For Reflection

Bottomless in depth, boundlessly cast, foaming waves flood the sky; how can you determine the current of the water? If you discern the current of the water then you will know the source. If you don't yet know the source, for now I am speaking meaningless talk to you.

But how do you understand this "meaningless talk?' Is it that I tend to criticize people? Is this meaningless talk? Is it that speaking about wordly judgements and comparisons is meaningless talk? This is not the point.

As I see you, you are a sorry bunch. You leap up idly, and nine times out of ten crudely, merely having remembered a useless saying or an outworn speech. When you are confronted with a challenge, though, you cannot clear it up.

Nowadays there's a kind of elder who likes to instruct people by means of saying, like giving out verbal orders in a small village. That is called slandering universal insight. It is truly hard to repent. Why don't you search your own guts? When you are lying sick and helpless on your death bed, none of the sayings you learned all your life will be of any use at all.

Written by Ssu-hsin

With Metta

Quote: "Quote: ""drinking too much makes things crazy" says the six year old, am I his grandmother too?"
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That old man was a drunkard, but your grandson and you are alcoholics."
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why say this Chontri?

I can't answer that

Quote: "Chontri, maybe I should not write anymore ..as my daughter looked at my grandson playing and said, "he is now that boy" and listed attributes that someone might consider negative.... if this is a game I don't like it much."
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which is thought-believed is which will think are seeing

Quote: "please, when I wrote "I" not write here... it is in reference to Lynn , me, not writing, not Chontri.. just to be clear... and here I m unable to made even this clear with who"
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was referring:

 "as my daughter looked at my grandson playing and said, "he is now that boy" and listed attributes that someone might consider negative.... if this is a game I don't like it much"

If you are, just say: "Yes, I am.  What you said is correct."

If you are not, just say: No. I am not.  What you said is wrong."

That's all. 

You couldn't say anything as you told, because you got stuck at the words and thinking too much about them.

If the comment is correct, it cannot not add anything to you or subtract anything from you at all. 

If it is wrong, it cannot add anything to you or subtract anything from you at all. 

You are still what you are or who you are.  You are the Intact Yourself. Why bothered too much by the words.

This is the meaning mentioned in the topic, "A Devil's Advocate."

If you thoroughly understood this, you could help yourself and your grandson as well.

What he just told you was what he could see of you and not a definition. 

You don't have to offer him any definition at all because he will make it up when he needs, but he prefers to tell what he can see right in front of him than to make up a definition.

In some sense, every of us is of some kind of drunkard or alcoholic.  For example, it is like Mr Stephen when he tried to give some definitions of "Virtue" and how to show it to people

Quote: "the grandson? looked at me? and said, "you were suppose to wake up" and so I asked, "am I asleep?" and he answered "yes"  I place the question marks as it does appear that the grandson I know is also ....I don't know who and the me I know is also... I don't know who...so I'm not even sure the conversation was for and of us two."
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Ms Lynn,

ChonTri would like to stop talking about the matter here.  And you are on your own.