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  Posted on Aug.15.2009 @ 09:32AM EDT by chontri

Sakuladayi the Wanderer asked the Buddha:
-What is the past and what is the future?
The Buddha answered:
-Let the past be and forget the future. I will teach you that... continue...

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vertical line Posted on Nov.11.2008 @ 07:29AM EDT by 9999999
here's the situation:
-i'm on leaky boat on a shoreless sea
-the storm is raging and the clock is ticking
-the sky is black
-the sea is black
-i dont know where i am nor who what when and how
-the ship might go down in 15 minutes or 15 years
-i am totally alone and the ship will sink one way or another--that's a fact


at what point do i stop smelling my own farts?


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Reply from 9999999
Nov.11.2008
07:29AM EDT 
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vertical line i'm not asking anyone
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Reply from 9999999
Nov.11.2008
07:37AM EDT 
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vertical line i realize i'm sitting on this boat with a few people and they're taking pills to pass the time

God loves us
Buddha love everywhere
Reincarnation

Heaven and hell go down nicely for some
Or telepathically pledging your allegiance to Jesus goes down nicely


The so-called zen crowd loves koans and clever guesswork, sitting in full lotus, staring at a dot on the wall, drinking their own piss and eating berries

Will I jump ship or will I throw them overboard?

I'm not asking anyone.
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Reply from emancipate
Nov.11.2008
07:52AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "at what point do i stop smelling my own farts? "
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Like a fine wine.

Do farts float?
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Reply from ______
Nov.11.2008
08:04AM EDT 
vertical line If you're going down, just go down, smiling. See ya!
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Reply from 9999999
Nov.11.2008
08:22AM EDT 
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vertical line :)
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Reply from Rebecca
Nov.11.2008
01:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Maybe you should allow yourself to drown
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Reply from zen-zen
Nov.12.2008
01:35PM EDT 
vertical line Oh well, isn't death inevitable anyway? Being on the ship wouldn't change much. The goal would be much more clear.
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Reply from -----0
Nov.14.2008
02:30PM EDT 
vertical line I personally dislike water getting into my lungs
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Reply from 9999999
Nov.14.2008
04:16PM EDT 
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vertical line stop buying tranquilizers
get out of my drugged-up stupor
throw everyone overboard
patch up the ship
bail out the accumulated water
drift about the open shoreless ocean free and alone
and die with a smile on my face (and no water in my lungs)



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Reply from emancipate
Nov.15.2008
05:44AM EDT 
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throw everyone overboard
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You're already over-bored.
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.15.2008
07:34AM EDT 
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here's the situation:
-i'm on leaky boat on a shoreless sea
-the storm is raging and the clock is ticking
-the sky is black
-the sea is black
-i dont know where i am nor who what when and how
-the ship might go down in 15 minutes or 15 years
-i am totally alone and the ship will sink one way or another--that's a fact


at what point do i stop smelling my own farts?

What do you mean???

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Reply from 9999999
Nov.15.2008
03:43PM EDT 
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vertical line until i lost my face to the fact that my beliefs were my beliefs (beliefs that had to do with "me") and that there really wasnt a "me" in here it seemed like i was a spokesman for a trip that i had never taken.  for this post, instead of typing in the form of  you you you i used "me my mine" to be honest about the kind of attitude necessary for the kind of waking up i'm talking about--it's about ME waking up and not YOU.

i see the leaky boat on a shoreless sea as a "face the facts and get real" analogy:  I AM ALONE AND I WILL DIE AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING SO TALKING ABOUT YOU YOU YOU IS A NON-ISSUE WHEN I REALLY MEAN ME ME ME. i'm the one who is alone on a sinking ship--not you.

if i want to wake up then dealing with other people (showing off, dropping quotes, pushing beliefs, pushing systems, trying to change them) would be a waste of time  when the biggest zombie is me(which at this point is ok because i'm not-me)

so after a bump into no-self, the only way for me to go on is to expose everything about my accumulated beliefs and personality until nothing remains but nothing--which already is.  It sounds backwards but oh well--i have nothing to offer you and there isnt a way you can help me because it's just me here.  

i also had to accept the possibility of everyone putting me on about this stuff.  you could all be putting on a show about how stupid you all are--that you're all awake and keeping it to yourselves like the greedy mongrels you are.  you could all be putting on a show just for me--i have no way of knowing for sure.

this whole thread might be a show ; )

the one thing i know for sure is that--well--i wont spoil it
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.15.2008
04:03PM EDT 
vertical line Who cares, Chelsea is HOT!
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Reply from Snibbler
Nov.15.2008
04:07PM EDT 
vertical line (Just enjoy the ride sevenO`9, can`t get much worse than this now can it?:))
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Reply from ______
Nov.15.2008
04:32PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "until i lost my face to the fact that my beliefs were my beliefs (beliefs that had to do with "me") and that there really wasnt a "me" in here it seemed like i was a spokesman for a trip that i had never taken.  for this post, instead of typing in the form of  you you you i used "me my mine" to be honest about the kind of attitude necessary for the kind of waking up i'm talking about--it's about ME waking up and not YOU.

i see the leaky boat on a shoreless sea as a "face the facts and get real" analogy:  I AM ALONE AND I WILL DIE AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING SO TALKING ABOUT YOU YOU YOU IS A NON-ISSUE WHEN I REALLY MEAN ME ME ME. i'm the one who is alone on a sinking ship--not you.

if i want to wake up then dealing with other people (showing off, dropping quotes, pushing beliefs, pushing systems, trying to change them) would be a waste of time  when the biggest zombie is me(which at this point is ok because i'm not-me)

so after a bump into no-self, the only way for me to go on is to expose everything about my accumulated beliefs and personality until nothing remains but nothing--which already is.  It sounds backwards but oh well--i have nothing to offer you and there isnt a way you can help me because it's just me here.  

i also had to accept the possibility of everyone putting me on about this stuff.  you could all be putting on a show about how stupid you all are--that you're all awake and keeping it to yourselves like the greedy mongrels you are.  you could all be putting on a show just for me--i have no way of knowing for sure.

this whole thread might be a show ; )

the one thing i know for sure is that--well--i wont spoil it
"
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This sinking ship zombie business - are you talking metaphor or codes or something?Or are you a zombie on a sinking ship?  You could accept the possibility of everyone putting you on - could all be awake and keeping it?  What do you want?  Do you know what you want?  Let's hear it.
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.15.2008
05:16PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "

here's the situation:
-i'm on leaky boat on a shoreless sea
-the storm is raging and the clock is ticking
-the sky is black
-the sea is black
-i dont know where i am nor who what when and how
-the ship might go down in 15 minutes or 15 years
-i am totally alone and the ship will sink one way or another--that's a fact


at what point do i stop smelling my own farts?

What do you mean???

What experience are you?

"
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Reply from 9999999
Nov.15.2008
05:49PM EDT 
Email 9999999
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "until i lost my face to the fact that my beliefs were my beliefs (beliefs that had to do with "me") and that there really wasnt a "me" in here it seemed like i was a spokesman for a trip that i had never taken.  for this post, instead of typing in the form of  you you you i used "me my mine" to be honest about the kind of attitude necessary for the kind of waking up i'm talking about--it's about ME waking up and not YOU.

i see the leaky boat on a shoreless sea as a "face the facts and get real" analogy:  I AM ALONE AND I WILL DIE AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING SO TALKING ABOUT YOU YOU YOU IS A NON-ISSUE WHEN I REALLY MEAN ME ME ME. i'm the one who is alone on a sinking ship--not you.

if i want to wake up then dealing with other people (showing off, dropping quotes, pushing beliefs, pushing systems, trying to change them) would be a waste of time  when the biggest zombie is me(which at this point is ok because i'm not-me)

so after a bump into no-self, the only way for me to go on is to expose everything about my accumulated beliefs and personality until nothing remains but nothing--which already is.  It sounds backwards but oh well--i have nothing to offer you and there isnt a way you can help me because it's just me here.  

i also had to accept the possibility of everyone putting me on about this stuff.  you could all be putting on a show about how stupid you all are--that you're all awake and keeping it to yourselves like the greedy mongrels you are.  you could all be putting on a show just for me--i have no way of knowing for sure.

this whole thread might be a show ; )

the one thing i know for sure is that--well--i wont spoil it
"
.........

This sinking ship zombie business - are you talking metaphor or codes or something?Or are you a zombie on a sinking ship?  You could accept the possibility of everyone putting you on - could all be awake and keeping it?  What do you want?  Do you know what you want?  Let's hear it.
"
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Simply, I know that I can't know for certain anything other than the fact that it's just me here--and i'm not here either.  Zombies, business, sinking ships, possibilities, everyone, back and fourth, awake or asleep, the positive and negative sides of them all are beliefs. 

It's not that i replace/add to the belief that people are asleep with the belief that there is a possibility that they are awake and keeping it.  I'm just identifying it as belief. 

What do I want? Do I know what I want?

I'm inclined to blurt out and regurgitate something i've heard from someone else.  I will answer when I get back from a walk.
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Nov.15.2008
06:11PM EDT 
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vertical line I have no answer to that question.  If I did, I would be making it up. 
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Nov.15.2008
09:34PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "I have no answer to that question.  If I did, I would be making it up.  "
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It's a show fo' sho!

Questions, beliefs, feelings. Confusion, uncertainty. Losing gaining. Nobody cares (that much).

"Chelsea Clinton is hot."

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Reply from 9999999
Nov.16.2008
02:31AM EDT 
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vertical line  to know the truth at any cost
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Reply from 9999999
Nov.16.2008
02:34AM EDT 
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vertical line which would be to unknow what's untrue

are my beliefs true? well, it's true they are beliefs in my memory--but i didnt make them up
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Nov.16.2008
02:35AM EDT 
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vertical line which is just more regurgitation and show :p

and a perfect circumstance

to stop posting
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Nov.16.2008
04:07AM EDT 
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Quote: "Simply, I know that I can't know for certain anything other than the fact that it's just me here--and i'm not here either."
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Can you hear birds chirping in the background? If you can, that will do.  Everything is taken care of, already. No need inventing more.

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Reply from emancipate
Nov.16.2008
05:27AM EDT 
vertical line Truth is over-rated. And, obviously, you can't handle it. It's one hot-potato.

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Nov.16.2008
08:43AM EDT 
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