P'ang Yun (740-808) was a well known Chinese Zen Layman.
He was once selling bamboo baskets. Coming down off the a bridge, he stumbled and fell.
When Ling-chao saw this she ran to her father's side and threw herself down.
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Posted on May.13.2008 @ 04:24AM EDTby9999999
Damn the body that depends on the soul and damn the soul that depends on the body.
Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever
has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy.
If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If
you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will]
kill you.
Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the
outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and
when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will
not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an
eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in
place of an image, then you will enter
Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death.
Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being.
you heard that I suffered; yet I did not suffer: that I suffered not; yet I did suffer: that I was pierced; yet was I not smitten: that I was hanged; yet I was not hanged: that blood flowed from me; yet it did not flow: and in a word the things they say about me I had not, and the things they do not say those I suffered.
now what they are I will riddle for you; for I know that you will understand
The Door is the Door of the Two in One, the state of equilibrium of the opposites which opens out into the all-embracing consciousness and understanding of all oppositions.
"Damn the body that depends on the soul and damn the soul that depends on the body."
It has a nice ring to it, but I don't know if I get it. How does the body depend? How does the soul depend? I mean, it doesn't seem to have much practicality (like, I don't think of [my] problems (of dependency, even) in terms of a soul or body), and it doesn't seem to have the 'universality' factor you see in Koans.
"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
Whoever has discovered the body invented medicine, ...etc. Are they... detached from the true nature? As if there's any way to attach.
"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
Those who know all, know how to fix stuff up for themselves.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."
Intestines? Draw forth, take in. You don't have anything. Even in a pragmatic sense, it sounds stupid. If we're looking for the practical (anything that can can be lacking), we better read about cognitive psychology.
"When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]"
So... what's the put in place stuff? Anything that's done will necessarily be dualistic.
Here's a good one from the bible:
Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. (Ezekiel 23:19-20)
When you make the two one, and when you make the inner as the outer and the outer as the inner, and the above as the below, and when you make the male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female...then shall you enter the kingdom. ~ ~ ~
Man, if he lives with the mind can never be innocent - and only in innocence does the divine descend or do you ascend to the divine. Innocence is the door. ~Osho
You may be on to something, apparently the mathematics describing matter is time-symmetric. Which, I guess, might only imply probabilistic determinism.
Quote: "All of the above looks and sounds "stupid" when filtered through the mind prism. " .........
mind prism? ok...........
no such thing as no mind.
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Merely conceptual. Mind as splitter into 1, 2, 3, 4 where's the key what's the door? hey nonny no yes no, 5,6, what no fix? 7,8, it's too late, 9,10 let's start again.
Man, if he lives with the mind can never be innocent - and only in innocence does the divine descend or do you ascend to the divine. Innocence is the door. ~Osho" .........
Where'd dude go? Duh, I can spare you a few minutes in between letters, and a fraud/corruption case which concerns nefarious goings on between two councils and a waste-management company operating without the requisite planning approval and waste-disposal licences wrongly issued by an environment agency that I'm working on - individuals may be further implicated on charges of wilful incompetence which as anybody knows is the worse kind of corruption going when it comes to public bodies splashing around public moneys. Bitta late releef like y'know - there's gravy if you want it. Yours as ever, the funky monkey.
When I'm not bringing fraud and corruption cases I'm working for animal welfare animal rights, I'm working with the animals playing animal with the animals. And when that's not happening I'm working in out in the garden digging me, digging the animals, digging, hoeing, sowing, the cattle are lowing, feeding, watering, lovey-dove doveing, coo-coo-cooing gizakiss, planting, grafting, granting and grunting; when that's not happening am playing out in the garden on the edge of campaigns within campaigns within campaigns because I'm not here, there or anywhere doing it. It just flows, unhindered, unfractured, a river to m'people. Alright?
I am nobody whose see's somebody uz somebody chooses their nobody news within as without, more is less, when to be, looked at, those, terrible, them! two's (whoah baby) but not choose by one lose on booze here's a little ruse or cake muse an edible clues forget it, if trues is not worth it, a cruise (twit or tweet?) the sky's out, or is them... blues?
Quote: "When I'm not bringing fraud and corruption cases I'm working for animal welfare animal rights, I'm working with the animals playing animal with the animals. And when that's not happening I'm working in out in the garden digging me, digging the animals, digging, hoeing, sowing, the cattle are lowing, feeding, watering, lovey-dove doveing, coo-coo-cooing gizakiss, planting, grafting, granting and grunting; when that's not happening am playing out in the garden on the edge of campaigns within campaigns within campaigns because I'm not here, there or anywhere doing it. It just flows, unhindered, unfractured, a river to m'people. Alright?
Man, if he lives with the mind can never be innocent - and only in innocence does the divine descend or do you ascend to the divine. Innocence is the door. ~Osho" .........
Man, if he lives with the mind can never be innocent - and only in innocence does the divine descend or do you ascend to the divine. Innocence is the door. ~Osho" .........
I remember when I remember I remember when I lost my mind There was something so pleasant about that place Even your emotions have an echo In so much space
And when you're out there without care Yeah I was out of touch But it wasn't because I didn't know enough I just knew too much
Does that make me crazy? Does that make me crazy? Does that make me crazy? Possible
And I hope that you are having the time of your life But think twice Thats my only advice
Come on now, who do you, who do you, who do you, who do you think you are? Ha ha ha, bless your soul You really think you're in control?
Well I think you're crazy I think you're crazy I think you're crazy Just like me My heros had the heart To lose their lives out on a limb And all I remember Is thinking, I want to be like them
Ever since I was little Ever since I was little It looked like fun And it's no coincidence I've come And I can die when I'm done
Man, if he lives with the mind can never be innocent - and only in innocence does the divine descend or do you ascend to the divine. Innocence is the door. ~Osho" .........
radio flips the skip search button random selecter the police are singing every breath you take I'll be watching you look at the clock and wake two twenty-two and ticks a tock Oh God he's still
here she thought. She tried to roll up the window of the car between here desperate attempts to start the car. "Come aan, coomee aaaan...!" Djhiiiiiiiiiii clonk.... Djhiiiii clonk... "Noooo, pleaseGodpleaseGodpleaseGodhelpmenow...Start dammit!" Djhiiiiiiiiiii clonk.... Djhiiiii clonk...Djhii clonk.. Suddenly, she heard a sound that sent chills down her spine and a cold hard lump in her stomach...
Yeah, it was made for you to munch and suck on, thereby providing the recommended daily calcium and trace mineral allowance intake to output ratio ration. Any more questions?