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vertical line Posted on Oct.07.2008 @ 04:25AM EDT by IZIZIZ

Buddhists find a bit of zen, and the challenge compells them to jump on to IT.

But they are still buddhists.

Zenists jump into the pool of no challenge, but they are zennists in a pool.

Realists know none of THIS.

Tell me about the UNCONSCIOUS or dont bother speaking at all.


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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.07.2008
06:11AM EDT 
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vertical line the subconscious
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Reply from immortal 1
Oct.07.2008
08:21AM EDT 
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We are the unconscious. 

Limited by our five senses, and so used to them, we often refuse to accept the Universal Consciousness when we encounter it.

Yet it is the conscious one because it is well aware of us while we are so often blind to it.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.07.2008
08:46AM EDT 
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vertical line I'm not.
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Reply from shayne
Oct.07.2008
09:33AM EDT 
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well i dont believe in the consciousness if it is a thing that arises from the self.

empyhsis on thing. so its not a state of mind.

nor do i believe in the unconcious save when im asleep.

something still arises though when we wake.

the brain goes into a alpha or beta stage...i forget which one.

this is scientific.

so its NOT unconscious.

unconscious donates not being aware.

and this subconscious thing is the same deal.

not being aware of it.

do you desire to be unconscious or something?

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.07.2008
11:07AM EDT 
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vertical line like you?
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Reply from shayne
Oct.07.2008
11:16AM EDT 
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Quote: "like you? "
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yeah like me hairball.

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Reply from shayne
Oct.07.2008
11:51AM EDT 
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its CALLED zen buddhism.

not zen and then buddhists.

unless your talking indian buddism.

with all the gods and such.

which is another form of malarky.

haha.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.07.2008
11:59AM EDT 
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vertical line I feel like I'm in church. Are you a Baptist preacher Shyanne? I mean, Preacher Shayne.
I like Shyanne better. All them curves. Praise the... ah, yeah.
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Oct.07.2008
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Quote: "I feel like I'm in church. Are you a Baptist preacher Shyanne? I mean, Preacher Shayne.
I like Shyanne better. All them curves. Praise the... ah, yeah.
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ya nut.

hahaha.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.07.2008
01:29PM EDT 
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vertical line perfect Baptist preacher response. Amazing! Not really, that's what Baptist preachers want you to say.
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Reply from shayne
Oct.07.2008
10:08PM EDT 
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Quote: "perfect Baptist preacher response. Amazing! Not really, that's what Baptist preachers want you to say. "
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seems like your projecting again.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.07.2008
10:39PM EDT 
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Quote: "perfect Baptist preacher response. Amazing! Not really, that's what Baptist preachers want you to say. "
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seems like your projecting again.

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Blame is also typical Baptist preacher response. You'll be goin' ta church this Sunday boy.
Meet a nice girl, work on your English, pray for a failing economy, things like that, and free toilet breaks.
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.08.2008
06:01AM EDT 
vertical line The samurai so practiced their martial arts that they became buried in the unconscious, thus in war they did not have to consciously think but rather executed 'out of the unconscious’! 
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Oct.08.2008
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Quote: "The samurai so practiced their martial arts that they became buried in the unconscious, thus in war they did not have to consciously think but rather executed 'out of the unconscious’! "
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let the tools work out in conjunction the training they have undergone. that way the consciousness can be preoccupied with what the enemy is doing.

either way.............haha.

to be unconscious?

unconsciouss of what?

i dont want to be unconscious.

uncounscious of what the self is doing?

what part of wholenss is not understood.

we dont leave out parts....we embrace it all.

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Reply from so_teh
Oct.08.2008
09:36AM EDT 
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...its teh paradoxical substance your looking for of teh 9 or so consciouses before you investigate "that is delusion, that is all" state of mind which may take you beyond conscious activity...

if not be creative 

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.08.2008
09:59AM EDT 
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vertical line Preacher Shayne will now interpret, along with bible book, chapter and verse, or verses if he really goes on another rant. Start snoring... now!
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Reply from shayne
Oct.08.2008
10:05AM EDT 
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vertical line dude....shut up!
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.08.2008
10:08AM EDT 
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vertical line Praise the Lords!
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.08.2008
10:09AM EDT 
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vertical line I am a Shayne interpreter. Even when he mumbles, therein lies great meaning.
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Reply from ______
Oct.08.2008
10:11AM EDT 
vertical line I hope he's right in the head
I hope he's right in the head
I hope he's right in the head
even if he has to wrong someone

and I hope his guardian angel puts a gun in his hand
if ever they get ambushed or pursued
I hope she sticks around when he does dirty in this dirty duel he's brewed
and though the names will get changed to protect the innocent
he said, "I hope the names will get changed to protect me."
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.08.2008
10:13AM EDT 
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Reply from shayne
Oct.08.2008
10:22AM EDT 
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Quote: "I am a Shayne interpreter. Even when he mumbles, therein lies great meaning. "
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no you mumble crudhead.

hahahahhahaha.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.08.2008
12:31PM EDT 
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vertical line I am a crudy headed sinner. Here, crud  = sin. But again, never a fixed state, or broken one. Self esteem needs to rise from the dead of any fixation. Back to the wood staffs.
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Reply from raeej91
Oct.08.2008
03:19PM EDT 
vertical line I don't know.  But I'm pretty confused now reading about what you said
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.08.2008
03:56PM EDT 
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vertical line I serve all requests for clarification. 
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Reply from J onah
Oct.09.2008
08:49AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "I don't do Rustics'.

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Praise the Lard and break out the plough.
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.09.2008
08:58AM EDT 
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vertical line No, it was... Praise the Lard, and have a happy de-lite.
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.09.2008
09:18AM EDT 
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Quote: "Quote: "I don't do Rustics'.

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Praise the Lard and break out the plough.
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Jonah.Have a go at the topic.

You seem to move from topic to topic in a flurry.

Like a bantamweight. 

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Reply from J onah
Oct.09.2008
09:22AM EDT 
vertical line Are you the Zen Guide with the permissions? Or nothing of the kind?
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Reply from lehish
Oct.09.2008
09:29AM EDT 
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vertical line was invitation
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Reply from J onah
Oct.09.2008
09:31AM EDT 
vertical line Yeah right, an invitation for a bit of what you fancy.
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Reply from lehish
Oct.09.2008
09:34AM EDT 
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Quote: "Yeah right, an invitation for a bit of what you fancy. "
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fancy ?

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Reply from J onah
Oct.09.2008
09:35AM EDT 
vertical line Look it up.
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Oct.09.2008
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Reply from J onah
Oct.09.2008
09:38AM EDT 
vertical line So don't.
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Reply from lehish
Oct.09.2008
09:40AM EDT 
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vertical line did it appear there was a need for you to say that ?
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Reply from J onah
Oct.09.2008
09:45AM EDT 
vertical line What's need got to do with it? Who's need? Your need to ask ridiculous questions that I won't answer? That need?
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.09.2008
09:52AM EDT 
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vertical line Ok, time for a commercial.

Feeling lonely?

Feeling scared?

Well now we have the Woodsman's Stick Stuck Staffs to get you out of it !!!

And for this new incredible offer of $199.95. It's a steal ! Or, I mean, a wood, you get, to unstick your self,  ish ramblings.

Ooop! Gotta go feed the birds! Chow! They cawing.
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Oct.09.2008
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Quote: "Ok, time for a commercial.

Feeling lonely?

Feeling scared?

Well now we have the Woodsman's Stick Stuck Staffs to get you out of it !!!

And for this new incredible offer of $199.95. It's a steal ! Or, I mean, a wood, you get, to unstick your self,  ish ramblings.

Ooop! Gotta go feed the birds! Chow! They cawing.
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199 bucks............are you mad?

hahahaha.

how much you really want for em?

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Reply from shayne
Oct.09.2008
10:21AM EDT 
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all i know is im pure like a snowflake.

and johny cat.

hahahhahaha

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Oct.09.2008
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Quote: "Ok, time for a commercial.

Feeling lonely?

Feeling scared?

Well now we have the Woodsman's Stick Stuck Staffs to get you out of it !!!

And for this new incredible offer of $199.95. It's a steal ! Or, I mean, a wood, you get, to unstick your self,  ish ramblings.

Ooop! Gotta go feed the birds! Chow! They cawing.
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199 bucks............are you mad?

hahahaha.

how much you really want for em?

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ok, give me an hourly rate. ah, you don't wanna know
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Reply from shayne
Oct.09.2008
11:06AM EDT 
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i dont have tha kind of money or id buy one offa ya.

shucks.

give me one at a discount just cause you like me.

actually i dont know what i would do with it.

nm.

haha.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.09.2008
12:01PM EDT 
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vertical line You could rule the world! For an hour, hourly wage.
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.09.2008
02:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Ok. I got a bible verse comin'. Shayne, go get one, at some old dump of a hotel, and lemme know soas I can start quotin' an throwin' bible fluff all over the place. Now git!
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