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vertical line Posted on Feb.19.2008 @ 11:08AM EDT by friend

After taking an on-line survey to select a religion based on my beleifs, Mahayana Buddhism was selected for me. Please help me with information to begin a new journey and discover the truth.  Where do I start?


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Reply from stephen
Feb.19.2008
01:07PM EDT 
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Go to (right here):

PRACTICE
» introduction   » zazen: a beginer's guide to zen mediation   » on-line resources

One must practice in order to understand.

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Reply from ______
Feb.19.2008
02:12PM EDT 
vertical line You are unique, because you are visitor number 372692. You're nothing like visitor number 9992 or even visitor number 23. (Even if you were visitor 9992 or 23, if you know what I mean.) You're just... well... special!

"Always remember, you're unique. Just like everyone else."
-Unk.
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Reply from -----0
Feb.19.2008
02:45PM EDT 
vertical line forget all those beliefs and you are done
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Reply from ______
Feb.19.2008
03:21PM EDT 
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Reply from boymonk
Feb.19.2008
07:11PM EDT 
vertical line Start by forgetting the self.
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Reply from 9999999
Feb.19.2008
07:34PM EDT 
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vertical line ripe for the truth right now!

pack your bags
go to the station without them
catch the train
and leave yourself behind

(wei wu wei)
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Reply from drmattoon
Feb.19.2008
08:55PM EDT 
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vertical line There are a lot of wonderful resources online for the many flavors of Mahayana Buddhism, but you really need to find a teacher close by for some personal instruction if you can...
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Reply from ______
Feb.20.2008
09:05AM EDT 
vertical line Is this about liberation or control? Ask yourself where these beliefs come from. Because they are the only things in the way of the way; fences on a path, obstacles. Anyway, a someone else to teach you this and that, is giving you knowledge, not truth. They may even give you their vision and truth but if you merely believe in it, for you it becomes a clouded lie. Realise the vision, and you are realising a truth.

And don't eat food fast - see the mashed banana, see the apple, see the bread, see the water, see, the whole universe has brought food, to help you, to support you. Eat, drink, and be sustained in the moment of truth.
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Reply from 9999999
Feb.20.2008
01:32PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Is this about liberation or control? Ask yourself where these beliefs come from. Because they are the only things in the way of the way; fences on a path, obstacles. Anyway, a someone else to teach you this and that, is giving you knowledge, not truth. They may even give you their vision and truth but if you merely believe in it, for you it becomes a clouded lie. Realise the vision, and you are realising a truth.

And don't eat food fast - see the mashed banana, see the apple, see the bread, see the water, see, the whole universe has brought food, to help you, to support you. Eat, drink, and be sustained in the moment of truth.
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cherry!
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Reply from A_Pict
Feb.20.2008
11:37PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Anyway, a someone else to teach you this and that, is giving you knowledge, not truth."
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Is knowledge a bad thing? It may or may not be regarded as truth, but wouldn't knowledge help negate ignorance? Or, at the very least, help to identify ignorance since one isn't aware of ignorance without the knowledge of it's existence?
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Reply from 9999999
Feb.21.2008
12:42AM EDT 
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vertical line any knowledge gathered outside of oneself is ignorance--- so one cant just be told.
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Reply from drmattoon
Feb.21.2008
09:29AM EDT 
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vertical line Without someone to point out the direction of the moon, you don't ever find the moon. It is absolutely crucial to have someone part of a buddhist lineage to point out the way to you. You are right, nobody can take you there, you must travel the path yourself, but without a teacher's guidance your just dancing in circles, and anyone who says different, either just likes to post things on this site because they are bored, or is not a buddhist. They just don't know
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Reply from -----0
Feb.21.2008
10:25AM EDT 
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Quote: "Quote: "Anyway, a someone else to teach you this and that, is giving you knowledge, not truth."
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Is knowledge a bad thing? It may or may not be regarded as truth, but wouldn't knowledge help negate ignorance? Or, at the very least, help to identify ignorance since one isn't aware of ignorance without the knowledge of it's existence?
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What Buddha realized can't be accessed by knowledge. In fact, knowledge is one of the main obstacles. But yes, knowledge is useful for dealing with Things. Ignorance, in Buddhist sense, means inability to realize what Buddha's "teachings" are about.

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Reply from lehish
Feb.21.2008
01:41PM EDT 
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Quote: "Without someone to point out the direction of the moon, you don't ever find the moon. It is absolutely crucial to have someone part of a buddhist lineage to point out the way to you. 
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listening doesn't require pointing

if are believing in pointing, then there's nothing which isn't pointing

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Reply from 9999999
Feb.21.2008
06:51PM EDT 
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vertical line no path to travel
nobody to care
who is pointing to what?
its absolutely everywhere
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Reply from lehish
Feb.21.2008
08:00PM EDT 
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Quote: "no path to travel
nobody to care
who is pointing to what?
its absolutely everywhere
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:D:D:D

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Reply from ______
Feb.22.2008
09:58AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Anyway, a someone else to teach you this and that, is giving you knowledge, not truth."
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Is knowledge a bad thing? It may or may not be regarded as truth, but wouldn't knowledge help negate ignorance? Or, at the very least, help to identify ignorance since one isn't aware of ignorance without the knowledge of it's existence?
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No, knowledge is not a bad thing.
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Reply from ______
Feb.22.2008
10:02AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Without someone to point out the direction of the moon, you don't ever find the moon. It is absolutely crucial to have someone part of a buddhist lineage to point out the way to you. You are right, nobody can take you there, you must travel the path yourself, but without a teacher's guidance your just dancing in circles, and anyone who says different, either just likes to post things on this site because they are bored, or is not a buddhist. They just don't know"
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I thought those buddhists were supposed to go easy on the whole judgement, jumping to conclusions thing? It seems to be your raison d'être But for the record, no, I'm not a Buddhist, I know that much.
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Reply from ______
Feb.22.2008
10:18AM EDT 
vertical line You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?" "He picked up a piece of the truth," said the devil. "That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend. "Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to help him organize it."

I maintain that truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or coerce people along a particular path.

All authority of any kind, especially in the field of thought and understanding, is the most destructive, evil thing. Leaders destroy the followers and followers destroy the leaders. You have to be your own teacher and your own disciple. You have to question everything that man has accepted as valuable, as necessary.
~Krishnamurti
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Reply from 9999999
Feb.22.2008
01:20PM EDT 
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Reply from 77 zen ror
Feb.22.2008
08:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Take the path thats leads to your heart. Share your new love and understanding of you with others. It's the love and compassion, kindness. We love to see in others. My your path free you of all suffering.
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Reply from ______
Feb.23.2008
02:28PM EDT 
vertical line One man went to mow
Went to mow a path
One man and his dog
Went to mow a path

Two men went to mow
Went to mow a path
Two men, one man, and his dog
Went to mow a path



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