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  A monk asked the priest Kan-feng:
-Bhagavats in the ten directions got one straight road to Nirvana. I dare to ask where that road is?
Kan-feng lifted up his staff, drew a line in the air, and said:
-Here it is.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: DREAM AND REALITY
vertical line Posted on Jan.08.2008 @ 08:03PM EDT by chontri

When one took it as a dream,
then it would be a dream to him.
When one took it as reality,
then it would be reality to him.

If the two of them met each other on the road,
and each of them took his own position.

At first it would be a talk.
Next, it would be an arguement or a quarrel.
Then it would be a fight.
At the end, it would be black-n-blue.
It would not be the way to understand each other.

That is why a whole man does not take it in either way.

He sees it as-it-is:
It comes, it lasts, it passes away, whether it is a dream or reality.
It comes, it lasts, it passes away, whether it is true or false.

That's why it's called "Thus Comes and Thus Goes".


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Jan.08.2008
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vertical line To utter unimaginable shadow truths that no one else will speak.
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Reply from kelvintan
Jan.08.2008
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Quote: "To utter unimaginable shadow truths that no one else will speak. "
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Bro Rustic,

To utter unimaginable shadow  truths is to bring one to

 Realisation. Unmanifest.Struggling.Timeless In Creation.

OM

Wise Old Man speaks

With Metta

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Jan.09.2008
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Quote: "To utter unimaginable shadow truths that no one else will speak. "
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Truth itself is not hard to see.
People make themself hard to see it.
What did they do to make themself hard to see it?
They usually wear different color sunglasses.

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Jan.09.2008
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vertical line how do you know the glasses are off?
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Jan.09.2008
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vertical line does thus come and thus go walk? with such strides that the step reaching out must wait for the other side? does it bring it forward? which is a step? every foot is seperate? swishing side to side?
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Jan.09.2008
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Quote: "does thus come and thus go walk? with such strides that the step reaching out must wait for the other side? does it bring it forward? which is a step? every foot is seperate? swishing side to side?"
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Just pay close attention to the strides, every step, every movement, even your breathing. Have an awareness of all these sense activity that is taking place, not letting your mind drift. Soon you will find the peace you are searching for when no thoughts arises.

With Metta

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Jan.09.2008
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vertical line can we find no peace when thought arises? you can hear thought, or something like it...in the quiet... sometimes it is direct..in front...and sometimes it is just a party line
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Jan.09.2008
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vertical line I think we feel thought... what is thought really?
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Jan.09.2008
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Jan.09.2008
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Quote: "I think we feel thought... what is thought really?"
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With a thinking mind, there is thought and emotions in it

No-mind is consciousness without thought and emotions

Don't get caught up with your thoughts

Goodnite

With Metta

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Jan.09.2008
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goodnight

.... and the song goes..

and dream alittle dream of me..............   :)

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Jan.09.2008
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vertical line the smell of this shirt smells soooo good
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Jan.09.2008
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vertical line mmmmmhh... "cuddle" "cuddle" :)
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vertical line Huh? "gromblfh..."
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Jan.09.2008
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Quote: "I think we feel thought... what is thought really?"
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With a thinking mind, there is thought and emotions in it

No-mind is consciousness without thought and emotions

Don't get caught up with your thoughts

Goodnite

With Metta

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their isnt a question of no mind. and emotions are ok. thoughts are ok.

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Jan.10.2008
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vertical line The focus determines the reality?..
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Jan.10.2008
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Quote: "I think we feel thought... what is thought really?"
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With a thinking mind, there is thought and emotions in it

No-mind is consciousness without thought and emotions

Don't get caught up with your thoughts

Goodnite

With Metta

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their isnt a question of no mind. and emotions are ok. thoughts are ok.

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Shouldn't Have Any whY? No Engagement

With Metta

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Jan.10.2008
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vertical line When consciousness isn't going out to an object, that's no-mind.
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Quote: "mmmmmhh... "cuddle" "cuddle" :) "
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really !  

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Quote: "I think we feel thought... what is thought really?"
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With a thinking mind, there is thought and emotions in it

No-mind is consciousness without thought and emotions

Don't get caught up with your thoughts

Goodnite

With Metta

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their isnt a question of no mind. and emotions are ok. thoughts are ok.

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Shouldn't Have Any whY? No Engagement

With Metta

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why....yesssss..... but no engagement "before" the wedding darling... why that's just..just...  hahahahaha

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Quote: "When consciousness isn't going out to an object, that's no-mind."
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and when might that be?

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Jan.10.2008
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Quote: "When consciousness isn't going out to an object, that's no-mind."
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and when might that be?

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Consciousness Having-no Objectivity-is No-mind . The Rest Imagination

at any moment ,is the power of the human mind to imagine.

Imagine All The People, a song

With Metta

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Jan.10.2008
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Quote: "It comes, it lasts, it passes away, whether it is a dream or reality."

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Dreams are real. Reality is not only what you see or touch when you are awake.

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Quote: "It comes, it lasts, it passes away, whether it is a dream or reality."

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Dreams are real. Reality is not only what you see or touch when you are awake.

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Dreams are in the sub-conscious state of mind,

Reality in the conscious  state mind while

Truths are in the unconscious state of mind

With Metta

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Jan.10.2008
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vertical line are you talking of psychology?
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Jan.10.2008
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vertical line It's another mind talking 'either/or'.
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Jan.10.2008
06:04PM EDT 
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Quote: "It comes, it lasts, it passes away, whether it is a dream or reality."

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Dreams are real. Reality is not only what you see or touch when you are awake.

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It comes, it lasts, it passes away, whatever you'd say.
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Jan.11.2008
01:21PM EDT 
vertical line where does it come from?
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Jan.12.2008
06:08AM EDT 
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Quote: "where does it come from?"
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Doesn't know.

You want to know?
Help youself.

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