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vertical line Posted on Nov.06.2008 @ 11:39PM EDT by Rebecca

Please..how does love apply to zen?

I value all your your input


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Reply from noumenal
Nov.07.2008
12:10AM EDT 
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Love is what's left when all the words have flown away.

Love is letting go of fear - Jampolski

Love is Zen

Love is empty presence

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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.07.2008
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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.07.2008
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Is love compassion?  thank you

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Reply from noumenal
Nov.07.2008
01:38AM EDT 
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vertical line I guess we can define words in various ways. But yes I'd say love would have to include compassion. Wouldn't you?
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Nov.07.2008
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vertical line Forgiveness too!
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Reply from 9999999
Nov.07.2008
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12 dictionary results for: love


love
Pronunciation [luhv]  
1.    a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.

This love is not zen.  A "person" is an idea in a body.  It was made up and shoved down the throat of that body of yours ever since it was born.  This love requires two "people".  It is nice in a dream for a dream.  It doesn't seem to have the potential to do anyone any good at understanding what is true or "waking up".

2.    a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.

This love is not zen.  This love is actually greed.  You only love what you get from some else.

3.    sexual passion or desire.

This seems to be biological attraction.

4.    a person toward whom love is felt; beloved person; sweetheart.

Why do you love this person?  You love what they can offer you: body parts, intelligence, personality, security, someone to pass the time with.

5.    (used in direct address as a term of endearment, affection, or the like): Would you like to see a movie, love?

A name.

6.    a love affair; an intensely amorous incident; amour.
7.    sexual intercourse; copulation.
8.    (initial capital letter ) a personification of sexual affection, as Eros or Cupid.

See #3.

9.    affectionate concern for the well-being of others: the love of one's neighbor.

This love is not zen.  You "love your neighbor" because it is a culturally hip thing to do.  You love the idea of being a loving person.  What has your neighbor done for you lately?

10.    strong predilection, enthusiasm, or liking for anything: her love of books.

You love the books because you get a kick out of it.

11.    the object or thing so liked: The theater was her great love.

An objectification.

12.    the benevolent affection of God for His creatures, or the reverent affection due from them to God.

This love is not zen.  Zen is not about being the center of attention, being showered in god’s or buddha’s love, or being in an elevated state of purple pink heart third eye consciousness.  It is not about having a following or reciting mantras or doing postures or being vegetarian.  It is not about loving others or being your brother’s keeper.  It’s not about how much you love god or about how much god loves you.

 

13.    Chiefly Tennis. a score of zero; nothing.

 

This love could be zen.


14.    a word formerly used in communications to represent the letter L.

 

Lol.

 

 

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Nov.07.2008
02:41AM EDT 
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vertical line you don't beat your own heart


but that's just lucky ; )
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Nov.07.2008
07:46AM EDT 
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There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear

. . . . . . .


We better stop, hey, what's that sound

Everybody look what's going down

Stop, hey, what's that sound

Everybody look what's going down

Stop, now, what's that sound

Everybody look what's going down

Stop, children, what's that sound

Everybody look what's going down

boom tss tss booom cha


if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill ya



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Nov.07.2008
07:50AM EDT 
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Quote: "Forgiveness too!"
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if there's LOcompassionVE there's nothing to forgive

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Nov.07.2008
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Lol : Lots of love".........

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Reply from 9999999
Nov.07.2008
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vertical line Love you two >:D
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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.07.2008
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Reply from boymonk
Nov.07.2008
03:21PM EDT 
vertical line Love is the ultimate koan. Yeah!
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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.07.2008
04:18PM EDT 
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vertical line What is koan?
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Nov.07.2008
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vertical line A set of words designed to still the mind. Classic example: The sound of one hand clapping.
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.07.2008
07:32PM EDT 
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Reply from noumenal
Nov.07.2008
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vertical line Because love is the gap between the words
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Nov.07.2008
07:38PM EDT 
vertical line Makes it hard to explain then:)
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Nov.07.2008
09:21PM EDT 
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vertical line this thread is making me laugh


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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.07.2008
10:22PM EDT 
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Why does this thread make you laugh?

Laughing is good

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Reply from lehish
Nov.07.2008
10:26PM EDT 
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rebecca

If someone comes to the dom with anger, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be in peace.

If someone comes to the dom with greed, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be sharing together in peace.

If someone comes to the dom with light or enlightenment, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be in peace.

If someone comes to the dom with darkness or delusion, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be in peace.

If someone comes to the dom with knowledge or experience, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be in harmony.

If someone comes to the dom with hate, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be in peace.

If someone comes to the dom with love, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be in peace.

If someone comes to the dom with dirt or trash, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be clean and clear.

If someone comes to the dom with a blue sky, he will recognize that and put it aside, then that person and himself will be walking together on the road right in front of them.

ChonTri

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Nov.07.2008
10:57PM EDT 
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vertical line i actually dont know that this thread is making me laugh

maybe i'm just laughing >:P
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Reply from lehish
Nov.07.2008
11:22PM EDT 
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vertical line then maybe keep reading this thread
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Nov.07.2008
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Nov.07.2008
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Quote: "u sure? "
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didn't see word "maybe" ? ;)

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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.08.2008
12:17AM EDT 
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vertical line I liked the dictionary play.... Some of us(ok me!) just need to be reminded....told....exposed to what is real.... and you all dynamically beautiful at it... Yah I said me.... Isnt that like a swear word or something?
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Nov.08.2008
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you know what love is.

youve experienced it before.

any mental conjuration isnt it.

long for another.

plus so much more.

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Nov.08.2008
02:28AM EDT 
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Quote: "u sure? "
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didn't see word "maybe" ? ;)

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did i?

i'm not sure

>:D
 <3
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Nov.08.2008
03:40AM EDT 
vertical line I love biscuits. Meow mix, meow mix, please deliver.
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.08.2008
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vertical line What in existence is not zen?
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Nov.08.2008
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vertical line Quote: "What in existence is not zen?"
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Every other word-experience identified samely (but individually)?

Never-ever:

35.   Every-Minute Zen

Zen students are with their masters at least ten years before they presume to teach others. Nan-in was visited by Tenno, who, having passed his apprenticeship, had become a teacher. The day happened to be rainy, so Tenno wore wooden clogs and carried an umbrella. After greeting him Nan-in remarked: "I suppose you left your wodden clogs in the vestibule. I want to know if your umbrella is on the right or left side of the clogs."

Tenno, confused, had no instant answer. He realized that he was unable to carry his Zen every minute. He became Nan-in's pupil, and he studied six more years to accomplish his every-minute Zen.

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Reply from immortal 1
Nov.08.2008
06:27AM EDT 
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Love is too much to ask for, too much to hope for, too much to expect, and too much to refuse.

If love comes your way all you can do is hang onto your ass and go for the ride.  You can always jump off if you don't like where it goes.

But love is a thing like any other thing, no more or less than hate, or indifference.

Why as why?  It just is.  Take it or leave it, or whatever you want to do.

It does not really matter.

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Nov.08.2008
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you know what love is.

youve experienced it before.

any mental conjuration isnt it.

long for another.

plus so much more.

"
......... A budding poet I see
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Nov.08.2008
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you know what love is.

youve experienced it before.

any mental conjuration isnt it.

long for another.

plus so much more.

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haha.....didnt even notice......quess so.

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Nov.08.2008
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Quote: "u sure? "
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didn&apos;t see word "maybe" ? ;)

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did i?

i&apos;m not sure

>:D
 <3
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did i?

i&apos;m not sure

>:D
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<3
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Nov.08.2008
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Love is too much to ask for, too much to hope for, too much to expect, and too much to refuse.

If love comes your way all you can do is hang onto your ass and go for the ride.  You can always jump off if you don't like where it goes.

But love is a thing like any other thing, no more or less than hate, or indifference.

Why as why?  It just is.  Take it or leave it, or whatever you want to do.

It does not really matter.

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Why?
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Nov.09.2008
02:11PM EDT 
vertical line Others are my main concern. When I notice something of mine, I steal it and give it to others.
~Shantideva

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This is how love is:
So what if your head must roll -
What is there to cry about?
~Kabir
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Nov.09.2008
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Although there are many different parts and aspects such as the hands;
As a body that is to be protected they are one,
Likewise all the different sentient beings in their pleasure and their pain
Have a wish to be happy that is the same as mine.

The suffering that I experience
Does not cause any harm to others.
But that suffering is mine because of my conceiving of myself as "I";
Thereby it becomes unbearable.

Likewise the misery of others
Does not befall me.
Nevertheless, by conceiving of others as "I" their suffering becomes mine;
Therefore it too should be hard to bear.

Hence I should dispel the misery of others
Because it is suffering, just like my own,
And I should benefit others
Because they are sentient beings, just like myself.

When both myself and others
Are similar in that we wish to be happy,
What is so special about me?
Why do I strive for my happiness alone?

~Shantideva
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