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  Posted on Sep.11.2009 @ 10:04PM EDT by chontri
Once the brahmin Janussoni approached the Buddha... and spoke to him thus:

"It is said, Master Gotama, 'Nibbana is directly visible.' In what way, Master
Gotama, is Nibbana... continue...

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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: PIN THE TAIL ON THE DONKEY
vertical line Posted on Mar.18.2008 @ 08:49AM EDT by asheera

I'm not here to play pin the tail on the donkey.

Who is it?  Where is it?  What is it?  How old is it?

This is all about trying to figure out what the 'real reality'. 

What makes you think there is one?  Because logic dictates there must be?

Screw logic.  Logic is only good in this 3d plane of the universe.  There are more planes than any of us can imagine, and none of them are reality.

It is what it is.  It is being what it is being.  When you are awake, this is reality.  When you are dreaming, that is reality.  When you are in another plane of existence, that is reality.  If you have pain, that is reality, even if imagined.  If you have joy, that is reality, even if delusional.

What is it to say even that Buddha is reality?  What is Buddha, except whatever it is being at the moment.  And that is not true either, it just points in that direction....

Whether you want to pin Buddha down to something or nothing, you can't.

So put away the blindfolds and sharp tacks, and attach to nothing, including nothing.


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Reply from glorymind
Mar.18.2008
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vertical line This and that.

http://www.seekingfire.com/koan.html

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Mar.18.2008
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vertical line There is nothing to find, this you have found.
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Reply from 9999999
Mar.18.2008
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vertical line lots of stuff about different, higher/lower states of consciousness...

simple though, actually!

"you" either know, or "you" don't ~~

all ok anyway; whether know or not  : )

no need for anything:
- posting on forum
- going to the caves, mountains, jungles
- studying of any kind
- meditating of any kind
- correcting behavior of any kind
- renouncing of any kind
no need period (.)






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Mar.18.2008
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Reply from ______
Mar.18.2008
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vertical line It can't be experienced.  Whatever it is, whatever you want to call it, it can't be experienced. Whatever you know of the unknown, whatever your experience of it, isn't the unknown, because it has become part of your knowledge.  
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Reply from shayne
Mar.18.2008
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more planes?

i like this world.

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attaching to nothing is the the key.

ones attention must not stop nowhere.

attach to nothing.

the minds eye is free.

keep it free.

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Reply from shayne
Mar.18.2008
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vertical line logic is good. their is nothing wrong with logic. it is PART of the human condtion.
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Mar.18.2008
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vertical line real reality is right in front of your eyes.
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Mar.18.2008
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vertical line dons imagination has gotten the best of him.
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Mar.18.2008
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Quote: "Hee-Haw!"
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hell be pissed about that one.

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even IF their is other planes of existance this one counts the most.

THIS holy life is meant to be lived.

this is NO battlegrounds between satan and god.

even if it were.....i dont partake.

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Go ahead, I'll wait... : 
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Quote: "Praise the Lord, on a shit pile!

Go ahead, I'll wait... : 
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what are ya waiting for johny?

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Mar.19.2008
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Not pissed.  I love you, brother.

I have arms and legs, and an infinite number of planes of existence to travel, Now.

Just Now.  Maybe nothing in a second or two, or anything else imaginable.  I can shift that fast.  Can you?  I have no reality to cling to, just what it is....   It is what it is, and it will be what it will be.  Its not for me to second guess.

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Quote: "Buckaroo!"
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Another Brit who went to the Saturday Matinee westerns.

I've been on the back of a bucking horse more than once, and drawn and hit five targets in a row with my sixgun.  Then I changed targets and did it again.

So there.

But I can't hit didly with my bow and arrows yet.  Don't tell my Indian friends, at the Casino.

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Hee-Haw!
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Not pissed.  I love you, brother.

I have arms and legs, and an infinite number of planes of existence to travel, Now.

Just Now.  Maybe nothing in a second or two, or anything else imaginable.  I can shift that fast.  Can you?  I have no reality to cling to, just what it is....   It is what it is, and it will be what it will be.  Its not for me to second guess.

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this reality counts the most.

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Not pissed.  I love you, brother.

I have arms and legs, and an infinite number of planes of existence to travel, Now.

Just Now.  Maybe nothing in a second or two, or anything else imaginable.  I can shift that fast.  Can you?  I have no reality to cling to, just what it is....   It is what it is, and it will be what it will be.  Its not for me to second guess.

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this reality counts the most.

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i dont know if i love you. haha. i like you. you make it interesting here on zenguide even though i think your half wrong.

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Not pissed.  I love you, brother.

I have arms and legs, and an infinite number of planes of existence to travel, Now.

Just Now.  Maybe nothing in a second or two, or anything else imaginable.  I can shift that fast.  Can you?  I have no reality to cling to, just what it is....   It is what it is, and it will be what it will be.  Its not for me to second guess.

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i dont know if i love you. haha. i like you. you make it interesting here on zenguide even though i think your half wrong.

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Oh no, no, no !!  I'm completely wrong.  But then I know there isn't a right or a wrong, so it doesn't matter.

Even in this reality, change is constant.  Its never the same place two seconds in a row, taken as a whole.

Atoms are constantly changing into different kinds of atoms and combining to make different kinds of molecules.  Just look at your hand and imagine how many different things those atoms have been in the past.  Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, and then what?

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Quote: "Eh? Buckaroo is a game - you know you keep loading stuff on to a plastic representation of a mule it until the mule chucks it all off and everybody shouts, 'Budkaroo!. What's a Brit?

Hee-Haw!
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Oh, sorry.

Terms like balderdash, poppycock, and 'banging on about',  led me to believe that you are from the Brittish Isles, or at least some part of the Empire.

I'm reminded of something Cecil Rhodes said back in the 1850's, or thereabouts, that the British Empire should have the foremost goal to reincorporate the United States because with that addition global domination would be unquestionable.

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Not pissed.  I love you, brother.

I have arms and legs, and an infinite number of planes of existence to travel, Now.

Just Now.  Maybe nothing in a second or two, or anything else imaginable.  I can shift that fast.  Can you?  I have no reality to cling to, just what it is....   It is what it is, and it will be what it will be.  Its not for me to second guess.

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this reality counts the most.

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i dont know if i love you. haha. i like you. you make it interesting here on zenguide even though i think your half wrong.

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Oh no, no, no !!  I'm completely wrong.  But then I know there isn't a right or a wrong, so it doesn't matter.

Even in this reality, change is constant.  Its never the same place two seconds in a row, taken as a whole.

Atoms are constantly changing into different kinds of atoms and combining to make different kinds of molecules.  Just look at your hand and imagine how many different things those atoms have been in the past.  Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, and then what?

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theirs a right and a wrong.

the differance being seeing it is it transpires.

constant change.

ive said this before.

metaphyiscal insight comes to me and says ---

wisdom is constantly changing. real wisdom is seeing things as they are.

this suchness.

wisdom is not to be held but seen.

course this is just my take on things.

gassho

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Oh, sorry.

Terms like balderdash, poppycock, and 'banging on about',  led me to believe that you are from the Brittish Isles, or at least some part of the Empire.

I'm reminded of something Cecil Rhodes said back in the 1850's, or thereabouts, that the British Empire should have the foremost goal to reincorporate the United States because with that addition global domination would be unquestionable.

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