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vertical line Posted on Jan.27.2008 @ 08:13PM EDT by Zoz333

At the risk of showing my age,( ha ha! )back in the day my first real understanding of the principles of Zen came with a book called Be Here Now,by Babba Ram Dass.It was not only a verbal experiance,but a visual one also.

I'm wondering...is there anyone out there familiar with this book,and if so what did you think about it?  


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Reply from 9999999
Jan.27.2008
08:51PM EDT 
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vertical line THE TAO (THE WAY)

and jesus said I AM THE WAY.

ITS THE SAME WAY!

the way
is the way
IS THE WAY!
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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.27.2008
08:54PM EDT 
vertical line That is right...we are all on the same path...it's just that some have different vehicles than others.
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Reply from Haydos
Jan.27.2008
08:56PM EDT 
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vertical line and some of us take longer to get there than others...
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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.27.2008
09:01PM EDT 
vertical line "It's not the time it takes...it's the journey"
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Reply from 9999999
Jan.27.2008
09:12PM EDT 
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vertical line you fools. you are already there.


there is no path
there is no way
here we all are rignt now.
some joker told you that "way and path" jargon and now you're stuck on it.
pinch your cheek and listen to the clicking of your keys

even the above is a lie.
YOU ARE IT AND THATS ALL THERE IS



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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.27.2008
10:29PM EDT 
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Sheesh buddy,whats the matter,run out of meds? Pretty harsh words comming from a professed Buddhist.

I see below,1st rule is "Personal attack on an individual or group"...this leads me to put you in a extremely ignorant person list,and click on ignore. Maybe your the one due for self-evaluation.

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Reply from lehish
Jan.27.2008
11:22PM EDT 
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what "attack" ?

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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.28.2008
12:03AM EDT 
vertical line I don't take to kindly to being called a "fool"...do you?
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Reply from 9999999
Jan.28.2008
12:43AM EDT 
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vertical line when i am a buddhist i drive people crazy

when i am buddha everyone is fine

when i am a taoist i drive people crazy

when i am tao everyone is fine

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who feels hurt?
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Reply from 9999999
Jan.28.2008
12:44AM EDT 
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vertical line when i am a christian everyone is suffering

when i am christ everyone is already saved
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Jan.28.2008
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Quote: "I don't take to kindly to being called a "fool"...do you?"
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what doesn't take kindly to being called a fool ?

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Jan.28.2008
12:52AM EDT 
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 who feels hurt?
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right

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Reply from 9999999
Jan.28.2008
12:53AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "I don't take to kindly to being called a "fool"...do you?"

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and now what, you're getting back at me by putting me on your "ignorant people" list?

hehe
gassho!

i love you = )
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Jan.28.2008
01:00AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "I don't take to kindly to being called a "fool"...do you?"

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and now what, you're getting back at me by putting me on your "ignorant people" list?

hehe
gassho!

i love you = )
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who am I egging on?
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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.28.2008
01:20AM EDT 
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"there is no path
there is no way
here we all are rignt now.
some joker told you that "way and path" jargon and now you're stuck on it.
pinch your cheek and listen to the clicking of your keys"

"even the above is a lie.
YOU ARE IT AND THATS ALL THERE IS"

Mr.jthabuddha...it's sad that you really believe this.
Doe's the river have no destiation also? For the water
to have no movement,creates stagnation.
Does not the Universe itself have a path,a "way".
You are "the lie",incarnate.
I posted this topic to discuss a book.But you feel the
necessity to try and prove me beneath you,and your belief.
Have I questioned your faith or belief?

TAO TE CHING - Chapter 25. Beneath Abstraction

There is a mystery,
Beneath abstraction,
Silent, depthless,
Alone, unchanging,
Ubiquitous and liquid,
The mother of nature.
It has no name, but I call it "the Way";
It has no limit, but I call it "limitless".

Being limitless, it flows away forever;
Flowing away forever, it returns to my self:

The Way is limitless,
So nature is limitless,
So the world is limitless,
And so I am limitless.

For I am abstracted from the world,
The world from nature,
Nature from the Way,
And the Way from what is beneath abstraction.

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Jan.28.2008
01:25AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "

"there is no path
there is no way
here we all are rignt now.
some joker told you that "way and path" jargon and now you're stuck on it.
pinch your cheek and listen to the clicking of your keys"

"even the above is a lie.
YOU ARE IT AND THATS ALL THERE IS"

Mr.jthabuddha...it's sad that you really believe this.
Doe's the river have no destiation also? For the water
to have no movement,creates stagnation.
Does not the Universe itself have a path,a "way".
You are "the lie",incarnate.
I posted this topic to discuss a book.But you feel the
necessity to try and prove me beneath you,and your belief.
Have I questioned your faith or belief?

TAO TE CHING - Chapter 25. Beneath Abstraction

There is a mystery,
Beneath abstraction,
Silent, depthless,
Alone, unchanging,
Ubiquitous and liquid,
The mother of nature.
It has no name, but I call it "the Way";
It has no limit, but I call it "limitless".

Being limitless, it flows away forever;
Flowing away forever, it returns to my self:

The Way is limitless,
So nature is limitless,
So the world is limitless,
And so I am limitless.

For I am abstracted from the world,
The world from nature,
Nature from the Way,
And the Way from what is beneath abstraction.

"
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no beliefs here

rivers pull oceans behind them

there is no universe--close eyes and see...it gone!
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Jan.28.2008
01:30AM EDT 
vertical line Rivers  empty into oceans...when I close my eyes,I see the true universe.
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Jan.28.2008
01:31AM EDT 
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I posted this topic to discuss a book.But you feel the
necessity to try and prove me beneath you,and your belief.
Have I questioned your faith or belief?


"
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it is not possible to be lower than I
the ground is me
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Jan.28.2008
01:32AM EDT 
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what is the true universe and who is looking at it?
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Jan.28.2008
01:33AM EDT 
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"it is not possible to be lower than I
the ground is me"

And I walk above it.

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Jan.28.2008
01:35AM EDT 
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what is the true universe and who is looking at it?

I am,,,is the answer to both.

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Jan.28.2008
01:36AM EDT 
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"it is not possible to be lower than I
the ground is me"

And I walk above it.

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yes you do
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Jan.28.2008
01:37AM EDT 
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what is the true universe and who is looking at it?

I am,,,is the answer to both.

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dont be mistaken
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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.28.2008
01:40AM EDT 
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"dont be mistaken"

OK...I wont.

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Jan.28.2008
01:44AM EDT 
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"dont be mistaken"

OK...I wont.

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cherry

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Reply from Zoz333
Jan.28.2008
01:52AM EDT 
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I must admit,,,you put a smile on my face,and made me laugh. I do enjoy the challenge of thoughtfull discussions.

Shall we agree to disagree?

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Jan.28.2008
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I must admit,,,you put a smile on my face,and made me laugh. I do enjoy the challenge of thoughtfull discussions.

Shall we agree to disagree?

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i think we agree = )
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Jan.28.2008
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vertical line He walk the line way way up-uh-hole ding dong to ride at crack of dawn in a ring of burning fire, winking great white grail seeker author say Jesus say I am Jesus no say I am. You're a fool; I'm an eejit. Let's argue. Great. Great white grail seeker. My tongue is asleep. My teeth itch. Before finish reading poster posting everythink postee knew changoid prove wrong this includey definition proofly.
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