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wandered in the mountain. When he was back just at the gate of the temple, the head monk asked him:
-Where have you been, Sir?
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: THE NIAGARA FALLS VISITED
vertical line Posted on Jan.01.2008 @ 09:18PM EDT by chontri
The sound is like thunders rolling through the air and never stops,
The mist is like white clouds continuously falling down like rain.
Thus is the Niagara Falls.

When one has not been there yet, earnestly he longs for.
Once he was there, nothing special at all.

The sound is like thunders rolling through the air and never stops,
The mist is like white clouds continuously falling down like rain.
Thus is the Niagara Falls.

08/22/2005


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Find the answer yourself. 
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Would you like to be there, at the Niagara Falls? 
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Would you like to be there, at the Niagara Falls? 
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No.
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Would you like to be there, at the Niagara Falls? 
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So, you don't want to find out what the sound is?
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Jan.01.2008
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vertical line Wait, might be free tickets or something U foolish man!
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Jan.01.2008
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vertical line Turn on the tv to one of those channels with fuzz on it (If you don't have cable). That's it.
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Reply from Woodsman
Jan.01.2008
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vertical line Or just read this...

Pssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh(oink)hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  ....

just the bold stuff
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Jan.01.2008
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vertical line Are we speaking metaphorically? Like always. hmmm... what could this sound here be?

Just answer the questions!
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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line there is something happening right before our eyes, but I know not what it is. but you seem to. tonight while driving I saw a rainbow...shining on the clouds..but no rain. at first I thought I saw one...then I saw two...but having realized I was seeing rainbow and recalled rainbow ways...i knew that the two was one..even though I could not see the top of this rainbow... only it's sides and i wonder... I never seen a rainbow without rain
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vertical line it might have been more, had I not worried about the son
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Quote: "Are we speaking metaphorically? Like always. hmmm... what could this sound here be?

Just answer the questions!
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Mr Woodsman,

Your question is too hard to answer.  Maybe you are the only one can answer it.

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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line listening to scraping ice off window, seeing the hammer hit the bell...  "crash" seeing the glass break while the hammer fell
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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line One does not need to go anywhere to hear the sound, of what is coming, to an end.
The sound takes away everything. The sound of absolution arises in all sound, but we feel it is permanent, and fixed, all of us who deny the sound as coming from one source.

We may find the source, or the source of sound may find us longing for unity, as in being united with all sound, motion, and we may become very quiet, even detached from the "noise" of permanence, control, conditional acceptance. We begin to step out of the delusion of what is created to last.
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Quote: "Are we speaking metaphorically? Like always. hmmm... what could this sound here be?

Just answer the questions!
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Doppler Shifting
(by Alan Smale)

Susan cruisin' down the freeway doing seventy-eight
        (go speed racing, go speed racing)
She just likes to drive fast, it's not that she's late
        (no tail-gating, no tail gating)
Goes over a hilltop and what a surprise
        (too late sister, you're in for it now)
Blue and red flashing lights right in front of her eyes
                        
Nee nee nee nee nee nee nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah
                        
Now Susan's standing by the side of her car
        (show me your licence, you're in big trouble)
Trucks blowing right by her but she's not going far
        (they're still cruisin', Susan's losin')
She's been caught by a speed trap, and now she can hear
        (here comes the physics, you're in for it now)
Sound of the Doppler Shift right in her ear

Eeeeeeeeeeeeee-owwwwwwwwww   

That's the Doppler Shift - you've heard it I know
Doppler Shift - first it's high then it's low
The good cop's gun shoots out only radar

And the beam bounces back off bad Susan's car
And assuming the policeman is standing in range
His gun tells him all about the frequency change
Then Susan's walking, walking
Her speed racing days are done

They're light years away, man, and that's pretty far
        (lightspeed's the limit, the big speed limit)
But there's plenty we can learn from the light of a star
        (split it with a prism, there's little lines in it)
By looking at the spectrum at the light that's glowing
        (wavelengths of emission, measured with precision)
Its Doppler Shift will tell us if it's coming or going
                        
Doo doo doo doo doo-ooo 

That's the Doppler Shift - you see it, it's true
Doppler Shift - to the red or the blue
                          
When a star is approaching and it's coming our way
Its spectrum seems bluer, won't you hear what I say
And when a star's retreating way out of range
And the scientist measures its frequency change
Well that's a redshift, redshift
If the star is moving away

By reading Doppler Shifts of all we see in the skies
        (clusters of galaxies, near and far)
We get the big picture and a big surprise
        (redshifts going, redshifts going)
The Universe is growing and expanding away
        (galaxies are speeding, speeding away)
But maybe gravity will shrink it back some day
                        
Owwwwwwwwwwwww-eeeeeeeeeee
                          
Doppler Shift - to the red or the blue
Doppler Shift - and our shift's overdue

Now blueshifts come and redshifts go
And that's pretty much everything you need to know
Now we're gonna pick up Susan and give her a ride
So you guys remember Doppler, and you drive to survive
And now we're shifting, shifting
And our Doppler song is done
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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line with high and low pitches all morning long, thought it was the neighbor upstairs.. and the daughter gets a ticket..., thinks the cop was wrong.... and an emails wanting the identity of a friend... with the name of "star" at the beginning not the end.
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Jan.02.2008
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"what are you talking about?"

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Quote:

You need to have a compassionate nature like that of a Buddha, speak words of Zen, listen to the sounds of Zen, carry out the work of Zen and have the mind of Zen

You must transform all sounds that come into yours ears into refined ones.That is, you must be able to turn insults hurled at you into compassionate sounds and transform slander into encouragement.

When you no longer take offence at harsh words of others or anything you consider unpleasant, you will be able to hear the words of Zen.

By Chinese Zen master Wu De

Sharing with metta.

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Jan.02.2008
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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line So, who "he", which tourist did visit The Niagara Falls? Was it chuntri? Tell us about it, post-The Niagara Falls. Or does he just know what "he" thinks, does, feels, ad infinitum. Or what exactly? Any ideas or none - don't worry about The Niagara Falls.
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Jan.02.2008
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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line "clap"   ccccllllloooosssseeeerrrrr    "CLAP"  ccccccllllooooo  "Chin"  ssssseeeeerrrr... crazy when that happens....bbbbrbrbrbrbrbrbbrbrrbbbr   skin ripple
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vertical line Quote: "One does not need to go anywhere to hear the sound, of what is coming, to an end.
The sound takes away everything. The sound of absolution arises in all sound, but we feel it is permanent, and fixed, all of us who deny the sound as coming from one source.

We may find the source, or the source of sound may find us longing for unity, as in being united with all sound, motion, and we may become very quiet, even detached from the "noise" of permanence, control, conditional acceptance. We begin to step out of the delusion of what is created to last.
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This anwer of yours is very and thoughtfull and profound, Mr Woodsman.  However, what ChonTri meant in his first post had nothing to do with your answer here. 

A couple of days of the month of August 2005 (around 20th 24th of the month), Mr Alan took him to the Falls to watch it as he longered for seeing it since he was very young (don't ask how young he was) when he took some English course.  In the English textbook, among many other topics, there were a couple of pages that described the Falls and especially, there was a picture painted a man who was walking on a tight rope arcoss over the Falls.  This was very impressive to him.  And he longed for to see the Falls.

When he was there, at the Falls, he watched the water falling from the height down making a lot of big noises all days and nights never stops; and a lot of mists created by the falls of water looking like big white clouds floating over the current of water.  Then he put some words to tell what heard and saw of at the time he was at the Falls as you've seen in the first post.

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Jan.02.2008
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vertical line Yeah, know the feeling.. I have always wanted to see Hawaii (since I was a little kid btw!) Sigh..

Guess these old bones never will get to see the land of Aloha. If only some rich uncle or something could take me there before I die, but guess that is to much to ask God for, sigh...

Sorry. always start to cry every time I think of the splashing of the sea waves (which I might very well never get to hear), the endless blue beaches (which I might very well never get to see) and the bare breasted hola women (which I might very well never get to fondle)

Sigh... guess I`m stuck here.. "snff" Hawaii... The dream...
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Jan.02.2008
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You sound like you are a homeless man, Mr Shayne.
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Quote: "Quote: "i dont long for anywhere but where im at."
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You sound like you are a homeless man, Mr Shayne.
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not homeless..........i live with my gf. in a trailor.

she likes to go to atlantic city and gamble and such, i dont. she says im boring and no fun. haha. i go grant you...........but i dont LONG to go.

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Guess these old bones never will get to see the land of Aloha. If only some rich uncle or something could take me there before I die, but guess that is to much to ask God for, sigh...

Sorry. always start to cry every time I think of the splashing of the sea waves (which I might very well never get to hear), the endless blue beaches (which I might very well never get to see) and the bare breasted hola women (which I might very well never get to fondle)

Sigh... guess I`m stuck here.. "snff" Hawaii... The dream...
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Stuck or non-stuck,
Non-stuck or stuck,
It depends on the kind of pan
that one uses to cook.
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Quote: "see, told ya "
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haha.

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Quote: "I don't think he heard me. "
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who?

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Quote: "I don't think he heard me. "
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who?

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Mr.shayne, you write too fast, and think even faster than me!  Hold on, one more word... um, _______.
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Quote: "Quote: "Yeah, know the feeling.. I have always wanted to see Hawaii (since I was a little kid btw!) Sigh..

Guess these old bones never will get to see the land of Aloha. If only some rich uncle or something could take me there before I die, but guess that is to much to ask God for, sigh...

Sorry. always start to cry every time I think of the splashing of the sea waves (which I might very well never get to hear), the endless blue beaches (which I might very well never get to see) and the bare breasted hola women (which I might very well never get to fondle)

Sigh... guess I`m stuck here.. "snff" Hawaii... The dream...
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Stuck or non-stuck,
Non-stuck or stuck,
It depends on the kind of pan
that one uses to cook.
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hahahaha sense of humor

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Quote: "Must be those falls, once they get in there it's like, talkin' to a doctor, from behind a closed door. Let's keep it closed! "
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door to the hallway ? how would one get i and out?

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"sweet" icecream

but I suspect asking for brother what one wants for oneself

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