Chang-ch'o, an educated man, once asked the Chinese Ch'an master Chih-t'sang:
-Is there paradise or hell?
-That is not correct. When I was studying under the
The path being asked about is the one that other guy said you should leave before you arrive, but watch out, he's a captain and he will have you drilling holes in your knucklehead if he thinks you have the guts for it.