in the pain and wonder why so much pain... it made no sense to feel so much..or at all... and then the phone rings...I place my hands into soft fists and feel the movement between and the calmness through the body... close my mouth and even more so... anyway...
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Dec.28.2007
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vertical line Inspector Midgets voice came trough the line.

-"We need you`re help Lynnoh, this is a job for you`re detective skills!
Lynnoh did not answer at first, she calmly took a deep inhale of the Cuban cigar she got from Tony axe.

A nervous voice in the other end.
-"Ms. Lynnoh? Are you there?"

Lynnoh exhaled a deep puff of smoke as she anwered.
-"Ok, but it will cost ya."

-"Listen, I got the mayor all over my ass, and I can`t afford to pay you more than the usual hour fee plus
expenses. And after the clean up on the Manhattan incident our black budget is as good as empty and.."

Lynnoh took a new deep puff of the cigar, crushed it in the ashtray as she interrupted the police chief.
-"Listen you overfeed piece of swine. I know what you guys are really pulling in each month at the down town district. I am hanging up now. And if I ever hear from you again, it is either because you`ve decided to triple the pay, or because you have decided to commit suicide and want to let me in on the good news!
U fu*king insult me you piece of shit, it`s about time the mayor elect someone competent for you`re position anyway!"

And with that she hung up.

Calmly she leaned over to the bottom drawer, and pulled out a fresh bottle of Jack Daniels bourbon.
Calmly she fished a glass from the shelf, and pured herself a drink as she waited. Would not take long
now, she thought to herself. A minute maybe, no more than two.

She picked up the cigar from the ashtray, and lit it again.

And here the writer enters the story with news about this story is a rather poor continuance of the above posting and an unlikely unfolding of events as they really unfolded. Thou, it might very well be exact, might very well be. Who knows.

Anyhow, the writer is tired of writing this nonsense and will let it be up to the reader to decide that the continuance of this story will let Lynnoh be waiting impatiently by the phone, growing more and more nervous, before regretting being so mean to Inspector Widget, whom incidentally has changed name during this story. Just to end up begging for the job for half salary before being turned down because someone else got the job.

Anyway, this writer takes no responsibility for any deep meanings, hidden symbols nor lack of sympathy as not mistaken for emphathy, which basically is a word.
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vertical line if [someone comes to him] with no elephants, no horses, no young men or women of rank, no silver or gold, he gives him some, and helps him until he can establish a state [of his own]

But if someone comes to him simply out of love, not wanting any favour, then the rich man feels attracted to him. Prahlada had this unselfish love, this pure love for God without any worldly end."

If someone comes to him as a friend, he is accepted as a friend, and if another person comes as a foe, he too is accepted. He chooses nothing; he rejects nothing. NEXTLINE To Krishna no one is his friend and no one is his enemy. Time decides; circumstances create both friends and foes. And Krishna has no grievance against anybody.

Hmmm.. can`t find anything on Roshi thou? But did find my hero Osho:)
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so what were asking?

Quote: "Quote: "

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

"
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Ms Lynn,

"
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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

"
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bright light... I see a bright light....and you mention scanning as I vaguely recall something of a conversation of how I did not have one.. just yesterday..or something of that nature..but I have a marker on the last page I read and can find the words if you like and can type them out. this will have to wait I'm afraid, I'll be ?away for a bit... end of year sesshin and jolly making and all   :) see you soon

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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri prefers it scanned.

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Quote: "Inspector Midgets voice came trough the line.

-"We need you`re help Lynnoh, this is a job for you`re detective skills!
Lynnoh did not answer at first, she calmly took a deep inhale of the Cuban cigar she got from Tony axe.

A nervous voice in the other end.
-"Ms. Lynnoh? Are you there?"

Lynnoh exhaled a deep puff of smoke as she anwered.
-"Ok, but it will cost ya."

-"Listen, I got the mayor all over my ass, and I can`t afford to pay you more than the usual hour fee plus
expenses. And after the clean up on the Manhattan incident our black budget is as good as empty and.."

Lynnoh took a new deep puff of the cigar, crushed it in the ashtray as she interrupted the police chief.
-"Listen you overfeed piece of swine. I know what you guys are really pulling in each month at the down town district. I am hanging up now. And if I ever hear from you again, it is either because you`ve decided to triple the pay, or because you have decided to commit suicide and want to let me in on the good news!
U fu*king insult me you piece of shit, it`s about time the mayor elect someone competent for you`re position anyway!"

And with that she hung up.

Calmly she leaned over to the bottom drawer, and pulled out a fresh bottle of Jack Daniels bourbon.
Calmly she fished a glass from the shelf, and pured herself a drink as she waited. Would not take long
now, she thought to herself. A minute maybe, no more than two.

She picked up the cigar from the ashtray, and lit it again.

And here the writer enters the story with news about this story is a rather poor continuance of the above posting and an unlikely unfolding of events as they really unfolded. Thou, it might very well be exact, might very well be. Who knows.

Anyhow, the writer is tired of writing this nonsense and will let it be up to the reader to decide that the continuance of this story will let Lynnoh be waiting impatiently by the phone, growing more and more nervous, before regretting being so mean to Inspector Widget, whom incidentally has changed name during this story. Just to end up begging for the job for half salary before being turned down because someone else got the job.

Anyway, this writer takes no responsibility for any deep meanings, hidden symbols nor lack of sympathy as not mistaken for emphathy, which basically is a word.
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Mr Snibbler,

Why are you so anxious like that?

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alirighty then.

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-"We need you`re help Lynnoh, this is a job for you`re detective skills!
Lynnoh did not answer at first, she calmly took a deep inhale of the Cuban cigar she got from Tony axe.

A nervous voice in the other end.
-"Ms. Lynnoh? Are you there?"

Lynnoh exhaled a deep puff of smoke as she anwered.
-"Ok, but it will cost ya."

-"Listen, I got the mayor all over my ass, and I can`t afford to pay you more than the usual hour fee plus
expenses. And after the clean up on the Manhattan incident our black budget is as good as empty and.."

Lynnoh took a new deep puff of the cigar, crushed it in the ashtray as she interrupted the police chief.
-"Listen you overfeed piece of swine. I know what you guys are really pulling in each month at the down town district. I am hanging up now. And if I ever hear from you again, it is either because you`ve decided to triple the pay, or because you have decided to commit suicide and want to let me in on the good news!
U fu*king insult me you piece of shit, it`s about time the mayor elect someone competent for you`re position anyway!"

And with that she hung up.

Calmly she leaned over to the bottom drawer, and pulled out a fresh bottle of Jack Daniels bourbon.
Calmly she fished a glass from the shelf, and pured herself a drink as she waited. Would not take long
now, she thought to herself. A minute maybe, no more than two.

She picked up the cigar from the ashtray, and lit it again.

And here the writer enters the story with news about this story is a rather poor continuance of the above posting and an unlikely unfolding of events as they really unfolded. Thou, it might very well be exact, might very well be. Who knows.

Anyhow, the writer is tired of writing this nonsense and will let it be up to the reader to decide that the continuance of this story will let Lynnoh be waiting impatiently by the phone, growing more and more nervous, before regretting being so mean to Inspector Widget, whom incidentally has changed name during this story. Just to end up begging for the job for half salary before being turned down because someone else got the job.

Anyway, this writer takes no responsibility for any deep meanings, hidden symbols nor lack of sympathy as not mistaken for emphathy, which basically is a word.
"
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Mr Snibbler,

Why are you so anxious like that?

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Have you read that post?:) Guess I am afraid of ending up playing the role of demon if I am not careful.

(Lynnoh. anyone told you that U are beautiful lately!?:)

It kinda does not matter. We all inspire and hopefully stir each others up. Just don`t want to create a bad mood on this forum.



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Have you read that post?:) Guess I am afraid of ending up playing the role of demon if I am not careful.

(Lynnoh. anyone told you that U are beautiful lately!?:)

It kinda does not matter. We all inspire and hopefully stir each others up. Just don`t want to create a bad mood on this forum.

Sharing. Nice, Inspiring . Blessings, Brother Letting Everyone Read

article is a good merit performed.

With Metta

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
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Have you read that post?:) Guess I am afraid of ending up playing the role of demon if I am not careful.

(Lynnoh. anyone told you that U are beautiful lately!?:)

It kinda does not matter. We all inspire and hopefully stir each others up. Just don`t want to create a bad mood on this forum.

Sharing. Nice, Inspiring . Blessings, Brother Letting Everyone Read

article is a good merit performed.

With Metta

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why?

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
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Quote: "if [someone comes to him] with no elephants, no horses, no young men or women of rank, no silver or gold, he gives him some, and helps him until he can establish a state [of his own]

But if someone comes to him simply out of love, not wanting any favour, then the rich man feels attracted to him. Prahlada had this unselfish love, this pure love for God without any worldly end."

If someone comes to him as a friend, he is accepted as a friend, and if another person comes as a foe, he too is accepted. He chooses nothing; he rejects nothing. NEXTLINE To Krishna no one is his friend and no one is his enemy. Time decides; circumstances create both friends and foes. And Krishna has no grievance against anybody.

Hmmm.. can`t find anything on Roshi thou? But did find my hero Osho:)
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I don't know about heros...but WOW...biggest boldest bright light right into the forehead like a stream...but this body felt  sick.....   Osho book on tea, but not now

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
01:42AM EDT 
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so what were asking?

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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

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bright light... I see a bright light....and you mention scanning as I vaguely recall something of a conversation of how I did not have one.. just yesterday..or something of that nature..but I have a marker on the last page I read and can find the words if you like and can type them out. this will have to wait I'm afraid, I'll be ?away for a bit... end of year sesshin and jolly making and all   :) see you soon

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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri prefers it scanned.

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picture,picture, picture....bubbles...picture? picture? picture.....

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
01:46AM EDT 
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Quote: "Inspector Midgets voice came trough the line.

-"We need you`re help Lynnoh, this is a job for you`re detective skills!
Lynnoh did not answer at first, she calmly took a deep inhale of the Cuban cigar she got from Tony axe.

A nervous voice in the other end.
-"Ms. Lynnoh? Are you there?"

Lynnoh exhaled a deep puff of smoke as she anwered.
-"Ok, but it will cost ya."

-"Listen, I got the mayor all over my ass, and I can`t afford to pay you more than the usual hour fee plus
expenses. And after the clean up on the Manhattan incident our black budget is as good as empty and.."

Lynnoh took a new deep puff of the cigar, crushed it in the ashtray as she interrupted the police chief.
-"Listen you overfeed piece of swine. I know what you guys are really pulling in each month at the down town district. I am hanging up now. And if I ever hear from you again, it is either because you`ve decided to triple the pay, or because you have decided to commit suicide and want to let me in on the good news!
U fu*king insult me you piece of shit, it`s about time the mayor elect someone competent for you`re position anyway!"

And with that she hung up.

Calmly she leaned over to the bottom drawer, and pulled out a fresh bottle of Jack Daniels bourbon.
Calmly she fished a glass from the shelf, and pured herself a drink as she waited. Would not take long
now, she thought to herself. A minute maybe, no more than two.

She picked up the cigar from the ashtray, and lit it again.

And here the writer enters the story with news about this story is a rather poor continuance of the above posting and an unlikely unfolding of events as they really unfolded. Thou, it might very well be exact, might very well be. Who knows.

Anyhow, the writer is tired of writing this nonsense and will let it be up to the reader to decide that the continuance of this story will let Lynnoh be waiting impatiently by the phone, growing more and more nervous, before regretting being so mean to Inspector Widget, whom incidentally has changed name during this story. Just to end up begging for the job for half salary before being turned down because someone else got the job.

Anyway, this writer takes no responsibility for any deep meanings, hidden symbols nor lack of sympathy as not mistaken for emphathy, which basically is a word.
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Mr Snibbler,

Why are you so anxious like that?

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Have you read that post?:) Guess I am afraid of ending up playing the role of demon if I am not careful.

(Lynnoh. anyone told you that U are beautiful lately!?:)

It kinda does not matter. We all inspire and hopefully stir each others up. Just don`t want to create a bad mood on this forum.



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Have you read that post?:) Guess I am afraid of ending up playing the role of demon if I am not careful.

(Lynnoh. anyone told you that U are beautiful lately!?:)

It kinda does not matter. We all inspire and hopefully stir each others up. Just don`t want to create a bad mood on this forum.



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yes, this is stiring?...? not knowing who anyone is..or shall say..anyone is ? quiet something to get used to... absolutely one gets confused when one starts to like and dislike..or even like and like more...or even like and love

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Reply from kelvintan
Jan.02.2008
02:53AM EDT 
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Have you read that post?:) Guess I am afraid of ending up playing the role of demon if I am not careful.

(Lynnoh. anyone told you that U are beautiful lately!?:)

It kinda does not matter. We all inspire and hopefully stir each others up. Just don`t want to create a bad mood on this forum.

Sharing. Nice, Inspiring . Blessings, Brother Letting Everyone Read

article is a good merit performed.

With Metta

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why?

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Lynn, Y Not Now One Have

to show gratitude which is the best attitude, when someone cares and shares.

Have A Great Day

With Metta

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Reply from chontri
Jan.02.2008
07:04AM EDT 
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so what were asking?

Quote: "Quote: "

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

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bright light... I see a bright light....and you mention scanning as I vaguely recall something of a conversation of how I did not have one.. just yesterday..or something of that nature..but I have a marker on the last page I read and can find the words if you like and can type them out. this will have to wait I'm afraid, I'll be ?away for a bit... end of year sesshin and jolly making and all   :) see you soon

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Ms Lynn,

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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri prefers it scanned.

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picture,picture, picture....bubbles...picture? picture? picture.....

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Ms Lynn,

It seems that what ChonTri has resquested is too hard to do for you.  If so, just forget the whole story.

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Ms Lynn,

It seems that what ChonTri has resquested is too hard to do for you.  If so, just forget the whole story.

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
08:09AM EDT 
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so what were asking?

Quote: "Quote: "

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

"
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Ms Lynn,

"
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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

"
.........

bright light... I see a bright light....and you mention scanning as I vaguely recall something of a conversation of how I did not have one.. just yesterday..or something of that nature..but I have a marker on the last page I read and can find the words if you like and can type them out. this will have to wait I'm afraid, I'll be ?away for a bit... end of year sesshin and jolly making and all   :) see you soon

"
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Ms Lynn,

"
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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri prefers it scanned.

"
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"
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picture,picture, picture....bubbles...picture? picture? picture.....

"
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Ms Lynn,

It seems that what ChonTri has resquested is too hard to do for you.  If so, just forget the whole story.

"
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Ms Lynn,

It seems that what ChonTri has resquested is too hard to do for you.  If so, just forget the whole story.

"
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if the story was is words, I did not read or hear it. If the story was all the pictures... you are right I cannot seem to recall it, but I remember it was fast and many and bubbles, like looking through layers or something..no, can't put to words..if this was too hard, then I suppose so... ? it's okay

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
08:09AM EDT 
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so what were asking?

Quote: "Quote: "

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

I read something similiar this morning..in the book, "Not Always So".. by Suzuki Roshi..did you read it?

what is your trouble? you are we right?"
 ...

"
.........
Ms Lynn,

"
.........
Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to see what are the words you say you read them this morning from the book, "Not Always So" by Suzuki.  Could you scan the pages that holds those words and post them so people and ChonTri can read them?  This is the first time for him to hear the title of the book as you mentioned. 

Or any of you have the book can help too.

"
.........

bright light... I see a bright light....and you mention scanning as I vaguely recall something of a conversation of how I did not have one.. just yesterday..or something of that nature..but I have a marker on the last page I read and can find the words if you like and can type them out. this will have to wait I'm afraid, I'll be ?away for a bit... end of year sesshin and jolly making and all   :) see you soon

"
.........
Ms Lynn,

"
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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri prefers it scanned.

"
.........

"
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picture,picture, picture....bubbles...picture? picture? picture.....

"
.........
Ms Lynn,

It seems that what ChonTri has resquested is too hard to do for you.  If so, just forget the whole story.

"
.........
Ms Lynn,

It seems that what ChonTri has resquested is too hard to do for you.  If so, just forget the whole story.

"
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"
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if the story was is words, I did not read or hear it. If the story was all the pictures... you are right I cannot seem to recall it, but I remember it was fast and many and bubbles, like looking through layers or something..no, can't put to words..if this was too hard, then I suppose so... ? it's okay

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Jan.02.2008
01:10PM EDT 
vertical line There's been a change of plan - you are now the master of the zendo - whatever and wherever, sheesh and you don't know what I'm talking about?????
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Jan.04.2008
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With those words of yours, you qualify for the position of Master of the Zendo, and they will make you Master of the Zendo very soon.

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Thanks, ChonTri, but I don't qualify either, because I am flattered by your words.

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Jan.04.2008
05:48PM EDT 
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Mr -----0,

With those words of yours, you qualify for the position of Master of the Zendo, and they will make you Master of the Zendo very soon.

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Thanks, ChonTri, but I don't qualify either, because I am flattered by your words.

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When the words were put down there, they were just used to indicate the qualification that lies in your own words, and a prediction that you might be eclected to fill that position -  without any intention to flatter you at all. Unfortunately, the prediction seems failed so far. Don't feel bad.

Now you read them and say that you do not qualify but you feel fine because you are flattered by those words.  That's good.  Just keep feeling like that as long as you'd like.

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Reply from -----0
Jan.05.2008
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Reply from chontri
Jan.05.2008
06:43AM EDT 
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So, take your knucklehead with you and run around the world.
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Jan.05.2008
07:00AM EDT 
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Jan.05.2008
07:08AM EDT 
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To show the world your knucklehead gives you more pleasure. 
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Jan.05.2008
10:42AM EDT 
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Jan.05.2008
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Oh, that was just for your information. The world does not care for knuckleheads, it goes for masters.

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Jan.05.2008
12:10PM EDT 
vertical line Masters need knuckleheads like you and Americans living the global nightmare.
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Reply from ______
Jan.06.2008
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vertical line Declare your truth and be done with it - cultivate the virtue of uselessness. And don't listen to the rumour mongers who spread the lie that you are 'pre-satori', that you should listen to this, that and the other in order to move from the 'starting point', to become. Whatever that is, it isn't meditation. There is no becoming. To believe so is like dressing a naked body in layers of teflon which have become transformed into velcro. Only you know how to unzip them.
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Jan.06.2008
03:01PM EDT 
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That's what you think and it's right to you.
 
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Jan.07.2008
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Jan.07.2008
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Reply from chontri
Jan.07.2008
06:13PM EDT 
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Oh, that was just for your information. The world does not care for knuckleheads, it goes for masters.

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Jan.07.2008
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