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Posted on Jun.11.2008 @ 08:15PM EDT by shayne
their is always two sides to philosophy.
time to speak. time to be silent.
time to kill. time to forgive.
their is no absolutes.
all is dependant on circumstance.
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Reply from Woodsman
Jun.11.2008
11:12PM EDT
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are you absolutely sure shayne?
yes?
no?
maybe?
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Reply from glorymind
Jun.12.2008
08:12AM EDT
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Interesting...
The Real Way Is Not Difficult
Joshu addressed an assembly of monks: "The Real Way is not difficult;,
but it dislikes the Relative. If there is but little speech, it is about the
Relative or it is about the Absolute. This old monk is not within the
Absolute. Do you value this or not?" A monk said to him, "If you
are not within the Absolute, how can you judge its value?" Joshu said,
"Neither do I know that." The monk argued, "Your Reverence, if
you do not yet know, how is it that you say you are not within the
Absolute?" Joshu said, "Your questioning is effective. Finish your
worship and leave."
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jun.12.2008
12:04PM EDT
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had to look up the words relative and absolute in the dictionary... but would seem that "relative" is a family member... and"absolute" a philosphy..since it appears as though we are not discussing a family member.. though may be the case (?) the term "absolute" was looked at.. and saying something to the manner of everydayness... not of what would be considered of... ??? am I getting this right? anyway it would seem that after a time (or two) this mode of being would be..just average dayness..., right..then absolute and relative (you know it)... would become... mute other than the times of oh lets say... experiences found to be "unique"... "whew" where'd that all come from. |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jun.12.2008
12:07PM EDT
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egad! there it goes again! ????? |
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Reply from Lynnoh
Jun.12.2008
12:11PM EDT
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guess it was time to be silent? |
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Reply from ______
Jun.12.2008
12:46PM EDT
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That old monk he did sum
He played click clack
With his bum
diddle it dit tiddle it
twiddle doddle tit
riddle dot tot yiddle at
piddle dottle dat
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Reply from glorymind
Jun.13.2008
12:04PM EDT
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Quote: "had to look up the words relative and absolute in the dictionary... but would seem that "relative" is a family member... and"absolute" a philosphy..since it appears as though we are not discussing a family member.. though may be the case (?) the term "absolute" was looked at.. and saying something to the manner of everydayness... not of what would be considered of... ??? am I getting this right? anyway it would seem that after a time (or two) this mode of being would be..just average dayness..., right..then absolute and relative (you know it)... would become... mute other than the times of oh lets say... experiences found to be "unique"... "whew" where'd that all come from."
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One commentary suggested Joshu's last comment was a rejection (of the question(er)).
Where is the old monk?.. That's relativism? But...
Returning to the Ordinary World
A monk asked Kegon, "How does an enlightened one return to the ordinary
world?" Kegon replied, "A broken mirror never reflects again;
fallen flowers never go back to the old branches."
... of what does not return? But I think you're basically right. Think Joshu expected:
Hyakujo wished to send a monk to open a new monastery. He told his
pupils that whoever answered a question most ably would be appointed.
Placing a water vase on the ground, he asked: “Who can say what this is
without calling its name?” The chief monk said: “No one can call it a
wooden shoe.” Isan, the cooking monk, tipped over the vase with his
shoe and went out. Hyakujo smiled and said: “The chief monk loses.” And
Isan became the master of the new monastery.
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Reply from Mslapik
Jun.15.2008
11:07AM EDT
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Show me how you know.
You gotta know unknowing.
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