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  One day the Buddha was asked by the naked ascetic Kassapa:
-Master Gotama, is suffering created by oneself?
The Buddha replied:
-Not so, Kassapa.
-Then, is suffering created by another?
-Not so, Kassapa.
-Then,... continue...

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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: EMPTINESS.
vertical line Posted on Oct.29.2008 @ 07:14PM EDT by shayne
emptiness is the structure of the mind. it is not something to focus on.
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.29.2008
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.29.2008
07:34PM EDT 
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vertical line ok dokay?

My mind is feeling, nothing, and thinking less.
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Reply from shayne
Oct.29.2008
07:36PM EDT 
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not thinking is ok.

thinking is ok.

above all dont wobble.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.29.2008
07:55PM EDT 
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vertical line Shayne you are reading too much. Here's one more... "No."
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Reply from shayne
Oct.29.2008
07:57PM EDT 
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no john to you.

im not reading anything.

dont wobble between alterantives.

when thinking think.

when not thinking dont think.

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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.29.2008
08:03PM EDT 
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vertical line Ok. : )
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Reply from immortal 1
Oct.30.2008
04:26AM EDT 
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The natural state of your mind is what is was when you were born.

If you return to that kind of thinking, you can approach life again with that kind of innocence.

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.30.2008
06:49AM EDT 
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emptiness is the structure of the mind. it is not something to focus on.

Yes. It is both.

What is emptiness. What is not emptiness.

Look around. Look at this reality. This no-thing-ness. This paradox.

This 'IS'.

Now see the IS of IS. It knows no fill.

Emptiness. Reality. No-thing-ness. Paradox. You.

Where is it not?

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Reply from emancipate
Oct.30.2008
06:56AM EDT 
vertical line The objects you think of and see are not themselves the real objects/things (who is actually aware of atoms?). They are merely representations within the human mind. This is emptiness.

This may be a fun read... If you're stuck on an island with nothing else to do ;)

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.30.2008
07:00AM EDT 
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To date, through this post and many other posts I have observed that there are many many understandings and interpretations of emptiness.

The same seems to be with no-thing-ness.

I suppose it is what it is.

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.30.2008
07:03AM EDT 
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Heres one for. Read it. But understand it.

SUBHUTI'S EMPTINESS
Subhuti was Buddha's disciple. He was able to understand the potency of emptiness, that nothing exists except in its relationship of subjectivity and objectivity. One day, in a mood of sublime emptiness, Subhuti was resting underneath a tree when flowers began to fall about him.

"We are praising you for your discourse on emptiness," the gods whispered to Subhuti.

"But I have not spoken of emptiness," replied Subhuti.

"You have not spoken of emptiness, we have not heard emptiness," responded the gods. "This is the true emptiness." The blossoms showered upon Subhuti as rain.

Subhuti

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.30.2008
07:13AM EDT 
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Emptiness is a key concept in Buddhist philosophy, or more precisely, in the ontology of Mahayana Buddhism. The phrase "form is emptiness; emptiness is form" is perhaps the most celebrated paradox associated with Buddhist philosophy. It is the supreme mantra. The expression originates from the Prajna Paramita Hridaya Sutra, commonly known as the Heart Sutra, which contains the philosophical essence of about six hundred scrolls making up the Maha Prajna Paramita. The Heart Sutra is the shortest text in this collection.

Is reality not form?

How about no-thing-ness, IS, you????

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Reply from emancipate
Oct.30.2008
07:26AM EDT 
vertical line We see/experience/think forms. But these forms exist only in our minds and are separate from the "True nature" of anything... The qualities we may experience are themselves only forms. "Realness". Thus emptiness.

I hope that all made perfect sense. ;)

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.31.2008
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Quote: "We see/experience/think forms. But these forms exist only in our minds and are separate from the "True nature" of anything... The qualities we may experience are themselves only forms. "Realness". Thus emptiness.

I hope that all made perfect sense. ;)

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What is outside of mind. Bring it forward.

Where is 'true nature'. Bring it on.

Dreaming of that which is not, is also of mind.

Knock on wood. Its there. No-thing else.

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Reply from emancipate
Oct.31.2008
06:33AM EDT 
vertical line The Stone Mind.

;)

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Oct.31.2008
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Experiencing the paradox of 'IS'.

There is no in. There is no out.

Just IS.

Mind IS.

IS IS.

Subjects, objects, minds, thoughts, you, it. Where does that all go on.

Bring it all up.

From where to where though?

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Reply from lehish
Oct.31.2008
10:04PM EDT 
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Experiencing the paradox of 'IS'."
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what are u comparing which seems as though a paradox ?

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Reply from emancipate
Oct.31.2008
10:38PM EDT 
vertical line Inter-relationships.

Of... the One?? ;)

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Nov.01.2008
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Reply from ______
Nov.01.2008
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vertical line Paradox is experiencing the tension of the opposites in everday thought and speech. Another word for it is crucifixion - the cross is the perfect symbol of the tension between the opposites, symbolising the unity in which they are reconciled, harmonised.
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Nov.01.2008
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vertical line The same thing is done over and over again with the expectation of a different result
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Reply from shayne
Nov.01.2008
09:26AM EDT 
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the defiantion of insanity is doing the same thing over and over with the same results.

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Nov.01.2008
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Nov.01.2008
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Quote: "Chickens still push out eggs, for some reason. "
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natural event........very physical in nature.

not much differant then eating.

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Nov.01.2008
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.01.2008
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The big fat laughing buddhas smile.

Now, thats paradox.

Whadda ya know about that.

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Nov.01.2008
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vertical line Emaciated buddha's veins standing up on the surface of shin, eyes sucked back in his head. Is he there also smiling?
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Nov.01.2008
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Nov.02.2008
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vertical line The laughing Jesus.  Down from the cross.  Now, that's not paradox. 
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Nov.02.2008
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vertical line The Buddha includes everything in this world, and all others, so seems large, but laughs at the relativeness of it all.
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Jan.04.2009
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Can anyone give links to material on emptiness?

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Reply from lehish
Jan.04.2009
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Quote: "Paradox is experiencing the tension of the opposites in everday thought and speech. Another word for it is crucifixion - the cross is the perfect symbol of the tension between the opposites, symbolising the unity in which they are reconciled, harmonised."
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Quote: "Paradox is experiencing the tension of the opposites in everday thought and speech. Another word for it is crucifixion - the cross is the perfect symbol of the tension between the opposites, symbolising the unity in which they are reconciled, harmonised."
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not posssible to "reconcile harnonine' imagined-opposites (thought)

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Jan.04.2009
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Quote: "Now, thats paradox."
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not possible

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Jan.04.2009
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 Quote: "The Buddha includes everything in this world, and all others, so seems large, but laughs at the relativeness of it all. "
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what's imagined as though separate to include ?

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Jan.04.2009
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Quote: "Paradox is experiencing the tension of the opposites in everday thought and speech. Another word for it is crucifixion - the cross is the perfect symbol of the tension between the opposites, symbolising the unity in which they are reconciled, harmonised."
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not posssible to "reconcile harnonine' imagined-opposites (thought)

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Took you a while to think that one up - not quite resurrected.  Yeah, it's [symbolically] possible - re-read your Osho.
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Jan.04.2009
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Can anyone give links to material on emptiness?

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oops, missed this one.

Yes of course - feel free to give links - it's permissable. 
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Jan.04.2009
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Quote: "Paradox is experiencing the tension of the opposites in everday thought and speech. Another word for it is crucifixion - the cross is the perfect symbol of the tension between the opposites, symbolising the unity in which they are reconciled, harmonised."
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not correct...you post alot assuming, rustic

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Jan.04.2009
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vertical line a stinker oo
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Jan.05.2009
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vertical line you didn't flush toilet ?
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Jan.05.2009
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vertical line lehish it
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Jan.05.2009
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glpolsk

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