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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: ABOUT SUNYATA
vertical line Posted on Dec.28.2007 @ 07:04PM EDT by chontri
Like using water to quench fire burning,
The emptiness of dharmas has been talked about by wise men,
In order to help people to stop raising views and holding on them,
To get themselves liberated and free.
If one now raises and holds his views of emptiness,
then he cannot be taught, because he entirely misunderstood of it,
Unless, he himself must empty his views of emptiness first

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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.28.2007
07:36PM EDT 
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vertical line Don't make me have to get out my book.
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Dec.28.2007
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vertical line Quote: "Don't make me have to get out my book. "
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Don't worry, Mr Woodsman.
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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.28.2007
08:57PM EDT 
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vertical line I'm not, got it right here.
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Dec.28.2007
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Quote: "I'm not, got it right here. "
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alrighty then.

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Reply from shayne
Dec.28.2007
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vertical line my minds eye ( attention ) is not focused on emptiness. it is free to view what i like.
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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.28.2007
10:13PM EDT 
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vertical line " At a later stage in spiritual development, one moves beyond the self being aware of itself
into experiencing that transcends the separation between experiencer and experienced, the knower and the known."  Journeys Into Emptiness - Robert Jingen Gunn
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Dec.28.2007
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Quote: "" At a later stage in spiritual development, one moves beyond the self being aware of itself
into experiencing that transcends the separation between experiencer and experienced, the knower and the known."  Journeys Into Emptiness - Robert Jingen Gunn
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nah...you should be aware of what minds eye does.

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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.28.2007
10:42PM EDT 
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vertical line mind's eye don't do, ja?

oh crap, where's my book?


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Dec.28.2007
10:45PM EDT 
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Quote: "mind's eye don't do, ja?

oh crap, where's my book?


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goof.

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Reply from kelvintan
Dec.28.2007
10:52PM EDT 
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The Diamond Sutra says: "The Past, present and future mind cannot be found."

Emptiness  is Complete Happiness Once No Thoughts Rises In

MIND

With Metta

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Reply from Woodsman
Dec.28.2007
10:56PM EDT 
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vertical line let's see. i walked from the den to the living room, the kitchen, outside to the garage.

Oh Shit, forgot to feed the rabbits! thanks! 
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Dec.28.2007
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Quote: "mind's eye don't do, ja?

oh crap, where's my book?


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goof.

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Got Ocean Of Feelings

With Ocean Of Feelings

Without Ocean Of Feelings

Have A Great Weekend

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Dec.28.2007
11:58PM EDT 
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vertical line wasn't in the rabbit hutch or in the shed

(i know where the book is but i'm too lazy to go get it)

i was in the bathroom, for a pee, not there, that would be gross

was making a sign that reads 'come right in', but didn't need any book for that, just nice crisp lettering and the wood burning tool

i was at the hospital, and in the car, but that was a book on 'flow' i was reading, like, 2 pages cuz i was so busy with poop and blood and mucus

was in the bedroom, but i don't read in there, just sleep, just sleep

so, I don't know.

zzzzzzzz.......zzzzzzzzzzz..........zzzzzzzzzz...............zzzzzzzzz ( 4 breaths/min) without snoring)
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Dec.29.2007
08:22PM EDT 
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zzzzzzzz.......zzzzzzzzzzz..........zzzzzzzzzz...............zzzzzzzzz ( 4 breaths/min) without snoring)

You didn't sleep at all.

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Dec.29.2007
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I didn't have to.
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Dec.29.2007
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I didn't have to.
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Pretender.
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Well the lights just went off, so, now I can sleep.
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Dec.29.2007
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Well the lights just went off, so, now I can sleep.
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Well the lights just went off, so, now I can sleep.
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even goofasses must sleep. hahaha.

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Dec.30.2007
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even goofasses must sleep. hahaha.

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no, I didn't turn them off, they just went off automatically, since we had guests over who sleep earlier.
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Jan.04.2008
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vertical line ...it is like the sound sleep...
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Jan.04.2008
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Quote: "...it is like the sound sleep..."
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because you were awake?

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Jan.06.2008
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because you were awake?

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...at that moment you are...what you are...

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Jan.06.2008
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vertical line before you say it, it is gone already
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Jan.06.2008
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Quote: "before you say it, it is gone already"
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Before you say it, it already there.
After you say it, it already there.

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Jan.06.2008
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Quote: "before you say it, it is gone already"
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Before you say it, it already there.
After you say it, it already there.

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Before you say it, it is nothing

After you say it, it is something

With Metta

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Jan.06.2008
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Quote: "before you say it, it is gone already"
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Before you say it, it already there.
After you say it, it already there.

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Before you say it, it is nothing

After you say it, it is something

With Metta

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When you say it, it is something.
When you don't say it, it's also something.
 
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Jan.06.2008
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Quote: "before you say it, it is gone already"
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Before you say it, it already there.
After you say it, it already there.

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Before you say it, it is nothing

After you say it, it is something

With Metta

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When you say it, it is something.
When you don't say it, it's also something.
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When you say it, it is something.
When you don't say it, it's also something.
 
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After saying it is something, nothing is real exists

Likewise, nothing is real exists, nothing unreal exists

With Metta

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Jan.06.2008
11:49AM EDT 
vertical line Knowledge about sunyata, whenevers, wherevers, somethings, nothings, whoevers, dos, don'ts, befores, afters, therefores, heres, theres and gone alreadys, isn't helping anyones either.
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Jan.06.2008
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Quote: "before you say it, it is gone already"
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Before you say it, it already there.
After you say it, it already there.

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Before you say it, it is nothing

After you say it, it is something

With Metta

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When you say it, it is something.
When you don't say it, it's also something.
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After saying it is something, nothing is real exists

Likewise, nothing is real exists, nothing unreal exists

With Metta

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Mr Kevintan,
ChonTri is hungry now, he got to go to the kitchen and get some food to eat.
 
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Jan.06.2008
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Quote: "Knowledge about sunyata, whenevers, wherevers, somethings, nothings, whoevers, dos, don'ts, befores, afters, therefores, heres, theres and gone alreadys, isn't helping anyones either. "
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Bro Rustic,

It helps the thinking mind to get rid of the false created self and ego.

Thank U for sharing

With Metta

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Jan.06.2008
12:32PM EDT 
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Mr Kevintan,
ChonTri is hungry now, he got to go to the kitchen and get some food to eat.

Allay your hunger

Goodnite to all.

With Metta

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Jan.06.2008
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vertical line That's what the thinking mind thinks.
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Jan.06.2008
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Mr Kevintan,
ChonTri is hungry now, he got to go to the kitchen and get some food to eat.

Allay your hunger

Goodnite to all.

With Metta

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Talk to you later.
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