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vertical line Posted on Dec.30.2007 @ 10:42PM EDT by kelvintan

To the named person concerned who brother died of cancer on 12thOct 08 and her father on 4th  December 08 on her fear of death.

Our journey in life is a spiritual one in a material world.

 

Nothing to fear if you carry on cultivating the virtue of

 

Giving your selfless service for the welfare of others.

 

 

Attachment to worldly life creates the delusion for the fear of Death.

 

Have purity of your mind and detachment from worldly things.

 

 

Keep on cultivating and constantly meditating on Death.

 

It is easier to acknowledge the Truth of Life & Death as One.

 

Mind, which is trained to see life with all its impermanence and

 

unsatisfactoriness, is not likely to cling on to illusion, just as

a drowning man

 

will cling on to anything, even a straw.

 

 

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The Buddha addresses the disciples and gave his final exhortation,

“Behold, O disciples, I exhort you.

Subject to change are all component things.

Strive on with diligence.”

 

(Vayadhamma samkhara, Appamadena sampadetha)

 

These were the last words of the Blessed One.


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Reply from kelvintan
Dec.31.2007
12:10AM EDT 
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Sorry, typo error on year. Should be 2007.

No Mindfulness

With Metta

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Reply from chontri
Dec.31.2007
06:05AM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

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Reply from ______
Dec.31.2007
10:20AM EDT 
vertical line Let me tell you something - the virtue of giving is crap - it can't be cultivated. And let me ask you something - do you know what courage is?
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Reply from kelvintan
Dec.31.2007
01:30PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

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Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

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Reply from kelvintan
Dec.31.2007
01:30PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

"
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Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

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Reply from chontri
Dec.31.2007
05:47PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

"
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"
.........

Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

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Don't mention it.

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Don't mention it.

Is this the New Year in Singapore?

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Reply from kelvintan
Dec.31.2007
07:51PM EDT 
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Yes.the 1st day of New Year 2008, just woke-up at 7.45am

Over at your end it should be:

Countdown to welcome 2008

Happy New Year To

One And All

Time to look forward

Resolution and Renunication

Individually from our Hearts

We are all one in Samsara

With Metta

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Reply from kelvintan
Dec.31.2007
08:11PM EDT 
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The courage to be a

Conqueror.

Having

Overcome

Nobody

Transcending

Remaining

Illumined

Cheerful Hour One Need To Revelry  In

GOODWILL TO ALL

With Metta

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Reply from chontri
Dec.31.2007
11:04PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

"
.........

"
.........

Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

"
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Originally, there were no Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter as we call now, but only the movement or change of things or energy in space.  Since human beings observed the movement or change, and marked it by naming it, therefore, now we have the four seasons recyling.  Consequently, we have something called New Year, as we have now.  Naming is distincting and vice versa.  Human beings are also the energy which is moving and changing non-stop.  Some poet once said something like this:

"The Spring of heaven and earth has just come now,
But it is already here in my heart's timelessness.
Since we love each other,
The flowers always blossom in the garden of my heart."

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Reply from shayne
Dec.31.2007
11:32PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

"
.........

"
.........

Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

"
.........
Originally, there were no Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter as we call now, but only the movement or change of things or energy in space.  Since human beings observed the movement or change, and marked it by naming it, therefore, now we have the four seasons recyling.  Consequently, we have something called New Year, as we have now.  Naming is distincting and vice versa.  Human beings are also the energy which is moving and changing non-stop.  Some poet once said something like this:

"The Spring of heaven and earth has just come now,
But it is already here in my heart's timelessness.
Since we love each other,
The flowers always blossom in the garden of my heart."

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grovey stuff. this goes along the lines of the naming of things. which words are used to express the NONVERBAL reality.

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Reply from shayne
Dec.31.2007
11:37PM EDT 
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Reply from ______
Jan.01.2008
10:20AM EDT 
vertical line No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass.
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Reply from ______
Jan.01.2008
11:07AM EDT 
vertical line A Buddhist monk burned himself alive to death near the holiest shrine in India on Friday. Apparently, he died in hospital from self-inflicted first degree burns where Guatama himself realised who he is. They say the monk had come to the end of his life in the land of the Buddha to get the ultimate freedom from life.

And Britney Spears drank too much alcohol and smashed a camera into a car, apparently - she returned to the scene later in order to retrieve her memory card.


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Reply from kelvintan
Jan.01.2008
12:16PM EDT 
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Quote: "A Buddhist monk burned himself alive to death near the holiest shrine in India on Friday. Apparently, he died in hospital from self-inflicted first degree burns where Guatama himself realised who he is. They say the monk had come to the end of his life in the land of the Buddha to get the ultimate freedom from life.

And Britney Spears drank too much alcohol and smashed a camera into a car, apparently - she returned to the scene later in order to retrieve her memory card.


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Reasons Unimaginable.Self-immolation Theory. In Coming to end of his life in the land of the Buddha to get the ultimate freedom from life.

???

With Metta

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Reply from shayne
Jan.01.2008
07:57PM EDT 
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........

ok.

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Reply from chontri
Jan.01.2008
08:44PM EDT 
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........

ok.

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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

If ChonTri'd cultivate something, he'd do.  If he wouldn't, he wouldn't.  Like he'd do to his rose plants.  Cultivating the rose plants is his love or virtue.

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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
01:17AM EDT 
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........

ok.

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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

If ChonTri'd cultivate something, he'd do.  If he wouldn't, he wouldn't.  Like he'd do to his rose plants.  Cultivating the rose plants is his love or virtue.

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mother seed?

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Jan.02.2008
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........


ok.

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Don't mention it - have it on me.
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Reply from ______
Jan.02.2008
01:14PM EDT 
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........


ok.


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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

If ChonTri'd cultivate something, he'd do.  If he wouldn't, he wouldn't.  Like he'd do to his rose plants.  Cultivating the rose plants is his love or virtue.

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I would never, ever, chontri a rose or something. And if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing that either. You cultivate rose plants then good for you - you cultivate rose plants not love or virtue.
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
03:11PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

"
.........

"
.........

Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

"
.........
Originally, there were no Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter as we call now, but only the movement or change of things or energy in space.  Since human beings observed the movement or change, and marked it by naming it, therefore, now we have the four seasons recyling.  Consequently, we have something called New Year, as we have now.  Naming is distincting and vice versa.  Human beings are also the energy which is moving and changing non-stop.  Some poet once said something like this:

"The Spring of heaven and earth has just come now,
But it is already here in my heart's timelessness.
Since we love each other,
The flowers always blossom in the garden of my heart."

"
.........
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.02.2008
03:12PM EDT 
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-What is death?
-Doesn't know.
-What is life?
-Doesn't know.

Who got to cry, just cry.
Who got to laugh, just laugh.

Like a yellow leaf
Leaving its branch,
Each and every of us
Will be leaving this world the same way.

who is the poet that feels it bloom?



Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.



Anyone who sits at the root
Will be seeing this truth.
And will laugh freely when his time comes.

"
.........

"
.........

Chontri,

Thank you for sharing and being a spiritual friend,

in helping  eliminate illusions coming  from your heart

to hearts.

Happy New Year 2008 from Singapore.

With Metta

"
.........
Originally, there were no Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter as we call now, but only the movement or change of things or energy in space.  Since human beings observed the movement or change, and marked it by naming it, therefore, now we have the four seasons recyling.  Consequently, we have something called New Year, as we have now.  Naming is distincting and vice versa.  Human beings are also the energy which is moving and changing non-stop.  Some poet once said something like this:

"The Spring of heaven and earth has just come now,
But it is already here in my heart's timelessness.
Since we love each other,
The flowers always blossom in the garden of my heart."

"
.........
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Jan.02.2008
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........


ok.


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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

"
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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

If ChonTri'd cultivate something, he'd do.  If he wouldn't, he wouldn't.  Like he'd do to his rose plants.  Cultivating the rose plants is his love or virtue.

"
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I would never, ever, chontri a rose or something. And if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing that either. You cultivate rose plants then good for you - you cultivate rose plants not love or virtue.
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Because you never ever plant or culitivate a rose or something, therefore, you don't have that kind of love or virtue.
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Jan.02.2008
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Jan.03.2008
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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

"
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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

If ChonTri'd cultivate something, he'd do.  If he wouldn't, he wouldn't.  Like he'd do to his rose plants.  Cultivating the rose plants is his love or virtue.

"
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I would never, ever, chontri a rose or something. And if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing that either. You cultivate rose plants then good for you - you cultivate rose plants not love or virtue.
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Because you never ever plant or culitivate a rose or something, therefore, you don't have that kind of love or virtue.
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I didn't write what you think I did, apparently. But you know that. But let me know what further information you require for your records.
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Jan.03.2008
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Quote: "No matter how much you try you won't cultivate that either. Unless you think time is grass. ".........



ok.



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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

"
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No matter how much you think about the food, if you don't eat the food, you won't be full. 

If ChonTri'd cultivate something, he'd do.  If he wouldn't, he wouldn't.  Like he'd do to his rose plants.  Cultivating the rose plants is his love or virtue.

"
.........

I would never, ever, chontri a rose or something. And if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing that either. You cultivate rose plants then good for you - you cultivate rose plants not love or virtue.
"
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Because you never ever plant or culitivate a rose or something, therefore, you don't have that kind of love or virtue.
"
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I didn't write what you think I did, apparently. But you know that. But let me know what further information you require for your records.
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So, what do you really mean with these words of your? "I would never, ever, chontri a rose or something. And if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing that either."?  Just make them clear.  
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Hello, has year 2007 gone or passed? Yes, of course it had, no doubt about it. It is history & surely it is the past!
Are we in year 2008? Yes, of course we are, no doubt about it. Yet 2008 is also full of past (or history such like yesterday) & future (to-morrow), right? So, what where when why & how are we? Are we in today which is also ticking away moment by moment?
Since the past cannot be found or achieved anymore nor the future which is yet to come can be found or achieved, where is the present moment which is ticking away everynow & then continueously? Can we possbily hold still the present moment? Can it possibly be no past no present & no future at all!? Well, whether there is past, present & future, nor no past no present & no future, perhaps you me & him keep on moving & changing continueously & foreverly. What is Life & death then? Perhaps the rare & wise old one who has his heart laughing almost had already hinted us a thing or two, he~he~he! 
Thanks!
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Jan.06.2008
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Jan.06.2008
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Hello, has year 2007 gone or passed? Yes, of course it had, no doubt about it. It is history & surely it is the past!
Are we in year 2008? Yes, of course we are, no doubt about it. Yet 2008 is also full of past (or history such like yesterday) & future (to-morrow), right? So, what where when why & how are we? Are we in today which is also ticking away moment by moment?
Since the past cannot be found or achieved anymore nor the future which is yet to come can be found or achieved, where is the present moment which is ticking away everynow & then continueously? Can we possbily hold still the present moment? Can it possibly be no past no present & no future at all!? Well, whether there is past, present & future, nor no past no present & no future, perhaps you me & him keep on moving & changing continueously & foreverly. What is Life & death then? Perhaps the rare & wise old one who has his heart laughing almost had already hinted us a thing or two, he~he~he! 
Thanks!

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Life's Illusion. One's Nothing. Everything-in  Life

 is Uncertain

With Metta 

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