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vertical line Posted on Mar.10.2008 @ 10:19PM EDT by shayne

i had a out of body experience while living with my mother. ive asked her quite a few times if she lied or not. she dont want to talk about it.

seems i left my body and had a encounter by opening doors and running down a flight of stairs.

freaked my mother out for days.

im just here to say.

the soul exists if nothing else. i dont know much if their is a god or not.

the ultimate reality is YOU!


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Reply from boopoom
Mar.12.2008
10:41PM EDT 
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: )    "the ultimate reality is YOU!"

love, boopoom

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Mar.12.2008
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: )    "the ultimate reality is YOU!"

love, boopoom

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good you see this boopoom.

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Mar.12.2008
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Mar.12.2008
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Mar.12.2008
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Mar.12.2008
11:24PM EDT 
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huh. i quess that could happen.

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.12.2008
11:26PM EDT 
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vertical line i remember the dream state that would always push me out of bed though

that all stopped in my early teens
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Mar.12.2008
11:27PM EDT 
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Quote: "i remember the dream state that would always push me out of bed though

that all stopped in my early teens
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thats good it did.

i astral traveled alot as a youngster. was weird.

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.12.2008
11:33PM EDT 
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vertical line there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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Reply from A_Pict
Mar.13.2008
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vertical line I don't remember much about my dreams - Most of the time, I wake up not being aware of having dreamed anything...

The dreams I do remember usually involve an object like a flowerpot or something - something I hadn't seen before. Then, a few days later, I actually see that object somewhere and I'm like, 'Hey, I saw that in a dream' and my wife looks at me like I'm nuts...

I know not what the significance of those dreams are. They're just dreams...

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Mar.13.2008
08:49PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Mar.13.2008
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Mar.13.2008
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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oh yeah..........and what was that?

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Mar.13.2008
10:42PM EDT 
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the self we have control over.

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oh yeah..........and what was that?

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a circle?
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Mar.13.2008
10:44PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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oh yeah..........and what was that?

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a circle?
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a circle?
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you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

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Mar.13.2008
10:46PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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oh yeah..........and what was that?

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a circle?
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a circle?
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you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
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Mar.13.2008
11:00PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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oh yeah..........and what was that?

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a circle?
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a circle?
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you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
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you dont make no sense john.

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Mar.13.2008
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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forth

back

Forth
"
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"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

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forth

back

Forth
"
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oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
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a circle?
"
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"
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a circle?
"
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you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
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"
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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
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you dont make no sense john.

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Seeing is sense enough.
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Reply from shayne
Mar.13.2008
11:05PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
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the self we have control over.

"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
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you dont make no sense john.

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Seeing is sense enough.
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"
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Seeing is sense enough.
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one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

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Mar.13.2008
11:08PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
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the self we have control over.

"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
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Seeing is sense enough.
"
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"
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Seeing is sense enough.
"
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one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
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One sees through the senses
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One sees through the senses
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true.

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Mar.13.2008
11:08PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
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the self we have control over.

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
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Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
.........

One sees through the senses
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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.13.2008
11:14PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "

Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
.........

the self we have control over.

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

true.

"
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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
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Mar.13.2008
11:15PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
.........

the self we have control over.

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

true.

"
.........

Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
"
.........

"
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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
"
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ummmmmmmmmmmm......huh?

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Mar.13.2008
11:18PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
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the self we have control over.

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
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"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
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oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

true.

"
.........

Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
"
.........

"
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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
"
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ummmmmmmmmmmm......huh?

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no

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Mar.13.2008
11:19PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
.........

the self we have control over.

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

true.

"
.........

Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
"
.........

"
.........

Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
"
.........

ummmmmmmmmmmm......huh?

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no
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no
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no what john?

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Reply from Woodsman
Mar.13.2008
11:21PM EDT 
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

"
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the self we have control over.

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

"
.........

Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

forth

back

Forth
"
.........

oh yeah..........and what was that?

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

"
.........

a circle?
"
.........

you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

"
.........

uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
"
.........

you dont make no sense john.

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

"
.........

Seeing is sense enough.
"
.........

one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

"
.........

One sees through the senses
"
.........

true.

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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
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ummmmmmmmmmmm......huh?

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no
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no
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no what john?

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no is just no
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Mar.13.2008
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Quote: "there's so much we really have no control over, that's why for me I have to pay close attention to everything :  )  except spelling, and a bunch of other stuff I'm no good at

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the self we have control over.

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

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Today I was just watchin', and feelin' somethin' kinda... connected.

Back

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oh yeah..........and what was that?

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a circle?
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a circle?
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you question what you where experiencing?

was it a circle or no?

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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

Oh shit! Where are my glasses?!
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uh huh, mostly eyes, just the looks, or more so, not

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you dont make no sense john.

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Seeing is sense enough.
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Seeing is sense enough.
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one can see without eyes. the minds eye ( the attention ) is the guiding point.

seeing.

hearing.

sensing.

touching.

all the senses come into play.

eyesight is not enoufe.

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One sees through the senses
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One sees through the senses
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true.

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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
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Without beginning, or ending. The thought is not the vehicle, but the body is, without  it.
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ummmmmmmmmmmm......huh?

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no
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no
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no what john?

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no is just no
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no is just no
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whatever john.

go meditate.

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Mar.13.2008
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Mar.13.2008
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you make no sense.

thinking is ok.

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Mar.13.2008
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you make no sense.

thinking is ok.

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meditating is not thinking
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Mar.13.2008
11:32PM EDT 
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Mar.13.2008
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you make no sense.

thinking is ok.

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meditating is not thinking
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meditating is not thinking
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thoughts arise. we neither surpress or endorse such thoughts. they come and go.

we pay attention to our breathing in meditation. this is it. this is all. their is nothing to get. nothing to understand except the life youve always lived.

their is NOTHING wrong with thinking.

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Mar.13.2008
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you make no sense.

thinking is ok.

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meditating is not thinking
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meditating is not thinking
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thoughts arise. we neither surpress or endorse such thoughts. they come and go.

we pay attention to our breathing in meditation. this is it. this is all. their is nothing to get. nothing to understand except the life youve always lived.

their is NOTHING wrong with thinking.

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there is nothing wrong

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Mar.14.2008
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Mar.14.2008
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I talk in a strange language in my sleep.  My ex's were all going to put a tape recorder by the bed so that I could hear it too, but we never got around to it.

My Mom came into my room once when I was a kid, and she said I propped up on one elbow and talked for about 20 minutes in a strange language.  She said she thought it sounded Asian, but she couldn't really tell.

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My brother got into one of my dreams once.  I didn't like that, which pleased him no end, since he is an older brother.

But then I realized that he couldn't get there unless Buddha put him there, so I accepted it and asked him if there was anywhere that he would like to go, or anything he would like to see.  Given his bent for history, I thought he might like to go see the games at the Colloseum, or witness the crucifixion.

Then he got scared and woke up.  So I woke up too, and noted the time and date.

About a week later I was visiting him, and congratulated him on getting into one of my dreams.  He said, "You mean that shit really happened?!"  We compared notes on the time and date and they matched.

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Mar.14.2008
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My brother got into one of my dreams once.  I didn't like that, which pleased him no end, since he is an older brother.

But then I realized that he couldn't get there unless Buddha put him there, so I accepted it and asked him if there was anywhere that he would like to go, or anything he would like to see.  Given his bent for history, I thought he might like to go see the games at the Colloseum, or witness the crucifixion.

Then he got scared and woke up.  So I woke up too, and noted the time and date.

About a week later I was visiting him, and congratulated him on getting into one of my dreams.  He said, "You mean that shit really happened?!"  We compared notes on the time and date and they matched.

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i wont say no to that.

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Mar.14.2008
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My brother got into one of my dreams once.  I didn't like that, which pleased him no end, since he is an older brother.

But then I realized that he couldn't get there unless Buddha put him there, so I accepted it and asked him if there was anywhere that he would like to go, or anything he would like to see.  Given his bent for history, I thought he might like to go see the games at the Colloseum, or witness the crucifixion.

Then he got scared and woke up.  So I woke up too, and noted the time and date.

About a week later I was visiting him, and congratulated him on getting into one of my dreams.  He said, "You mean that shit really happened?!"  We compared notes on the time and date and they matched.

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unless buddha put him there eh?

are you AFRAID to be tne next buddha? the next jesus? the next muhmeed?

why do you RELY on another?

your young to me don.

im a unique being.

why cant you be?

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