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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: ULTIMATE REALITY
vertical line Posted on Mar.05.2008 @ 09:04PM EDT by shayne

what is the utltimate reality?

why you.

That which looks for the ultimate reality IS the utliamte reality.

nothing else makes laws. nothing else make morals. nothing else makes religions.

we are the gods of our own universe.


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Mar.05.2008
10:37PM EDT 
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vertical line Man, I was with some sad folks last night, lots of tears. At the end, they thanked me. I thought, "Is that interaction as important as say... the neighbor's dog barking?"
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Mar.05.2008
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vertical line The dog never thanked me, in English, for listening, it, is, it's own reward.. 
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Mar.05.2008
10:44PM EDT 
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vertical line sure. more important.
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Mar.05.2008
10:45PM EDT 
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Mar.05.2008
11:09PM EDT 
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Quote: "see? "
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see what?

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.05.2008
11:24PM EDT 
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vertical line We want to see our perceptions as being more important than the other guys, or the dogs. But importance is a relative term, and most of the most important observations are missed, by the other guy. See?! Just say, "yes".
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vertical line The quality of being chosen is reserved for one being in the other guy's shoes. Once you choose to be in the other one's suffering, that acts as a stimulus for a reconnection to a forgotten way, back to health, dropping all fear and rage, uniting at the center of all being; being centered on the lives of all giving. It's not something which is just said, out of expectation of how to be, for praise. The praise is a kind of happy surprise. But the universe itself, beyond time, beyond form reflects this choice... it is witnessed, but takes listening to the smallest sound, maybe even the sound of one hand clapping.
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Mar.06.2008
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Quote: "Once you choose to be in the other one's suffering "
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what "you choose" ?

what  "other one's" ?

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Mar.06.2008
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Mar.06.2008
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Mar.06.2008
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Quote: "Once you choose to be in the other one's suffering "
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what "you choose" ?

what  "other one's" ?

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Mar.06.2008
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Mar.06.2008
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vertical line That reminds me, I have to go put on my pants, or plants.
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Mar.06.2008
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Mar.06.2008
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Mar.06.2008
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vertical line No death, only dissolution, all plant food. Heaven and hell are inside, no outer states.
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Reply from eohdao
Mar.10.2008
02:29AM EDT 
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vertical line Tao: The ultimate reality is nothingness.
Zen: There is no ultimate reality.
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Mar.10.2008
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vertical line Quote: "Tao: The ultimate reality is nothingness.
Zen: There is no ultimate reality.

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So why are you worrying about where to put your feet and hands?
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Reply from shayne
Mar.18.2008
08:44PM EDT 
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vertical line The ultimate reality can be searched for but this is the ultimate reality looking for itself.
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Reply from shayne
Mar.18.2008
08:56PM EDT 
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IF god is then he MADE UP morals and " thou shall not kill " and such.

his SELF made such.

including the christian religion.

BUDDHISM was made up.

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Mar.18.2008
09:02PM EDT 
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even IF their is other planes of existance this one counts the most.

THIS holy life is meant to be lived.

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Mar.18.2008
11:34PM EDT 
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vertical line I am a flower. Shine your light before men, in such a way as to glorify God in heaven.
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Reply from Snibbler
Mar.19.2008
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IF god is then he MADE UP morals and " thou shall not kill " and such.

his SELF made such.

including the christian religion.

BUDDHISM was made up.

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I say it arouse from the muddy waters of cause and effect. And it is preposterous to claim that  "if there is a God" he  would be responsible for  creating ridiculous  laws to accompany our free will when already influenced by excellent "karma-laws"TM (comes around goes around, live by sword, die by sword, bla, bla, etc)
But then again, I just made up this whole post myself, so don`t take it to seriously, ok?/:0)
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Mar.19.2008
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Quote: "Once you choose to be in the other one's suffering "
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what "you choose" ?

what  "other one's" ?

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Says who, Lehish?

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Mar.19.2008
04:23AM EDT 
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what is the utltimate reality?

why you.

That which looks for the ultimate reality IS the utliamte reality.

nothing else makes laws. nothing else make morals. nothing else makes religions.

we are the gods of our own universe.

Sweet !!!

The Shayne God comes seeking Shayne.

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Mar.19.2008
04:24AM EDT 
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Quote: "The quality of being chosen is reserved for one being in the other guy's shoes. Once you choose to be in the other one's suffering, that acts as a stimulus for a reconnection to a forgotten way, back to health, dropping all fear and rage, uniting at the center of all being; being centered on the lives of all giving. It's not something which is just said, out of expectation of how to be, for praise. The praise is a kind of happy surprise. But the universe itself, beyond time, beyond form reflects this choice... it is witnessed, but takes listening to the smallest sound, maybe even the sound of one hand clapping. "
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You are the Tower of Babble. 

You always seem to rise above it.

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Reply from hunger
Mar.19.2008
05:11AM EDT 
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maybe i should let it catch up?
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Mar.19.2008
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Quote: "Once you choose to be in the other one's suffering "
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Says who, Lehish?

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> what "you choose" ?

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Mar.19.2008
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Mar.19.2008
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Reply from shayne
Mar.19.2008
09:28PM EDT 
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what is the utltimate reality?

why you.

That which looks for the ultimate reality IS the utliamte reality.

nothing else makes laws. nothing else make morals. nothing else makes religions.

we are the gods of our own universe.

Sweet !!!

The Shayne God comes seeking Shayne.

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i dont seek. i found.

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Mar.19.2008
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Mar.19.2008
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Quote: "twas blind, but now, he see "
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ah...........i quess thats nice. thanks,

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vertical line the divine begins as animal

moves through space

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Mar.20.2008
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Mar.20.2008
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what "you choose", what "other one's" , "asheera" ?

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