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  Shih-tou Hsi-chien (700-790) was a very well known Chinese Ch'an master.
As a young monk, he was one of the disciples of the Sixth Patriarch Hui-neng.
After Hui-neng passed away, Shih-tou continued his pilgrimage...
He paid a vist... continue...

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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: FOCUS AND ATTENTION ARE FALSE
vertical line Posted on May.22.2008 @ 05:12PM EDT by 9999999
they are both thought-induced and imagined.

tap your finger on the table and "focus" or "be attentive" to/on it. 

investigate this:
- is perception anywhere else (sight/ sound / other sensations) actually decreased at all and is the perception of the finger actually increased?




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Reply from 9999999
May.22.2008
05:16PM EDT 
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vertical line you can't say anything about anything without thinking about it

and thought is imagined and you imagine you have thought

and you are imagined by your imagined thought

investigate how this process starts
investigate how separation appears to occur
investigate if it is even real in the first place
investigate the investigator
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Reply from 9999999
May.22.2008
05:19PM EDT 
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vertical line "all problems" "come from" "you"

i dont understand
he doesnt understand so i'll make him understand
he doesnt believe what i believe
he isnt living his life the way he should be
i have to this
i want what he has
he stole my money
he beat my kids
i want what he has
if only i had THIS then i'd be happy
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.22.2008
05:35PM EDT 
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well......

first ya start tapping with one finger... then without thinking.. pretty soon two are tapping on the desk

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Reply from Snibbler
May.22.2008
06:20PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "you can't say anything about anything without thinking about it

and thought is imagined and you imagine you have thought

and you are imagined by your imagined thought

investigate how this process starts
investigate how separation appears to occur
investigate if it is even real in the first place
investigate the investigator
"
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Observe..
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Reply from shayne
May.22.2008
06:35PM EDT 
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May.22.2008
06:36PM EDT 
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vertical line anapanasati - mindfulness of in and out breathing
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May.22.2008
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vertical line Bhavana - mental culture, development, the control and evolution of the mind, meditation .
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May.22.2008
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vertical line ekaggata - one-pointedness (of mind) concentration
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May.22.2008
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vertical line Zen - meditative absorption in which all dualistic distinctions are eliminated. .
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May.22.2008
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vertical line zazen - sitting meditation, taught in Zen as the most direct way to awakening..
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May.22.2008
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vertical line Before you developed no mind you had a mind. this no mind is attention deficit disorder. even babies have a mind. before you "locked" unto this principle of no mind the mind was there. be careful you follow no isms people.
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May.22.2008
06:58PM EDT 
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I am your master and i am your teacher asura.

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May.22.2008
07:02PM EDT 
vertical line Who's a pretty boy then?  Pretty boy! Pretty boy! Pretty BowAAAAAAkkk!!
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May.22.2008
07:15PM EDT 
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vertical line "ya fool me cant get fooled again!"
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May.22.2008
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vertical line you fooled yourself.
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May.22.2008
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vertical line Is there a point to all this?..
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May.22.2008
07:24PM EDT 
vertical line Y'hear that?  Y'fueled yoursell.
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May.22.2008
07:26PM EDT 
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vertical line wut in tarnation
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May.23.2008
09:42AM EDT 
vertical line Undercooked, underdone, underdeveloped and under there. 
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May.23.2008
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asura - demon, evil spirit.

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May.23.2008
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vertical line Possession is 9 tenths of your law. 
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May.23.2008
06:44PM EDT 
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Hocus focus pocus attention isn't there it went from here with the advice following not to follow isms [people] because no thing as no mind which is attention deficit disorder with wisdom appearing like a quacking Osho in the same place only different with personal experience terms like goof disorder and Sanskrit terms such as asura peppered out the pot atchoo words belonging to isms like zenism, words heard back from someone, read in a book, website, film, tv media, video game back of a bus descriptive drama forward foreword forewarns word idea word image projected applying outside where they are there they are here the evil spirits demons the power-suck-hungry deities assailing within from without yodel eey ay ohhh
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May.23.2008
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vertical line Whatever it is, doesn't have to be.
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May.23.2008
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Quote: "BowAAAAAAkkk!!"
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hahhahah

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May.24.2008
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vertical line it's spelled Bwwooaakkk!
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May.24.2008
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vertical line Only early risers can spell Bwwooaakkk! right?
right?

Write it?

Ah no, kiss me before I go.
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May.24.2008
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hehe spelling is ok

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May.24.2008
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vertical line If that's a kiss, I'd need your lips refurbished. 
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May.24.2008
07:19PM EDT 
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Quote: "If that's a kiss, I'd need your lips refurbished.  "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZ6iKScxa4 

;)

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May.24.2008
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vertical line kiss from a rose....
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Reply from poor monk
Jun.25.2008
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vertical line I am sorry, I wasn't paying attention.
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Jun.25.2008
02:02PM EDT 
vertical line I`ll update you! See,  jthabuddHA had found a new cure for boredom, contemplating! And suggested pondering on toughts abouth you`re finger and this phantom menace of an awarness or something like that. Annyway sounds more booring than even just sitting to me, so I don`t think you`re missing out:)
Attention defecit disorderorsomethinglikethat?..:)
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Jun.27.2008
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vertical line sitting by yourself can be very boring, but generally it's worse if you don't like who you're
doing it with.
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Jul.05.2008
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Quote: "I am sorry, I wasn't paying attention. "
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paying attention is of the utmost importance.

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Jul.05.2008
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Jul.18.2008
04:33PM EDT 
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vertical line THIS is a prime example of a false belief.
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Jul.18.2008
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vertical line Prime beef - it all starts and ends with you kid.
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Jul.18.2008
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vertical line no kid here.
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Jul.18.2008
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vertical line Dik Dik.
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