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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: MORE IS BETTER
vertical line Posted on May.28.2008 @ 04:59PM EDT by Woodsman
Less is worse.

Thinking.


Feeling.



Awareness of all,


the signs of awakening.

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May.28.2008
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May.28.2008
07:23PM EDT 
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vertical line 50 or signs

but more isn't enough

to calm the distraction

into naming them

plus, I am not in any number qualified to say


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May.28.2008
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vertical line Kewl
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May.28.2008
08:50PM EDT 
vertical line Keep it up!
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May.28.2008
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vertical line "Awareness of" separation.
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May.28.2008
08:51PM EDT 
vertical line Keep 'em comin'!
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May.28.2008
08:53PM EDT 
vertical line "the signs of" separation.
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May.28.2008
08:54PM EDT 
vertical line Here they come!
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May.28.2008
09:03PM EDT 
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vertical line Arising as one source.

There is no thought.

No word for

any more

than

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May.28.2008
09:05PM EDT 
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May.28.2008
09:05PM EDT 
vertical line Nice thought.
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May.28.2008
09:08PM EDT 
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Reply from Woodsman
May.28.2008
09:25PM EDT 
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vertical line then... it is nothing

and putting each need to consume down

letting go of a customary way of handling it

looking at it as if there were more in less

looking with value now at what was not used before

but now

connect again

to what was lost

as if more having were better than giving away

ever
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Reply from Snibbler
May.28.2008
10:04PM EDT 
vertical line never, into nowhere, doing better, one regretter, does it matter?
(If this woodn`t rime, it`ll still be fine, now where is my mind?)
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Reply from Woodsman
May.28.2008
10:15PM EDT 
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vertical line the question itself is more seeking

less, is letting the unquestioned stay unanswered, without needing answers, to what is
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May.28.2008
11:40PM EDT 
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Quote: "the question itself is more seeking

less, is letting the unquestioned stay unanswered, without needing answers, to what is
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questions can point

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May.28.2008
11:46PM EDT 
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Quote: "the question itself is more seeking

less, is letting the unquestioned stay unanswered, without needing answers, to what is
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questions can point

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away from what is
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Reply from Lynnoh
May.29.2008
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hmmm

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May.29.2008
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Quote: ""Awareness of" separation."
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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May.29.2008
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you wanna know why? cause it IS a thought pattern. Its a self induced idea you have in your head.

their is NO seperation.

all this crap does is make for further confusion,

the average man wouldnt know what you people are even begining to talk about on here.

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May.29.2008
02:09AM EDT 
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vertical line theres alot of light swishing by
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Quote: ""Awareness of" separation."
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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yeah.. for some reason things have to be shaken up to find something?

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May.29.2008
02:10AM EDT 
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your either asleep or awake.

these ideas of awakening are just as they appear.

ideas of awakening.

the average man wouldnt know what you people are even talking about.

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May.29.2008
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you wanna know why? cause it IS a thought pattern. Its a self induced idea you have in your head.

their is NO seperation.

all this crap does is make for further confusion,

the average man wouldnt know what you people are even begining to talk about on here.

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but we are all average man... except when you guys ...turn into one

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May.29.2008
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your either asleep or awake.

these ideas of awakening are just as they appear.

ideas of awakening.

the average man wouldnt know what you people are even talking about.

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whoa  i feel flatness or something..

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May.29.2008
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Quote: ""Awareness of" separation."
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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yeah.. for some reason things have to be shaken up to find something?

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nah.

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May.29.2008
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Quote: ""Awareness of" separation."
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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yeah.. for some reason things have to be shaken up to find something?

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nah.

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aaa   lol

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May.29.2008
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May.29.2008
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "

Quote: "the question itself is more seeking

less, is letting the unquestioned stay unanswered, without needing answers, to what is
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questions can point

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away from what is
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away from what is
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what did read as if was pointing from-to ?

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May.29.2008
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the average man wouldnt know what you people are even begining to talk about on here.

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The average man does not reflect truthfully.

Though...

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May.29.2008
08:47AM EDT 
vertical line There is no such entity as an average man. 
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May.29.2008
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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You.  The only way you can separate yourself from this living organism is through [your] concepts; the only way you can separate yourself from me is through the knowledge [thoughts] you have about me.  
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May.29.2008
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oh yeah.........who said?

thoughts are thoughts.

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May.29.2008
09:09AM EDT 
vertical line What do you want shayne?
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May.29.2008
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vertical line me.....nothing. im fine.
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May.29.2008
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oh yeah.........who said?

thoughts are thoughts.

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thoughts are energy
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May.29.2008
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ok what do i want?

i dont want to have to mow the grass. i cant get the lawnmower started and i dont know how to fix it. and my gf will have a cow cause i didnt get it mowed.

beyond this im happy.

hahaha.

my life is simplistic.

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May.29.2008
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vertical line yes thoughts are a form of energy.
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May.29.2008
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May.29.2008
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with my thoughts?

nah im realistic.

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May.29.2008
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ok what do i want?

i dont want to have to mow the grass. i cant get the lawnmower started and i dont know how to fix it. and my gf will have a cow cause i didnt get it mowed.

beyond this im happy.

hahaha.

my life is simplistic.

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can you pull out the spark plug?

if so, do that and bring it in to a hardware store, to get a new one

change the oil and gas out and recycle by bringing in to automotive shop

buy some donuts

look for a second hand mower on the road, this is a good time for one

make sure the gap on the new plug is tight enough, but not touching

prime the engine a few more times than normal

take off your air filter and clean it, air out the filter, or was and dry well

see if there is fuel entering the carburetor, you'll know this by looking at your filter



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May.29.2008
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vertical line oops I forgot the h on was, wash the filter, or get new one, use hot water in a bucket outside
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May.29.2008
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ok what do i want?

i dont want to have to mow the grass. i cant get the lawnmower started and i dont know how to fix it. and my gf will have a cow cause i didnt get it mowed.

beyond this im happy.

hahaha.

my life is simplistic.

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can you pull out the spark plug?

if so, do that and bring it in to a hardware store, to get a new one

change the oil and gas out and recycle by bringing in to automotive shop

buy some donuts

look for a second hand mower on the road, this is a good time for one

make sure the gap on the new plug is tight enough, but not touching

prime the engine a few more times than normal

take off your air filter and clean it, air out the filter, or was and dry well

see if there is fuel entering the carburetor, you'll know this by looking at your filter



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can you pull out the spark plug?

if so, do that and bring it in to a hardware store, to get a new one

change the oil and gas out and recycle by bringing in to automotive shop

buy some donuts

look for a second hand mower on the road, this is a good time for one

make sure the gap on the new plug is tight enough, but not touching

prime the engine a few more times than normal

take off your air filter and clean it, air out the filter, or was and dry well

see if there is fuel entering the carburetor, you'll know this by looking at your filter



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you with Shayne?

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May.29.2008
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vertical line i got it started. toke some huffing and puffing. probably should clean the spark plug and such. good advice.
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May.29.2008
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vertical line one wild boob.
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May.29.2008
12:28PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "

Quote: ""Awareness of" separation."
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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You.  The only way you can separate yourself from this living organism is through [your] concepts; the only way you can separate yourself from me is through the knowledge [thoughts] you have about me.  

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True knowledge?

Unity concept dances with the divisions.

Reflection at will.

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May.29.2008
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Quote: "one wild boob. "
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hahaha

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May.29.2008
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vertical line you guys should see me and my mini-bike/wood wagon device

just can't take hills without a wheelie, so I gather wood on the flats
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May.30.2008
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Quote: ""Awareness of" separation."
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WHO ever said their was seperation? this seems like a thought pattern.

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You.  The only way you can separate yourself from this living organism is through [your] concepts; the only way you can separate yourself from me is through the knowledge [thoughts] you have about me.  

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True knowledge?

Unity concept dances with the divisions.

Reflection at will.

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So unity is connected with division?
(DOH! I didn`s say that! Stupidmonkeygrmblh..)
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May.30.2008
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vertical line So it`s all interconnected and.. Oh My God! It`s full of stars..
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May.30.2008
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Yup. And you thought it was just butter.

oop, fams home gotta goyah
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