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TOPIC: FOLOWING BREATH WITH MIND'S EYE PRACTICE |
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Posted on Mar.10.2008 @ 12:03AM EDT by tegramon
Hi
How do you follow your breath with your minds eye? Do you "visualize" it? As a vaporous light or something similar?
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Reply from 9999999
Mar.10.2008
12:45AM EDT
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why want do that?
not possible anyway--no such thing as "mind" to do that
what trying to get that dont already have?
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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.10.2008
01:01AM EDT
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The breath is a kind of felt companion, that adjusts to thoughts we have, but rarely of it, rarely thoughts about just a breath to take and let go. So the breath is a kind of neutral place, of waiting. One breathes in with a certain thought, being aware through the in breath, one then reaches a turning after the in breath where there is a peak, where we no longer need to take in. On the out breath, we allow the thought to dissipate, back out to the world, and on that out breath we breathe out a peaceful letting go, and a thankful heart that can let go of what we think of control. |
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Reply from ______
Mar.10.2008
09:17AM EDT
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It's self-help therapy. |
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Reply from tegramon
Mar.10.2008
12:13PM EDT
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I am only following the PDF guide placed in the the practice sections of the guide. So sorry if I asked something stupid, I am new to zen and still studying. |
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Reply from ______
Mar.10.2008
02:52PM EDT
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Do you feel stupid? In comparison with what? |
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Reply from tegramon
Mar.10.2008
03:49PM EDT
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Quote: "Do you feel stupid? In comparison with what?"
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I just asked a simple question. I do not compare myself with others. Each has his own path layed before him. That is what I know. Now ... in the Practice section of this webpage, there lay's a PDF with a guide of Zezen. There writes that the second exercise is to follow your breath with your mind eye. That was my problem, you visualize it? |
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Reply from 9999999
Mar.10.2008
03:53PM EDT
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Quote: "
Quote: "Do you feel stupid? In comparison with what?"
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I just asked a simple question. I do not compare myself with others. Each has his own path layed before him. That is what I know. Now ... in the Practice section of this webpage, there lay's a PDF with a guide of Zezen. There writes that the second exercise is to follow your breath with your mind eye. That was my problem, you visualize it? "
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"you" cant do anything
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Reply from tegramon
Mar.10.2008
05:07PM EDT
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Found the answer in another guide, thanks anyway. |
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Reply from ______
Mar.10.2008
05:13PM EDT
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Quote: " Quote: "Do you feel stupid? In comparison with what?"
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I just asked a simple question. I do not compare myself with others. Each has his own path layed before him. That is what I know. Now ... in the Practice section of this webpage, there lay's a PDF with a guide of Zezen. There writes that the second exercise is to follow your breath with your mind eye. That was my problem, you visualize it? "
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Should simple questions, problems, have simple answers? I don't know. Other than to say that your question is your answer. I'm aware of the exercise, it's an exercise in attention, one can place attention in anything, anywhere, in particular, in general; it's an exercise to quieten mental processes, but no, I don't visualise breath. Being aware, one can watch breath and see it. |
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Reply from tegramon
Mar.10.2008
08:08PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "
Quote: "Do you feel stupid? In comparison with what?"
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I just asked a simple question. I do not compare myself with others. Each has his own path layed before him. That is what I know. Now ... in the Practice section of this webpage, there lay's a PDF with a guide of Zezen. There writes that the second exercise is to follow your breath with your mind eye. That was my problem, you visualize it?
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Should simple questions, problems, have simple answers? I don't know. Other than to say that your question is your answer. I'm aware of the exercise, it's an exercise in attention, one can place attention in anything, anywhere, in particular, in general; it's an exercise to quieten mental processes, but no, I don't visualise breath. Being aware, one can watch breath and see it. "
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Should simple questions, problems, have simple answers? I don't know. Other than to say that your question is your answer. I'm aware of the exercise, it's an exercise in attention, one can place attention in anything, anywhere, in particular, in general; it's an exercise to quieten mental processes, but no, I don't visualise breath. Being aware, one can watch breath and see it. "
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Would not had been easier to say this from the start? |
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Reply from shayne
Mar.10.2008
09:53PM EDT
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you dont visulize it. you just simply follow the incoming and outgoing breaths. |
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Reply from asheera
Mar.15.2008
07:28AM EDT
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Some say you should breath in through the nose, and out through the mouth. The idea is to get all the oxygen you can through the nose, and breath out the co2 through the mouth.
But that's too much movement for me.
I breath in slowly and gently through the nose, and exhale quickly through the nose.
I say breathe in like the gazelle that is hiding in the brush, and out like the tiger that is hunting it.
Shayne would say, "It dunt matter how. Jus pay attention." And he's right. Forget everything else, drop everything else, and concentrate completely on your breathing until there is nothing else, until you are your breath. |
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Reply from ______
Mar.15.2008
09:08AM EDT
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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.15.2008
05:57PM EDT
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Reply from Snibbler
Mar.16.2008
01:47AM EDT
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Ouch.. That gotta hurt!:) |
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Reply from shayne
Mar.16.2008
02:12AM EDT
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Quote: "
Some say you should breath in through the nose, and out through the mouth. The idea is to get all the oxygen you can through the nose, and breath out the co2 through the mouth.
But that's too much movement for me.
I breath in slowly and gently through the nose, and exhale quickly through the nose.
I say breathe in like the gazelle that is hiding in the brush, and out like the tiger that is hunting it.
Shayne would say, "It dunt matter how. Jus pay attention." And he's right. Forget everything else, drop everything else, and concentrate completely on your breathing until there is nothing else, until you are your breath.
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lets NOT make fun of my spelling ok. |
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Reply from lehish
Mar.16.2008
05:45AM EDT
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Quote: "Ouch.. That gotta hurt!:) "
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lololol |
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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.16.2008
08:51AM EDT
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Wings Baby!!! |
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