history principles practice stories, books, media discussion forum organizations resources
zenguide.com logo
 
Sunday Dec 21 2014 06:13PM ET
º login º register º email º guestbook º printer friendly
grey dot
  Shih-tou Hsi-chien (700-790) was a very well known Chinese Ch'an master.
As a young monk, he was one of the disciples of the Sixth Patriarch Hui-neng.
After Hui-neng passed away, Shih-tou continued his pilgrimage...
He paid a vist... continue...

z
.
e
.
n
menu left history menu spacer principles menu spacer practice menu spacer zen media menu spacer discussion forum menu spacer organization directory menu spacer resources  
login
  DISCUSSION FORUM
» topic list   » start a new topic   » my tracked topics   » view topic
grey dot

horizontal line
→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: WHEN A FRAGMENTED MAN
vertical line Posted on Jan.16.2008 @ 07:12PM EDT by chontri

Someone once said something like this:

"When a whole man just hears what is said, he immediately captures it in a flash of lightning, then he walks on and does his creative work.

When a half-n-half man hears what is said, he seems to understand it but actually he does not. He keeps reasoning, arguing, asking and jumping into any conclusion which might come from his memory. With him, there is nothing new.  He just bothers himself and others. 

When a fragmented man hears what is talked about, the more he listens to it, the more he gets confused and goes into broken pieces of his thoughts, then he askes and asks with frivolous questions or takes it as a joke and laughs as loud as he could. But if he did not laugh at it, how could it be called the way of fragmented men?"


Go to Latest Reply   Reply to this Topic   Email chontri
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from ______
Jan.16.2008
07:31PM EDT 
vertical line Each person defines the existence of other beings in accordance with a model held in the mind.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78340
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.16.2008
07:48PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line

Quote: "Each person defines the existence of other beings in accordance with a model held in the mind. "
.........
If there were no other beings that his mind could take pictures of could he define anything? 

vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78341
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from 77 zen ror
Jan.16.2008
08:39PM EDT 
Email 77 zen ror
vertical line But are you who you are. Do you have full understanding. What is is.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78344
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.16.2008
08:42PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line

Quote: "But are you who you are. Do you have full understanding. What is is."
.........
Is that what you really want to know?

vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78345
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from ______
Jan.16.2008
08:58PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "

Quote: "Each person defines the existence of other beings in accordance with a model held in the mind. "
.........
If there were no other beings that his mind could take pictures of could he define anything? 


"
.........
If there were no other beings, there would be no mind.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78347
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from lehish
Jan.16.2008
09:02PM EDT 
Email lehish
vertical line is all big laughing joke chontri
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78348
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.16.2008
09:09PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "

Quote: "Each person defines the existence of other beings in accordance with a model held in the mind. "
.........
If there were no other beings that his mind could take pictures of could he define anything? 


"
.........
If there were no other beings, there would be no mind.
"
.........
Still he is.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78349
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.16.2008
09:10PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line Quote: "is all big laughing joke chontri"
.........
What do you think?
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78350
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from ______
Jan.17.2008
09:34AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "

Quote: "Each person defines the existence of other beings in accordance with a model held in the mind. "
.........
If there were no other beings that his mind could take pictures of could he define anything? 



"
.........
If there were no other beings, there would be no mind.
"
.........
Still he is.
"
.........He is not his mind, he is indefinable, neither defining nor not defining. He is the capacity to see.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78351
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from lehish
Jan.17.2008
10:18AM EDT 
Email lehish
vertical line

Quote: "Quote: "is all big laughing joke chontri"
.........
What do you think?
"
.........

don't know what you're asking

vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78353
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.17.2008
05:54PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line Quote: "

Quote: "Quote: "is all big laughing joke chontri"
.........
What do you think?
"
.........

don't know what you're asking

"
.........
You mean you don't know what he's asking.  Right? 
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78355
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from lehish
Jan.17.2008
06:08PM EDT 
Email lehish
vertical line yes don't know what are asking
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78356
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.17.2008
06:42PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line Quote: "yes don't know what are asking"
.........
So, you don't know.  It's alright.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78357
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from lehish
Jan.17.2008
07:14PM EDT 
Email lehish
vertical line

Quote: "Quote: "yes don't know what are asking"
.........
So, you don't know.  It's alright.
"
.........

yes don't know

vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78358
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from chontri
Jan.17.2008
07:25PM EDT 
Email chontri
vertical line Quote: "

Quote: "Quote: "yes don't know what are asking"
.........
So, you don't know.  It's alright.
"
.........

yes don't know

"
.........
Alright.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78359
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from ______
Jan.18.2008
08:53AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "is all big laughing joke chontri"
.........
So why aren't you laughing - where's the smiley and the hee-haws?
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78360
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from ______
Jan.18.2008
08:54AM EDT 
vertical line It's not biggie - just think of this as a piece of mind.
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78361
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from ______
Jan.18.2008
09:36AM EDT 
vertical line And nonsense, sense? My inner sense is the only authority. Is that provocative enough or not provocative enough, right or wrong, correct or incorrect? Just imagine you could think, then what?
vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78366
horizontal line
 
horizontal line
Reply from Lynnoh
Jan.22.2008
01:17PM EDT 
Email Lynnoh
vertical line

Quote: "It's not biggie - just think of this as a piece of mind. "
.........

a peice of work for every day of week..and a oragami crane, owl,envelope.....

vertical line Quote & Reply   Post Reply 78424
horizontal line
 
Back To Topic List   Go to Top of Page

 



SUPPORT ZENGUIDE.COM
If you are planning on purchasing any product from amazon.com, you can help us out by using the search box to the right or by clicking on this link to begin shopping.


Purchase posters, art prints, media (music CD & DVD)

buy this ZEN BOATS
by Prisma
Puchase this Item
More Art Prints & Media
Zen & Buddhism books
 
 
d
.
i
.
s
.
c
.
u
.
s
.
s
.
i
.
o
.
n
.

.
f
.
o
.
r
.
u
.
m
.
Copyright © 1999 - 2014 zenguide.com - All rights reserved. °