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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: DHAMMAPADA, OUR EARNESTNES
vertical line Posted on Jan.19.2008 @ 06:26AM EDT by Vickie4591

After reading this chapter I am somewhat confused about it.  The whole chapter sounds to me like a lesson in how to stroke ones ego.  "stand upon a mountain top to look down on the people who are not earnest, and then #27 Follow not after vanity, (i can and do agree with that) nor after the enjoyment of love( I thought that is what we are suppose to do, love our neighbor?)and lust ( ok, I understand that)!  He who is earnest and meditates obtains ample joy.  How can you obtain joy with out love?

Please clarify for me, as I am an earnest beleiver, and student, and do not wish to develop a superiority complex over the everday person who does not follow the way to enlightenment.


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Reply from boymonk
Jan.19.2008
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vertical line The great way is not "after the enjoyment" of love. It's just love, plain and simple.

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Reply from 77 zen ror
Jan.19.2008
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vertical line Hi Boy monk. Love with you heart. Then your heart well fell as a ocean of love for all of us to see an enjoy. Thank for your posting Vic.
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Jan.20.2008
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vertical line What do you believe in, Vickie?
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Jan.20.2008
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vertical line Okey dokey, this mountain, when you get to the top, is it windy noise or becalmed silence?
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Reply from lehish
Jan.20.2008
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will back after going bathroom

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Jan.20.2008
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vertical line turned up heat and got water too
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Jan.20.2008
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vertical line The mind likes boundaries but mountain top and valley are symbols - awake/asleep; conscious/unconscious....literalism is building a house in the valley.
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Jan.20.2008
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Jan.20.2008
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vertical line ok, got blanket
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Jan.20.2008
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vertical line Check for leaks. Stay warm, sleep well.
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Jan.20.2008
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Quote: "Check for leaks. Stay warm, sleep well."
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thanks, will sleeping when sleeping

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Jan.22.2008
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Quote: "The mind likes boundaries but mountain top and valley are symbols - awake/asleep; conscious/unconscious....literalism is building a house in the valley."
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maybe symbols.. but I do not know of them..

being is form and form is way..mountain way, valley  way...

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Jan.22.2008
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Quote: "being is form and form is way..mountain way, valley  way... "

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Jan.22.2008
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vertical line spent the last hour or so printing photos and changeing tones, color...and size, so you must see? white light crossing screen...hearing Om
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Jan.22.2008
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Jan.22.2008
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Quote: "spent the last hour or so printing photos and changeing tones, color...and size, so you must see? white light crossing screen...hearing Om"
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what are talking about ?

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Jan.22.2008
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Quote: "or something like it ?"
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what means "something like it" ?

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Jan.22.2008
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Quote: "spent the last hour or so printing photos and changeing tones, color...and size, so you must see? white light crossing screen...hearing Om"
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are looking for a 'reason' ?

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Jan.22.2008
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vertical line what are were you looking for while looking lynnoh ?
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Jan.22.2008
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Quote: "what are were you looking for while looking lynnoh ?"
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what are were you seeking to prove while looking lynnoh ?

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Jan.23.2008
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if you answered like this..you know enough

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Jan.23.2008
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Jan.24.2008
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 if was "nothing" you were just  chatting to chat when posted? :

Quote: "spent the last hour or so printing photos and changeing tones, color...and size, so you must see? white light crossing screen...hearing Om"


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Jan.24.2008
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vertical line you weren't attempting to suggest something lynnoh?
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Jan.24.2008
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are you?

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 if was "nothing" you were just  chatting to chat when posted? :

Quote: "spent the last hour or so printing photos and changeing tones, color...and size, so you must see? white light crossing screen...hearing Om"


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I am asking if you saw. seeing the white light I type it (what is seen) but I can stop that and hearing something like "Om' faintly so unsure of..I type it (what is heard) but I can stop it. no problem

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Jan.24.2008
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that is your description

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Jan.25.2008
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Jan.25.2008
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vertical line When you fine it. You fine that this is the way it's. This is the best of life. Enjoy it. It could be lost in a monments time. The joy of zen guid.
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Jan.26.2008
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Quote: "are you sure?"
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now you thinking that

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Jan.26.2008
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"now you thinking that"  isn't  referring to then

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vertical line I just love this time of day the golding time of day.
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"now you thinking that"  isn't  referring to then

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Jan.27.2008
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Jan.27.2008
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vertical line Your self. What lies deep down in side your heart you found. Understanding you in these last posting. Your were awaken with wisdom.
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Jan.28.2008
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Jan.29.2008
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Jan.29.2008
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Jan.29.2008
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vertical line Put the drill down, step away from the drill.
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Jan.29.2008
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Jan.29.2008
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what are seeking through a sentence ?

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Jan.29.2008
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Jan.29.2008
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Quote: "Wrong question for you to answer, methinks."
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that cannot be known

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Jan.29.2008
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Jan.29.2008
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'that can't be known' was referring ""Wrong question for you to answer, methinks"

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Jan.30.2008
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vertical line Yeah, yeah. And you both feel this anger entangled with frustration and something.. vaguely disturbing about each other...
As the tension brewed, both knew it was just a matter of time. Glistering eyes meeting, a heated discussion. Face closer to face. And then this silence, as eyes fall silent into eyes.When all of a sudden..
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We interrupt this posting for our American viewers with an advertisement of the werewolf saga currently screening at tread 12.

One man...(thum thum thum) Ready to face his destiny!...   (thum thum thum thum) (thaaad daaa) He is, the werewolf man!  
(thum thum thum thum weerewoolf thum thum thum weerewoolf thum thum thum weerewoolf. ta da da ta weerewooolf. ta da da ta weerewoolf)

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