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  Posted on Aug.10.2009 @ 11:40PM EDT by chontri
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Those who only have faith in me and affection... continue...

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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: SORRY ALAN, AND OTHERS
vertical line Posted on Sep.12.2008 @ 02:02PM EDT by Woodsman
See ya, in all the minor things. bye
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Sep.12.2008
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Sep.12.2008
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sv7vfOymKs

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Reply from Bluerose
Sep.12.2008
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vertical line Bye. Thank you for all the help and advice you gave this simple woman in the past. I'll miss you.
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Sep.12.2008
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Reply from Snibbler
Sep.12.2008
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vertical line Heeeeeyyyy.... U come back now, ya hear? Yhis forum won`t be the same without you!
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Reply from shayne
Sep.12.2008
09:12PM EDT 
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Reply from Woodsman
Sep.12.2008
09:18PM EDT 
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vertical line I would stay if I felt I could be more honest, more real. I have a great need to be honest, but it offends people.  I'm basically a hands on person, artist/nurse and introvert, majorly into the non-verbals, worship the stuff, gotta have that chemistry, and just fault myself and offend others with my words. Like you snibbler, I was always just joking, but it became a real drain for Alan, and now I just feel, like an idiot again... happens a lot. Just a strong ego thing, a strong dumb ego. And the leaving I am doing, came to me before now, as with signs... another thing I'm into. I'm really not a Zennist, so... I have no rights to post anything. sorry. ok 
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Reply from shayne
Sep.12.2008
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ah i see.

signs?

lol.

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Reply from Woodsman
Sep.12.2008
10:01PM EDT 
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vertical line yeah.. things just happen randomly, that are just to unusual not to be other than a higher form of intelligence. I'm not saying that I am intelligent, not even creative enough to , mmm... channel the stuff. But hey, this conversation is not in the realm of Zenners. So, I'll shut up.  Shayne, peace, wholeness and love man... all the best for you. : )
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Sep.12.2008
10:19PM EDT 
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ok woodsy..

me im able to discuss anything but its your choice.

take care bud.

cya.

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Sep.12.2008
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 when people do what they love ,time fly  

dont want to disturb you now

: ) will you please come back to show your creative sometime .....

love,boopoom

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Reply from Snibbler
Sep.12.2008
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vertical line Sublime signs told you to leave?? There really are any Zennist's here?? Sure you not just reflected some negative karma energy, maybe planets in total disarray and solar flare activity or something? Sure, if you really want to leave then...
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Sep.12.2008
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Reply from emancipate
Sep.12.2008
11:27PM EDT 
vertical line Farewell Bluerose, Woodsman. May you never miss anything.

   As the ancient chinese proverb states:
   To be happy for a day, get drunk.
   To be happy for a week get a pig (i.e. become wealthy)
   To be happy for a year, get married.
   But to be happy for life, become a gardener.

Tend your gardens well. ;)

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Reply from emancipate
Sep.12.2008
11:32PM EDT 
vertical line Prrt... I mean... just Woodsman.

Honesty compulsion neurotic but satisfying (to me at least). Cheers to the honest. ;)

Rustic also gone?

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Sep.12.2008
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Quote: "I would stay if I felt I could be more honest, more real. I have a great need to be honest, but it offends people.  I'm basically a hands on person, artist/nurse and introvert, majorly into the non-verbals, worship the stuff, gotta have that chemistry, and just fault myself and offend others with my words. Like you snibbler, I was always just joking, but it became a real drain for Alan, and now I just feel, like an idiot again... happens a lot. Just a strong ego thing, a strong dumb ego. And the leaving I am doing, came to me before now, as with signs... another thing I'm into. I'm really not a Zennist, so... I have no rights to post anything. sorry. ok  "
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u can't any 'that,' woodsMan :D

huMgggggg

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Sep.12.2008
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an open book is an open door
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vertical line Quote: "Sublime signs told you to leave?? There really are any Zennist's here?? Sure you not just reflected some negative karma energy, maybe planets in total disarray and solar flare activity or something? Sure, if you really want to leave then...
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ok, let's just say I'm bad, or just make things worse. Didn't you feel I pestered you, until, well, I have to leave because of it? I just can't be nice! And that just makes more work for others. I gotta be a lonely guy story, listening to the morning doves, or playing with a beetle like a pup. It's not that, there's no computers in nature! It's unnatural to type, so mechanical, isn't me.
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Sep.13.2008
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Quote: "May you all see in ways you have never seen before
an open book is an open door
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"before" ? ;)

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Sep.13.2008
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Quote: "May you all see in ways you have never seen before
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"before" ? ;)

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before I left

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Quote:  "ok, let's just say I'm bad, or just make things worse. Didn't you feel I pestered you, until, well, I have to leave because of it? I just can't be nice! And that just makes more work for others. I gotta be a lonely guy story, listening to the morning doves, or playing with a beetle like a pup. It's not that, there's no computers in nature! It's unnatural to type, so mechanical, isn't me."
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sky is clear but raininggggg

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Quote: "May you all see in ways you have never seen before
an open book is an open door
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"before" ? ;)

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before I left
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before I left
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP8miD37zd8&feature=related

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Sep.13.2008
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vertical line this is very much in nature.
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tonight,
heard
scurrying.
then sounding like small pebbles falling

debris, dust, and dried rat droppings fell,
on two built in shelves close to the computer and sleeping area
which sometimes an odor urine and poo, since moved to this cottage

moved a basket of papers from under the dust

ate, since was preparing food when the debris fell,
then read online, before finishing cleaning

didn't know about possible diseases, until read online,
and to wear a hepa filter mask and rubber gloves when cleaning or handling which dried rat poo dust 

mold

poo

nature


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Sep.13.2008
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Sep.13.2008
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Quote: "I would stay if I felt I could be more honest, more real. I have a great need to be honest, but it offends people.  I'm basically a hands on person, artist/nurse and introvert, majorly into the non-verbals, worship the stuff, gotta have that chemistry, and just fault myself and offend others with my words. Like you snibbler, I was always just joking, but it became a real drain for Alan, and now I just feel, like an idiot again... happens a lot. Just a strong ego thing, a strong dumb ego. And the leaving I am doing, came to me before now, as with signs... another thing I'm into. I'm really not a Zennist, so... I have no rights to post anything. sorry. ok  "
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True, you are not a zen monk.  Few here are.  I would say you are a Zen Christian rather than a Zen Buddhist.

But I enjoy your posts, with their vital energy and imagery.  So I would ask you to stay, if you would be so kind.

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Reply from Woodsman
Sep.13.2008
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Sep.13.2008
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Sep.13.2008
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Sep.13.2008
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vertical line what is it that you want? you are no more or less alone now then you will be picking berries and drinking urine off in the forest.
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Sep.13.2008
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tonight,
heard
scurrying.
then sounding like small pebbles falling

debris, dust, and dried rat droppings fell,
on two built in shelves close to the computer and sleeping area
which sometimes an odor urine and poo, since moved to this cottage

moved a basket of papers from under the dust

ate, since was preparing food when the debris fell,
then read online, before finishing cleaning

didn't know about possible diseases, until read online,
and to wear a hepa filter mask and rubber gloves when cleaning or handling which dried rat poo dust 

mold

poo

nature


"
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Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
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Sep.13.2008
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vertical line Quote: "what is it that you want? you are no more or less alone now then you will be picking berries and drinking urine off in the forest."
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I don't want anything, but to love.
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Reply from 9999999
Sep.13.2008
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vertical line at what cost are you willing to get what you want?

you want to love the people on the forum but only annoy them

since your love isnt accepted here you impose it on the unwary animals and insects like a bulldozer destroying everything in its path

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or are you willing to deprive the entire forum of your love just because one or two people didnt accept it?


you have to be accepted by everyone--and when you're not you flee the area as if evacuating a burning building


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Sep.13.2008
04:08PM EDT 
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It's just for show.
Do not, ever believe a word I write, unless you are, lookin' me, in the... ___. (word deleted)
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tonight,
heard
scurrying.
then sounding like small pebbles falling

debris, dust, and dried rat droppings fell,
on two built in shelves close to the computer and sleeping area
which sometimes an odor urine and poo, since moved to this cottage

moved a basket of papers from under the dust

ate, since was preparing food when the debris fell,
then read online, before finishing cleaning

didn't know about possible diseases, until read online,
and to wear a hepa filter mask and rubber gloves when cleaning or handling which dried rat poo dust 

mold

poo

nature


"
.........

Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
"
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"
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Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
"
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hi

didn't use bleach when was first cleaning, since wasn't informed,...maybe breathed and spread the dust....did use bleach for some of the mold but there's plavces i can't reach (the ceiling, inside walls, the subfloor, etc ...a  man which did some repair work said there's alot damage, and a man which once considered buying the cottage said the floor is rotted...they said the building shoud be bulldozed...there's been cosmetic work coveing-up without cleaning...just covering it up so can't see

the droppings and dust also fell on the carpet...i sleep on the floor near there...the vacuum has a hepa filter, but the power brush can carry

wll use bleach and inform the man which takes care of the cottage, for the women which rent it from, the sources of entry need to be sealed

was told the building is going to be rented out, after i move out

honey, don't serious any posts which maybe appear judging... vibrancing, uniqueness, called woodsman,  isn't to be hidden

moonsun-glowing-lit-waterripple isn't hidden

thanking

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Sep.13.2008
05:49PM EDT 
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tonight,
heard
scurrying.
then sounding like small pebbles falling

debris, dust, and dried rat droppings fell,
on two built in shelves close to the computer and sleeping area
which sometimes an odor urine and poo, since moved to this cottage

moved a basket of papers from under the dust

ate, since was preparing food when the debris fell,
then read online, before finishing cleaning

didn't know about possible diseases, until read online,
and to wear a hepa filter mask and rubber gloves when cleaning or handling which dried rat poo dust 

mold

poo

nature


"
.........

Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
"
.........

"
.........

Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
"
.........

hi

didn't use bleach when was first cleaning, since wasn't informed,...maybe breathed and spread the dust....did use bleach for some of the mold but there's plavces i can't reach (the ceiling, inside walls, the subfloor, etc ...a  man which did some repair work said there's alot damage, and a man which once considered buying the cottage said the floor is rotted...they said the building shoud be bulldozed...there's been cosmetic work coveing-up without cleaning...just covering it up so can't see

the droppings and dust also fell on the carpet...i sleep on the floor near there...the vacuum has a hepa filter, but the power brush can carry

wll use bleach and inform the man which takes care of the cottage, for the women which rent it from, the sources of entry need to be sealed

was told the building is going to be rented out, after i move out

honey, don't serious any posts which maybe appear judging... vibrancing, uniqueness, called woodsman,  isn't to be hidden

moonsun-glowing-lit-waterripple isn't hidden

thanking

"
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I guess I wouldn't be overly concerned about the hantavirus showing up, if you haven't had any problems until now, good thing to be moving... and the house does sound like it needs being raised... happens. So, good you are leaving the rats behind, little pests, or big ones.

I am going to post here for the ease of Alan to delete what if ever I must say that barks at him. To make it easier. It's like using bleach, on myself... I don't know. I'm clean!!!
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tonight,
heard
scurrying.
then sounding like small pebbles falling

debris, dust, and dried rat droppings fell,
on two built in shelves close to the computer and sleeping area
which sometimes an odor urine and poo, since moved to this cottage

moved a basket of papers from under the dust

ate, since was preparing food when the debris fell,
then read online, before finishing cleaning

didn't know about possible diseases, until read online,
and to wear a hepa filter mask and rubber gloves when cleaning or handling which dried rat poo dust 

mold

poo

nature


"
.........

Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
"
.........

"
.........

Hi,

Use a bleach solution on the dust and droppings, avoid sweeping and creating dust. Wipe up the excess. Do wear a mask for all cleaning. Find the source of the rodent entry and block it, and find the water leak All mold and decay must be removed and repaired.
"
.........

hi

didn't use bleach when was first cleaning, since wasn't informed,...maybe breathed and spread the dust....did use bleach for some of the mold but there's plavces i can't reach (the ceiling, inside walls, the subfloor, etc ...a  man which did some repair work said there's alot damage, and a man which once considered buying the cottage said the floor is rotted...they said the building shoud be bulldozed...there's been cosmetic work coveing-up without cleaning...just covering it up so can't see

the droppings and dust also fell on the carpet...i sleep on the floor near there...the vacuum has a hepa filter, but the power brush can carry

wll use bleach and inform the man which takes care of the cottage, for the women which rent it from, the sources of entry need to be sealed

was told the building is going to be rented out, after i move out

honey, don't serious any posts which maybe appear judging... vibrancing, uniqueness, called woodsman,  isn't to be hidden

moonsun-glowing-lit-waterripple isn't hidden

thanking

"
.........

I guess I wouldn't be overly concerned about the hantavirus showing up, if you haven't had any problems until now, good thing to be moving... and the house does sound like it needs being raised... happens. So, good you are leaving the rats behind, little pests, or big ones.

I am going to post here for the ease of Alan to delete what if ever I must say that barks at him. To make it easier. It's like using bleach, on myself... I don't know. I'm clean!!!
"
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"
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I guess I wouldn't be overly concerned about the hantavirus showing up, if you haven't had any problems until now, good thing to be moving... and the house does sound like it needs being raised... happens. So, good you are leaving the rats behind, little pests, or big ones.

I am going to post here for the ease of Alan to delete what if ever I must say that barks at him. To make it easier. It's like using bleach, on myself... I don't know. I'm clean!!!
"
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was alan deleting alot ?

woodsman already clean no matter which may seem...!


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Sep.14.2008
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oh stay ya big goofball !!!!

haha.

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You can't leave, Woodsman, before Alan finds a replacement for you!

And that won't be so easy . . .

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kick my butt
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Sep.15.2008
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kick my butt
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lol

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Quote: "saw more wood "
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doow erom was

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Sep.15.2008
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Quote: "forgot to pick the zucchini

there, try that one, but don't pick it
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is ok forgot

zucchini is in the frig,
bought  when last shopping,
for salad


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vertical line want some ripe sweet tomatoes?
oh, an gonna have potatoes, been in with the beans, brother sister plants
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oh yes sweet tomatoes and potatoes...any beets ?
is wood sawed ?

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Sep.16.2008
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:)

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Quote: "I just don't want to be a burden, or a motor mind. So... I'll shut up for awhile, until I see the light, because... that is the way I have lived life to be, all else is just struggle, but I really don't want to add my struggle to another. I want to live in the light, and give of the light. It's either I am humble or arrogant, with no in between. I'm lost. "
.........

I have been in the light.  I would have gladly died to stay there in that 'Total Love', and God knows I tried as hard as I could to do just that.

Sometimes we think we've reached the end and we haven't.  I had further to go, and I'm glad I was able to stay on the path.

I don't think I've reached the end, because I no longer think there is one.  What I perceived while in the light was beyond compare, I'll never forget it, but it was not the truth, it was not the end.

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Sep.16.2008
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vertical line Anyway, hows things going over there in the rotten old fiat empire!??
Like, hear u`r country is like, u know, totally mashed up with hurricanes and stuff,
and you`re financial institutions are like totally crumbling along with the blood stained petro dollar, kinda bummer, eh? Lol, eh, sob I mean.
Anyway, nothing ya yanks can`t brush off I guess, just remember to stock up on petrol, ammunition, food and outrageous road warrior costumes, I`ll sure you`ll be alright, he he he.. :)
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Sep.16.2008
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Sep.16.2008
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Sep.16.2008
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hopping?

ho-ping?

ho ho... ping?!

I mean poo.

ping...?
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Sep.16.2008
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Quote: "I just don't want to be a burden, or a motor mind. So... I'll shut up for awhile, until I see the light, because... that is the way I have lived life to be, all else is just struggle, but I really don't want to add my struggle to another. I want to live in the light, and give of the light. It's either I am humble or arrogant, with no in between. I'm lost. "
.........

I have been in the light.  I would have gladly died to stay there in that 'Total Love', and God knows I tried as hard as I could to do just that.

Sometimes we think we've reached the end and we haven't.  I had further to go, and I'm glad I was able to stay on the path.

I don't think I've reached the end, because I no longer think there is one.  What I perceived while in the light was beyond compare, I'll never forget it, but it was not the truth, it was not the end.

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"
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their is no end. time dont exist. and ending needs time. time has been fabricated.

IM NOT THE ONLY ONE! who thinks this way.

and your "light" was also fabricated in your own mind don.

im not saying this is bad.

i too have had moments of immense peace and love.

their is no journey......their is only journeying.

their is no BECOMING a enlightened being.

their is only being.

of course.......something is.......askew.

ill get back to you on that.

my questioning has rised the question.

what would it take for say someone like "hitler" to become enlightened?

maybe us the zen masters take enlightenment for granted.

could be.

or maybe ALOT of people have yet to discover their own minds.

hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Sep.16.2008
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Quote: "I just don't want to be a burden, or a motor mind. So... I'll shut up for awhile, until I see the light, because... that is the way I have lived life to be, all else is just struggle, but I really don't want to add my struggle to another. I want to live in the light, and give of the light. It's either I am humble or arrogant, with no in between. I'm lost. "
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being humble is cicumstanial.

and being arrogant is circumstanital.

youll just have to deal with ambiquity.

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Quote: "yeah.. things just happen randomly, that are just to unusual not to be other than a higher form of intelligence. I'm not saying that I am intelligent, not even creative enough to , mmm... channel the stuff. But hey, this conversation is not in the realm of Zenners. So, I'll shut up.  Shayne, peace, wholeness and love man... all the best for you. : )
"
.........

when i was at the height of my bipolar i thought i was talking to god and such.

you might wanna watch this.

not doubting you per say.

your intelliegent enoufe to feel the truth out for yourself.

but feel you do......and feel too much.

i consider you overly sensitive.

it takes one to know one.

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Sep.16.2008
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Quote: "I would stay if I felt I could be more honest, more real. I have a great need to be honest, but it offends people.  I'm basically a hands on person, artist/nurse and introvert, majorly into the non-verbals, worship the stuff, gotta have that chemistry, and just fault myself and offend others with my words. Like you snibbler, I was always just joking, but it became a real drain for Alan, and now I just feel, like an idiot again... happens a lot. Just a strong ego thing, a strong dumb ego. And the leaving I am doing, came to me before now, as with signs... another thing I'm into. I'm really not a Zennist, so... I have no rights to post anything. sorry. ok  "
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True, you are not a zen monk.  Few here are.  I would say you are a Zen Christian rather than a Zen Buddhist.

But I enjoy your posts, with their vital energy and imagery.  So I would ask you to stay, if you would be so kind.

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its refered to as gedo zen don.

thats what woodsy is.

i was too at one point in my life.

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Sep.16.2008
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listen to this song woodsy.

itll cheer ya up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i_72iKvbtI

hahahahhahah

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Sep.16.2008
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I caught a skunk in the live trap this morning.
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Quote: "that was a dream I had this morning, minus the sound of the weeping, the wailing and the gnashing of teeth "
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so you dont APPROVE?

hahahahha.

ok listen to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lYTlfCyrXI

jewel,

i dig her too.

shes my yin to my yang.

haha.

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Sep.16.2008
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Quote: "Guess what?

I caught a skunk in the live trap this morning.
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awsome.

ok name it jewel shane.

hahahahaa.

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Quote: "Jes, you are at Nirvana. "
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whats that?

nerdbanna?

haha.

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and i will save him... wait a minute... he cannot... i must!
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Quote: "yeah.. things just happen randomly, that are just to unusual not to be other than a higher form of intelligence. I'm not saying that I am intelligent, not even creative enough to , mmm... channel the stuff. But hey, this conversation is not in the realm of Zenners. So, I'll shut up.  Shayne, peace, wholeness and love man... all the best for you. : )
"
.........

when i was at the height of my bipolar i thought i was talking to god and such.

you might wanna watch this.

not doubting you per say.

your intelliegent enoufe to feel the truth out for yourself.

but feel you do......and feel too much.

i consider you overly sensitive.

it takes one to know one.

"
.........

"
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As a disability case worker I handled thousands of psychiatric cases.  I got to read the psychiatrist's accounts of all the stuff that was going on in people's heads, and their analysis. 

I went into hearings with people who had brought their 'imaginary' friends with them for support.  Sure it was not real to me.  But it was real to them. 

And who says that that was not God talking to you?  Someone presuming to speak for God?

Millions of people go to church every Sunday but they do not believe that God can talk to people?  How much faith is that.  How should I know who God is talking to?

Once in a vision, Jesus put his hand on my shoulder and said, "Be at peace.  Be still in your heart.  Be true to God."  Was that really Jesus?  I do not know.  I like to think so, but I am not swearing to it.  I am not swearing to anything.  I do not have to.

To me, being true to God means not placing limits on God.  Leaving things open. 
As to who or what God is, well, I leave that open too.

But yes I do believe in God.  And God has said to me, "Trust is good.  Faith is better."

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thanks warning....hehehehehe

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As a disability case worker I handled thousands of psychiatric cases.  I got to read the psychiatrist's accounts of all the stuff that was going on in people's heads, and their analysis. 

I went into hearings with people who had brought their 'imaginary' friends with them for support.  Sure it was not real to me.  But it was real to them. 

And who says that that was not God talking to you?  Someone presuming to speak for God?

Millions of people go to church every Sunday but they do not believe that God can talk to people?  How much faith is that.  How should I know who God is talking to?

Once in a vision, Jesus put his hand on my shoulder and said, "Be at peace.  Be still in your heart.  Be true to God."  Was that really Jesus?  I do not know.  I like to think so, but I am not swearing to it.  I am not swearing to anything.  I do not have to.

To me, being true to God means not placing limits on God.  Leaving things open. 
As to who or what God is, well, I leave that open too.

But yes I do believe in God.  And God has said to me, "Trust is good.  Faith is better."

"
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Reading this makes me sick.

God in his omnipotence (within you and outside of you) is going to send Jesus down to give a pat on the back - while having the power to change you (or your mind) in any way he desires? To make you feel like a good chap for the day? To make you think that it's important for you to think of him in a particular way (no "limits")?

While in the meantime: rape, murder, pedophilia, war and oppression, poverty and starvation? (List does not end.)

Good God, I'm so darn glad he's come down to you to tell you these things. This really goes a long way in helping the entire world....

People go to church because they've sold their souls. They've signed the God contract and think they'll be getting something in return. But that's another story, I guess.

If there is a God, he doesn't care.

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As a disability case worker I handled thousands of psychiatric cases.  I got to read the psychiatrist's accounts of all the stuff that was going on in people's heads, and their analysis. 

I went into hearings with people who had brought their 'imaginary' friends with them for support.  Sure it was not real to me.  But it was real to them. 

And who says that that was not God talking to you?  Someone presuming to speak for God?

Millions of people go to church every Sunday but they do not believe that God can talk to people?  How much faith is that.  How should I know who God is talking to?

Once in a vision, Jesus put his hand on my shoulder and said, "Be at peace.  Be still in your heart.  Be true to God."  Was that really Jesus?  I do not know.  I like to think so, but I am not swearing to it.  I am not swearing to anything.  I do not have to.

To me, being true to God means not placing limits on God.  Leaving things open. 
As to who or what God is, well, I leave that open too.

But yes I do believe in God.  And God has said to me, "Trust is good.  Faith is better."

"
.........

Reading this makes me sick.

God in his omnipotence (within you and outside of you) is going to send Jesus down to give a pat on the back - while having the power to change you (or your mind) in any way he desires? To make you feel like a good chap for the day? To make you think that it's important for you to think of him in a particular way (no "limits")?

While in the meantime: rape, murder, pedophilia, war and oppression, poverty and starvation? (List does not end.)

Good God, I'm so darn glad he's come down to you to tell you these things. This really goes a long way in helping the entire world....

People go to church because they've sold their souls. They've signed the God contract and think they'll be getting something in return. But that's another story, I guess.

If there is a God, he doesn't care.

"
.........

"
.........

Reading this makes me sick.

God in his omnipotence (within you and outside of you) is going to send Jesus down to give a pat on the back - while having the power to change you (or your mind) in any way he desires? To make you feel like a good chap for the day? To make you think that it's important for you to think of him in a particular way (no "limits")?

While in the meantime: rape, murder, pedophilia, war and oppression, poverty and starvation? (List does not end.)

Good God, I'm so darn glad he's come down to you to tell you these things. This really goes a long way in helping the entire world....

People go to church because they've sold their souls. They've signed the God contract and think they'll be getting something in return. But that's another story, I guess.

If there is a God, he doesn't care.

"
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I think you could use some more emanicipation, from yourself.

There used to be a guy around here named Muga.  He said once, "It is good for the mind to have thoughts, but not for thoughts to have the mind."

I'm only interested in my relationship with God, within myself.  I'll let everyone else negotiate their own deal.  Its not my problem.

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Quote: "There used to be a guy around here named Muga.  He said once, "It is good for the mind to have thoughts, but not for thoughts to have the mind.""
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"mind to have thoughts" "thoughts to have mind" ..."have" is an idea

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"mind to have thoughts" "thoughts to have mind" ..."have" is an idea

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Everything is 'an idea', Lehishy baby.  Name one thing that isn't.

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