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Posted on May.23.2008 @ 11:37AM EDT by shayne
poke in the eye.
gliberish smirirish.
THIS IS WISDOM?
i think not.
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Reply from ______
May.23.2008
11:41AM EDT
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I can see that yes. Perhaps it's because you think you aren't capable. |
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Reply from shayne
May.23.2008
11:42AM EDT
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its not wisdom. im sorry your a goof. |
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Reply from ______
May.23.2008
11:44AM EDT
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What's "wisdom"? I don't recall mentioning the word. |
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Reply from shayne
May.23.2008
11:46AM EDT
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stay on topic...........or cant you? |
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Reply from ______
May.23.2008
11:49AM EDT
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Your syntax doesn't seem to be helping you to say what 'wisdom' is not, so I'm waiting here with bated breath to hear you say what 'wisdom' is. |
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Reply from shayne
May.23.2008
11:51AM EDT
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wisdom is seeing things as they are and as the appear in the moment. wisdom is everchanging. and limitless. |
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Reply from 9999999
May.23.2008
05:54PM EDT
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Reply from Woodsman
May.23.2008
05:59PM EDT
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things we fear, seeing |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.23.2008
06:40PM EDT
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Quote: "things we fear, seeing " .........
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Reply from ______
May.23.2008
06:49PM EDT
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What things? What things do we fear seeing? Tell me what things you fear seeing and leave we out of it. |
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Reply from ______
May.23.2008
06:51PM EDT
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And then tell me something else. Tell me some more lies. And while you're at it, explain the response mechanism in communication. That most probably will be more lies then. Unless there's some truth knocking about somewhere. |
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Reply from lehish
May.23.2008
07:10PM EDT
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Quote: "What things? What things do we fear seeing? Tell me what things you fear seeing and leave we out of it. " .........
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Reply from 9999999
May.23.2008
07:23PM EDT
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Quote: "And then tell me something else. Tell me some more lies. And while you're at it, explain the response mechanism in communication. That most probably will be more lies then. Unless there's some truth knocking about somewhere." .........
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.23.2008
07:39PM EDT
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was afraid Woodsman took "greedy" remark personally, wanted to see him on the board |
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Reply from lehish
May.23.2008
09:08PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "And then tell me something else. Tell me some more lies. And while you're at it, explain the response mechanism in communication. That most probably will be more lies then. Unless there's some truth knocking about somewhere." .........
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
01:35AM EDT
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Quote: "was afraid Woodsman took "greedy" remark personally, wanted to see him on the board" .........
Oh! My pride! Oh!
Now I can quit!
No more pride!
Woo Hoo!!!
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
06:40PM EDT
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? hahahaha |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
08:06PM EDT
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beat that |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
08:37PM EDT
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That is not being very Buddha, like, there is no other, no other one. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
09:59PM EDT
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like no other ! disagree? |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
10:20PM EDT
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finer, closer to the truth, the comparisons fade, into nothingness
there, out of that, I am
one
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
10:24PM EDT
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Quote: "finer, closer to the truth, the comparisons fade, into nothingness
there, out of that, I am
one " .........
how can you say this... when the words are mixed and everyone is speaking them and there are no thoughts your own and presenses come and go and even though you cannot tell who is that does or maybe you can sometimes... but still you cry,, and in the night footsteps and things falling to the floor.. no one there..so you pick up the falling things and go back to bed... I can no longer speak of things.. we all do together
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
10:25PM EDT
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"fine" |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
10:28PM EDT
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Woodsman.. how can you trust your words.. when they may notbe even yours? do you have to? |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
10:29PM EDT
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goodness sakes, just look at the sky |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
10:29PM EDT
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"comparisons" |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
10:30PM EDT
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plus, I was loosely quoting Pema, from like 20 years ago |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
10:31PM EDT
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
10:33PM EDT
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Wrong!
Right?
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
10:34PM EDT
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Reply from Woodsman
May.24.2008
10:36PM EDT
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have a peaceful night Lynnoh |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.24.2008
11:58PM EDT
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Quote: "have a peaceful night Lynnoh " .........
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Reply from Woodsman
May.25.2008
05:20AM EDT
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I ain't alway wong. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.25.2008
10:02AM EDT
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I don't know? if I understand what you've written even though one might say misspelled... hey, haven't we had this conversation before? hmmm |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.25.2008
11:22AM EDT
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Look at it this way Lynnoh, nothing that I write is capable of waking anybody up, where one wakes up in one's own life, in one's body each day, or night. The experiences of awakening may defy expression, or even if they are pronounced in detail they are not the experience as achievement, or status symbol. Because when you think of habits that you or I "own", status is one that we frequently delude ourselves over, by living in the past, or in better times maybe when we were were young... drug or alcohol abuse is supportive of living in another realm of denial, yet not on the surface, it's all just a good time, and we frequently don't talk about the aftermath, addiction, violence, neglect, brain/body damage, self-destructive behavior patterns of "stinking thinking", the truth won't sell the vehicles of delusional/enlightenment. Enlightenment requires absolutely nothing. Don't even get me started on the computer as vehicle of destructive sedentary/enlightenment life style.
So, back to the land, I go out to face the garden again, and those carrots! That is more than I can write about, zzzzzzz.... plus I have to get off my lazy asses, or buttocks.
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Reply from ______
May.25.2008
12:03PM EDT
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This is the way I look at it. And so see it. But my name isn't Lynnoh so maybe there's a thing you fear to see in there - maybe, maybe not. If you can't or don't want to write about what you don't think you can express in either a flippant, profound or even pronounced detail using terms such as status symbols and achievenments on a machine you appear to use regularly but say you don't like, griping about a lifestyle you don't like but don't live, where enlightenment requires absolutely nothing, whatever that means, other than to be written about. If your thinking is stinking you out to the point where you think you can say don't get me started on this or that or the other and what this and that is the result of, or the cause of, then don't do it. It's simple and requires that you don't sit down at the computer in order to express your thought processes through the use of typed words. |
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May.25.2008
04:19PM EDT
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Quote: "Look at it this way Lynnoh, nothing that I write is capable of waking anybody up, where one wakes up in one's own life, in one's body each day, or night. The experiences of awakening may defy expression, or even if they are pronounced in detail they are not the experience as achievement, or status symbol. Because when you think of habits that you or I "own", status is one that we frequently delude ourselves over, by living in the past, or in better times maybe when we were were young... drug or alcohol abuse is supportive of living in another realm of denial, yet not on the surface, it's all just a good time, and we frequently don't talk about the aftermath, addiction, violence, neglect, brain/body damage, self-destructive behavior patterns of "stinking thinking", the truth won't sell the vehicles of delusional/enlightenment. Enlightenment requires absolutely nothing. Don't even get me started on the computer as vehicle of destructive sedentary/enlightenment life style.
So, back to the land, I go out to face the garden again, and those carrots! That is more than I can write about, zzzzzzz.... plus I have to get off my lazy asses, or buttocks. " .........
zenguide.com, one can read is authentic...I suppose it is not from any sort of... mmm... documentation of any sort.. impossible as it may be of course.. who would one say is awakened anyways, right? though the idea of ChonTri and where he might be and our last conversation (though we don't have any now I hear) popped up. or maybe dropped down |
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May.25.2008
04:21PM EDT
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Quote: "This is the way I look at it. And so see it. But my name isn't Lynnoh so maybe there's a thing you fear to see in there - maybe, maybe not. If you can't or don't want to write about what you don't think you can express in either a flippant, profound or even pronounced detail using terms such as status symbols and achievenments on a machine you appear to use regularly but say you don't like, griping about a lifestyle you don't like but don't live, where enlightenment requires absolutely nothing, whatever that means, other than to be written about. If your thinking is stinking you out to the point where you think you can say don't get me started on this or that or the other and what this and that is the result of, or the cause of, then don't do it. It's simple and requires that you don't sit down at the computer in order to express your thought processes through the use of typed words. " .........
to do or not do.... type on this thing that is |
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Reply from ______
May.25.2008
08:03PM EDT
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Whatever you do, you stop its happening. |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.25.2008
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Quote: "
Quote: "Look at it this way Lynnoh, nothing that I write is capable of waking anybody up, where one wakes up in one's own life, in one's body each day, or night. The experiences of awakening may defy expression, or even if they are pronounced in detail they are not the experience as achievement, or status symbol. Because when you think of habits that you or I "own", status is one that we frequently delude ourselves over, by living in the past, or in better times maybe when we were were young... drug or alcohol abuse is supportive of living in another realm of denial, yet not on the surface, it's all just a good time, and we frequently don't talk about the aftermath, addiction, violence, neglect, brain/body damage, self-destructive behavior patterns of "stinking thinking", the truth won't sell the vehicles of delusional/enlightenment. Enlightenment requires absolutely nothing. Don't even get me started on the computer as vehicle of destructive sedentary/enlightenment life style.
So, back to the land, I go out to face the garden again, and those carrots! That is more than I can write about, zzzzzzz.... plus I have to get off my lazy asses, or buttocks. " .........
zenguide.com, one can read is authentic...I suppose it is not from any sort of... mmm... documentation of any sort.. impossible as it may be of course.. who would one say is awakened anyways, right? though the idea of ChonTri and where he might be and our last conversation (though we don't have any now I hear) popped up. or maybe dropped down " .........
Awakening is not an end state. Consider the intelligence of children who are fully awake, continually confirmed with or without any other. And in the face of innocence, awakening blossoms as a parent looking at the child, in "seeing" innocence itself.
Some have turned awakening into a taboo achievement, It's not, either. But who am I to say? Nobody who has to make an impression on another's awakening. No person needed in the process of letting go, in the end.
The inexplicable aspect of enlightenment allows us to drop the occurrences by comparing one to another. Time after time, again and again, the simple motion of appreciation, of finding value where others turn away, and creating a place of silent awareness, just observing without having to say what one cannot tell or even need to put into words opens it.
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Reply from shayne
May.26.2008
04:58AM EDT
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so WHY dont you write this way instead of the normal gibberish you normally write. |
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Reply from Snibbler
May.26.2008
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WHY don't YOU write that way instead of the normal gibberish?.. :) |
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Reply from ______
May.26.2008
08:49AM EDT
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There is no centre. Even 'awakening' is an idea. The so-called 'awakened state' is just another thought pattern - the thought arises: 'I need to be awake' which one then attaches to and is given importance. This thought then becomes a difficulty. It isn't that you're not awake yet, it's simply that the belief arises that 'I need to be awake'. Even the idea of 'delusion' is delusion. There isn't even any 'timeless'. All this mental noise is trying to speak about the miracle, the indefinable, ineffable, that which cannot be captured by, through and with words. There's no option, no effort, no choice. Nothing personal. What it is, I don't know. I don't know what it is. |
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May.26.2008
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Quote: "so WHY dont you write this way instead of the normal gibberish you normally write." .........
It's like any form of expression, creative or otherwise (of empty vain youth based denial) it has it's faults. But are the faults me?.
The creative mode which arises in me follows a pattern, with the seasons, and along with the external changes, there are internal adjustments to adjust to, and express. If the expression is done with honesty and play it contains a kind of life spark, which contains a dimension beyond duty, or absolute right. The creative urge takes a leap into the unknown through a playfulness. But it changes, and has failure or incompletion to weigh the force behind the inspiration, which is all a surprise to me in fact.
The last idea come from my wife addressing my MM... Motor Mouth, or Monkey Mind, and I asked her to give me a sign when I do this, some kind of M&M reminder. But my part in the request for changing my patterns which annoy others takes on a surprising imagined image, to concretize the idea, to play with the change that will reduce the suffering caused my my mind.
So, the idea of taking my mind seriously, criticism seriously, follows a form, creates on a relationship to creating a form which unites ideas and feelings with objects in space.
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.26.2008
11:38AM EDT
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Reply from Snibbler
May.26.2008
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Njah.. Got any red?.. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.26.2008
11:42PM EDT
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Quote: "Njah.. Got any red?.. " .........
your favorite? |
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Reply from Snibbler
May.27.2008
03:45PM EDT
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Orange:) |
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Reply from ______
May.27.2008
05:18PM EDT
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What colour! |
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Reply from Snibbler
May.27.2008
06:29PM EDT
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Oh, Apple! |
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Reply from Woodsman
May.27.2008
06:47PM EDT
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Just covered the pear tree out back, may frost tonight. Off to the critically ill night again. Peace. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.27.2008
07:52PM EDT
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Quote: "Oh, Apple! " .........
OH! green.. oh did I feel that green ! oh wonderful... but not all the greens.. just that one ! :) oh! hahahaha what a tickle |
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.27.2008
07:53PM EDT
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Quote: "Just covered the pear tree out back, may frost tonight. Off to the critically ill night again. Peace. " .........
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