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vertical line Posted on Jul.14.2008 @ 12:33PM EDT by Polly
Hey y'all You know, I just popped in to see what was goin down in the old zenforum...s'been a while you see :-) But it got me thinking, Poor Monks post. My sitting got rusty...then non-existent...Enquiry and meditation ceased. Some kind of realisation made me lazy - I then just thought 'What's the point?'. There was nowhere to go, nothing to do. I wanted something...was chasing something...then realised there was nothing to find. Please - what is the point to sit? To enquire? Pols
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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.14.2008
01:17PM EDT 
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vertical line Sitting has no status attached to it, nothing to accomplish, and thoughts flow in and out like through an open door, but we tend to close it. It is opened again when we reflect on everything around us as containing a lesson, as having a relationship to us, more than our thoughts and denial. We sit through the pain of separation from the true identity of being connected to all, just as sitting, so sitting becomes action without thoughts.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.14.2008
03:34PM EDT 
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sitting is an Art.

I asked the book  The Art of Just Sitting.

It has a point, but to say you got the point be.. missing the point

Books are helpful

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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.14.2008
05:52PM EDT 
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vertical line With sitting, laying or standing, one can use thoughts less, and in that find peace through mindfulness.
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Reply from 9999999
Jul.14.2008
06:35PM EDT 
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vertical line blah blah blah
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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.14.2008
06:51PM EDT 
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Reply from Snibbler
Jul.14.2008
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vertical line Just a tribute
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Reply from -----0
Jul.15.2008
02:22PM EDT 
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The point of sitting is immediate experience of what is all there is, right there and then, and not something you would have to practice for years in order to achieve some kind of transformation.

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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.15.2008
04:05PM EDT 
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vertical line sitting is like raining... the intention and the body become one
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Reply from boymonk
Jul.16.2008
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Reply from shayne
Jul.16.2008
06:58PM EDT 
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The point of sitting is to find the point. to concentrate the mind. sitting also lowers blood pressure. sitting is also used to realize their is nothing to grasp.that the immediate is all their is. this now.

but their is also a time to contemplate when sitting,

above all dont wooble.

when sitting contemplate.

when sitting dont contemplate.

to have a keen mind that can contemplate is good. to have a keen mind that can think is good. thinking is part of reality.

also sitting affects the state of mind.

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Reply from shayne
Jul.16.2008
07:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Bhavana - mental culture, development, the control and evolution of the mind, meditation .
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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.16.2008
07:38PM EDT 
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vertical line or just listen, to everything, equally well
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Reply from shayne
Jul.16.2008
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not or. or signifies an exception. you accept everything.

listen and contemplate.

its ok to contemplate.

two extremes.

on one hand you have contemplation. on the other you dont.

balance is the key.

sometimes you contemplate. sometimes you dont.

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Reply from shayne
Jul.16.2008
09:14PM EDT 
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vertical line yes equally. i see what your saying.
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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.16.2008
09:59PM EDT 
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vertical line yeah, equally... that's why we exist

And now, the fun begins. Of course at times it doesn't feel that way, but it's the transition, stepping out of a rigid set of rules that brings life in, to every moment.

I'm just blabbing.

I'm shavin' all my hair off!!!
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Reply from Polly
Jul.17.2008
06:53AM EDT 
vertical line Thanks guys...I appreciate y'all taking the time to give your tuppence :-) I'm kind of inspired - but i'm lazy. Sitting can always wait til another day. I need to top up the tan and tend to puppy. px
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Reply from shayne
Jul.17.2008
07:53AM EDT 
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vertical line your welcome.
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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.17.2008
10:03AM EDT 
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vertical line all is welcomed, gradually
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Reply from lehish
Jul.17.2008
03:58PM EDT 
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not or. or signifies an exception. you accept everything.

listen and contemplate.

its ok to contemplate.

two extremes.

on one hand you have contemplation. on the other you dont.

balance is the key.

sometimes you contemplate. sometimes you dont.

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control-"balance" is an idea that there's something to control-blance and someone which can

who are you ?

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Jul.18.2008
04:54AM EDT 
vertical line Do what the other guy says, sit on the point and keep on drillin' for guts.  Or take my advice and don't. 
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Jul.18.2008
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not or. or signifies an exception. you accept everything.

listen and contemplate.

its ok to contemplate.

two extremes.

on one hand you have contemplation. on the other you dont.

balance is the key.

sometimes you contemplate. sometimes you dont.

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control-"balance" is an idea that there's something to control-blance and someone which can

who are you ?

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Who are you? What are you?  

I'm a spanner to your nut. 
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Jul.18.2008
03:59PM EDT 
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Jul.18.2008
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Jul.18.2008
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Jul.18.2008
07:23PM EDT 
vertical line Why do YOU sit?
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Jul.18.2008
09:06PM EDT 
vertical line Why do YOU ask?
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Reply from Woodsman
Jul.18.2008
09:24PM EDT 
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vertical line But, but.... two buts are better than one, to sit on.
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