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  Ching Ch'ing, a Chinese Ch'an master, asked a monk:
-What is the sound outside?
The monk answered:
-That is the sound of rain.
The master said:
-Sentient beings are upside down, they lose themselves in pursuit of things.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: DROPPING THE NEGATIVE
vertical line Posted on May.26.2008 @ 06:43PM EDT by Woodsman
Is accompanied by the breath, as an alternative to monkey mind.
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Reply from shayne
May.26.2008
08:27PM EDT 
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vertical line what exactly is monkey mind according to you?
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May.26.2008
08:36PM EDT 
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vertical line ah!
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Reply from shayne
May.26.2008
08:37PM EDT 
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If monkey mind is the attention being insecure why not just call it insecurity.

Insecurity is the mind looking for something to focus on.

other then this this monkey mind is dumb.

and sometimes its ok to be angry.

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May.26.2008
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vertical line The " monkey mind " focuses on the breathing.
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May.26.2008
08:45PM EDT 
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and the minds eye focuses on the negative and this is like focusing on half the whole of reality.

reality is not negative only the person focusing on the negative.

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May.26.2008
09:33PM EDT 
vertical line Positive/negative: two extremes of a jelly.

To grasp the ungraspable one must first un-grasp one's grasp of the graspable. 
To drop the undroppable one must first un-drop one's drop of the droppable. 

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May.26.2008
09:45PM EDT 
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vertical line ummm.. it's been a rough day....
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May.26.2008
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vertical line Quote: "Positive/negative: two extremes of a jelly.

To grasp the ungraspable one must first un-grasp one's grasp of the graspable. 
To drop the undroppable one must first un-drop one's drop of the droppable. 

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thanks
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May.26.2008
10:28PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "what exactly is monkey mind according to you?"
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Don`t answer! I`ts a trick question!:
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May.26.2008
11:49PM EDT 
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Reply from ______
May.27.2008
08:39AM EDT 
vertical line Monkey Mind is the great pretender in a cheap suit; mind's imitating alternative to a doppelganger - it sits around red ochre, trying to warm itself. 
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May.27.2008
09:43AM EDT 
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vertical line i had to work last night, so I had to drop this MM here. not that I wanted to, i just had no choice, cuz, i don't live for myself only. now i have to take a shower to get off the bugs, eat and sleep, otherwise i'd leave my monkey mind here, and shayners will use it. can use it, i meant. MM WW... Momkey Minder Winkie Woodsbud
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May.27.2008
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vertical line cant explain it then. monkey mind is just crap someone made up.
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Reply from Woodsman
May.27.2008
10:17AM EDT 
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vertical line one who just can't let go of it
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May.27.2008
10:28AM EDT 
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vertical line NO john....im focused and stay on the topic unlike you.
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May.27.2008
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Quote: "i had to work last night, so I had to drop this MM here. not that I wanted to, i just had no choice, cuz, i don't live for myself only. now i have to take a shower to get off the bugs, eat and sleep, otherwise i'd leave my monkey mind here, and shayners will use it. can use it, i meant. MM WW... Momkey Minder Winkie Woodsbud "
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;)  only the other eye

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May.27.2008
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Quote: "Monkey Mind is the great pretender in a cheap suit; mind's imitating alternative to a doppelganger - it sits around red ochre, trying to warm itself. "
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re: the idea that there's a "Monkey Mind is the great pretender in a cheap suit; mind's imitating alternative to a doppelganger - it sits around red ochre, trying to warm itself."

> To grasp the ungraspable one must first un-grasp one's grasp of the graspable. <

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May.27.2008
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Quote: "cant explain it then. monkey mind is just crap someone made up."
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yes 'monkey mind ' is imagined, but what "someone" ? ;)

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May.27.2008
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Quote: "i had to work last night, so I had to drop this MM here. not that I wanted to, i just had no choice, cuz, i don&apos;t live for myself only. now i have to take a shower to get off the bugs, eat and sleep, otherwise i&apos;d leave my monkey mind here, and shayners will use it. can use it, i meant. MM WW... Momkey Minder Winkie Woodsbud "
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;)  only the other eye

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there never was

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May.27.2008
04:19PM EDT 
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May.27.2008
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vertical line Shayne, you're a good guy.
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May.27.2008
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vertical line I dropped eating junk food last night and today, after I got up.

When I take a shower, I turn the water on, let it get warm, splash my face and head, and turn off the shower and lather up, and turned off the lights, opened the shudders in the bathroom for outside light, and don't use the exhaust fan to air off the humidity. I'll be makin' a clothes line on the back deck.
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May.27.2008
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May.27.2008
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vertical line I picked them up, folded them, and put them in the closet.
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May.27.2008
08:40PM EDT 
vertical line I dropped my exhaust.
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May.27.2008
10:08PM EDT 
vertical line I restarted the car and put extra duck tape around the rubber hose just to make sure.
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May.27.2008
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Quote: "i had to work last night, so I had to drop this MM here. not that I wanted to, i just had no choice, cuz, i don&apos;t live for myself only. now i have to take a shower to get off the bugs, eat and sleep, otherwise i&apos;d leave my monkey mind here, and shayners will use it. can use it, i meant. MM WW... Momkey Minder Winkie Woodsbud "
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there never was what? the icon seen was winking with the other eye

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May.27.2008
11:19PM EDT 
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the negative..oh..

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Reply from Woodsman
May.28.2008
10:15AM EDT 
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vertical line tear drops, of gratitude

the negative becomes,

nothing
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May.28.2008
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May.28.2008
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instead of jealousy

becomes

just a picture

of the thought you are having

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May.28.2008
03:58PM EDT 
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vertical line fear, is not pushed out
in favor of another
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honesty allows the negative emotions
to be
uncovered
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Quote: "i had to work last night, so I had to drop this MM here. not that I wanted to, i just had no choice, cuz, i don&apos;t live for myself only. now i have to take a shower to get off the bugs, eat and sleep, otherwise i&apos;d leave my monkey mind here, and shayners will use it. can use it, i meant. MM WW... Momkey Minder Winkie Woodsbud "
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there never was what? the icon seen was winking with the other eye

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only if thought it was

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Reply from Woodsman
May.28.2008
07:20PM EDT 
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vertical line dropping the thought, "if only"
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May.28.2008
08:32PM EDT 
vertical line So what you saying there Jonnyboy? Gotta focus goofass! Ha ha ha
(Just stepping in for Shayne, he could not make it today)
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May.28.2008
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May.28.2008
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vertical line Shaynee who?

Oh yeah, oh yeah... like I know.
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May.28.2008
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vertical line Nope, thats his chinese brother (LOL LMAO Harrr... harrr.. ho ho ho ha hga he he he lol, ha ha he he ho ho... "snff"... ... he...      ... HAHAHOHEha ha ha he he ha ha  harrr harrr.. harrrrrrrrr....... )
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May.28.2008
10:21PM EDT 
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vertical line The negative only exists, when given away

After all negativity is given away, there is nothing left, but receiving.
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May.28.2008
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Quote: "dropping the thought, "if only" "
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not that interpretaton 

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May.28.2008
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Quote: "The negative only exists, when given away

After all negativity is given away, there is nothing left, but receiving.
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hahhhhhahaaha

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May.28.2008
11:45PM EDT 
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Quote: "dropping the thought, "if only" "
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not that interpretaton 

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interpretation?
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May.29.2008
05:18AM EDT 
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vertical line fine finer finest

find finder finding

dropping the conditions of comparison to any other

so that the source of enlightenment stems again from within one's own being and using each sound as one original
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May.29.2008
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and sometimes its ok to be angry.

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Lusty mind? Focus is lust.

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May.29.2008
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vertical line kurt kobain or however you spell his name was a druggy.
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Quote: "kurt kobain or however you spell his name was a druggy."
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Caffeine is a drug that affects the mind in a usually desireable way.

But if we're going for stereotypes, that he read Leonard Cohen (poetry) shows that he was somewhat of a patron of the arts.

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May.29.2008
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May.29.2008
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Quote: "heroin isnt the same as caffine."
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Yeah, the chemical structure is different.

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May.29.2008
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vertical line or thoughts can change our chemistry, energy, and we can bring others into change with our thoughts, even from miles, or years away

Oh yes!
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May.29.2008
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when on a treadmill one time. i thought........make my heart beat slower. and i ran and my heartrate stayed at 70 beats per minute. or something like that.

legs glot heavy though. haha.

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May.29.2008
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May.29.2008
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i quess goofball. seems you need to get a soul.

beep beep.

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May.29.2008
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May.29.2008
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hahaha.

whatever.

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May.29.2008
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vertical line breathing, is big

yeah, it will become a vehicle for flight

as all stress can be released through it, to every end, to everyone in need a relief of suffering
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