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vertical line Posted on Nov.24.2008 @ 05:50AM EDT by IZIZIZ

When one becomes IS, what is what anymore?

When ine is not. What is what.


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Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.24.2008
05:51AM EDT 
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When one becomes IS, what is what anymore?

When one is not. What is what.

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Reply from zen-zen
Nov.24.2008
07:47AM EDT 
vertical line Not much to say I guess.
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Nov.24.2008
08:00AM EDT 
vertical line There's a question in there somewhere, he answered.
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Reply from emancipate
Nov.24.2008
08:13AM EDT 
vertical line Koan Time!

One Note of Zen

After Kakua visited the emperor he disappeared and no one knew what became of him. He was the first Japanese to study Zen in China, but since he showed nothing of it, save one note, he is not remembered for having brought Zen into his country.

Kakua visited China and accepted the true teaching. He did not travel while he was there. Meditating constantly, he lived on a remote part of a mountain. Whenever people found him and asked him to preach he would say a few words and then move to another part of the mountain where he could be found less easily.

The emperor heard about Kakua when he returned to Japan and asked him to preach Zen for his edification and that of his subjects.

Kakua stood before the emperor in silence. He then produced a flute from the folds of his robe, and blew one short note. Bowing politely, he disappeared.
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Reply from theduncan
Nov.24.2008
03:34PM EDT 
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Reply from zen-zen
Nov.25.2008
03:21AM EDT 
vertical line Funny ripples.
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Dec.01.2008
07:13AM EDT 
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NAN-IN AND THE CUP OF TEA


Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"

Muju

This is why you Buddhists have a problem responding to something like this.

All we get is crap from the diversionists who reckon that they walk around with light coming out of their ears.

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Reply from zen-zen
Dec.01.2008
07:38AM EDT 
vertical line It seems that there were no questions asked and no answers required.
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Reply from emancipate
Dec.02.2008
07:40AM EDT 
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This is why you Buddhists have a problem responding to something like this.

All we get is crap from the diversionists who reckon that they walk around with light coming out of their ears.

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Assumptions.

No one is listening.
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Reply from Master Zen
Dec.03.2008
04:09AM EDT 
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Reply from lehish
Dec.03.2008
04:59AM EDT 
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hahaha

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Dec.03.2008
07:37AM EDT 
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When one becomes IS, what is what anymore?

Its a bit hard to work out isnt it?

Drop your guard and give it a go.

If you cant answer it, dont bother with gramatic non-sense. Let some newbies try. I will then be happy to respond with my interpretation.

For all you enlightened beings, stay out.

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Reply from lehish
Dec.03.2008
09:19AM EDT 
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When one becomes IS, "
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becomes ?

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Reply from zen-zen
Dec.03.2008
09:31AM EDT 
vertical line He said "stay out" :D
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Dec.03.2008
09:43AM EDT 
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hmmmm....dunno what he’s thinking, but I can see what’s happening . . . . ah go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on , go on, .............. . . . . go on, go on, go on, go on. . . . .flappinya matinee sky full o’ snows. 

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Dec.04.2008
12:43AM EDT 
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Quote: "He said "stay out" :D"
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ah yes :D

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Dec.04.2008
12:47AM EDT 
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hmmmm....dunno what he’s thinking, but I can see what’s happening . . . . ah go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on , go on, .............. . . . . go on, go on, go on, go on. . . . .flappinya matinee sky full o’ snows. 

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 no sky full o snows ;)

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Reply from zen-zen
Dec.04.2008
01:32AM EDT 
vertical line Master Zen: "consciousness is solid"

Earlier MZ called himself with a funny name, perhaps it was 'brickhead'
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Reply from lehish
Dec.04.2008
01:34AM EDT 
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Reply from zen-zen
Dec.04.2008
02:51AM EDT 
vertical line Logically zen-zen should be called 'brickhead' as well! :)
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Reply from Master Zen
Dec.04.2008
03:03AM EDT 
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that's blockhead

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Dec.04.2008
06:54AM EDT 
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mmmm. Attachment.

mmmm. Gramatic non-sense.

mmmm. Habitualism.

mmmm. Loise Hays.

mmmm. No newbies. All run away.

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Dec.04.2008
07:43AM EDT 
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Its a bit

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Wish I had two cents...
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Dec.04.2008
09:24AM EDT 
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Quote: "Logically zen-zen should be called 'brickhead' as well! :)"
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logically ? :)

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Reply from ______
Dec.04.2008
09:52AM EDT 
vertical line He said, he said : "Stay out."  Because he says he's a we who's getting crap from the diversionistas (think that's what he said).  Let's hope we's fortunate enough to have enough toilet papers.  
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Reply from zen-zen
Dec.04.2008
10:37AM EDT 
vertical line Master Zen: "that's blockhead"

Oh that is correct. Well here's another one. Two blockeads.
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Dec.04.2008
11:07AM EDT 
vertical line To do: get unblocked.
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Dec.04.2008
11:25AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "To do: get unblocked."
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Woodchuck!
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Dec.04.2008
11:44AM EDT 
vertical line Hot dam, look at those hands. 
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Dec.05.2008
02:38AM EDT 
vertical line Get woodchucked?
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Dec.05.2008
08:25AM EDT 
vertical line eh?
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Dec.05.2008
01:08PM EDT 
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vertical line trees say less, be one, or leave it out, and be one of many
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Dec.05.2008
01:26PM EDT 
vertical line ok, thanks - it must be true - the trees are more - you think trees say less.
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Dec.05.2008
02:30PM EDT 
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vertical line Snow say less. Tree say snow. Less tree is snowing. More tree in blowing.
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Dec.05.2008
05:22PM EDT 
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Dec.05.2008
06:53PM EDT 
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You guys are good.

I feel like singing.

Manfred Mann. Blinded by the light.

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Reply from IZIZIZ
Dec.05.2008
07:01PM EDT 
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Quote: "consciousness is solid"
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How?

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Dec.05.2008
08:30PM EDT 
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Quote: "consciousness is solid"
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How?

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Why?

See?

Contains opposites.

Nonduality on the other hand, well, there no other hand. Not a solid at all, or any, clapping.
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Dec.05.2008
10:31PM EDT 
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Quote: "consciousness is solid"
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How?

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Why?

See?

Contains opposites.

Nonduality on the other hand, well, there no other hand. Not a solid at all, or any, clapping.
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Why?

See?

Contains opposites.

Nonduality on the other hand, well, there no other hand. Not a solid at all, or any, clapping.
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Really. Where are we for you to be telling me this?

Separate nonduality from consciousness before you answer.

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Dec.06.2008
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Quote: "consciousness is solid"
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How?

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Why?

See?

Contains opposites.

Nonduality on the other hand, well, there no other hand. Not a solid at all, or any, clapping.
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Why?

See?

Contains opposites.

Nonduality on the other hand, well, there no other hand. Not a solid at all, or any, clapping.
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Really. Where are we for you to be telling me this?

Separate nonduality from consciousness before you answer.

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i don't do it, it does me
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Dec.06.2008
08:03AM EDT 
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You guys are good.

I feel like singing.

Manfred Mann. Blinded by the light.

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Another rumor in the night.

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Reply from ______
Dec.06.2008
08:24AM EDT 
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Manfred Man’s cover version is a poor substitute for the real thing.


Another runner in the night . . . 



Blinded By The Light

Bruce Springsteen


Madman drummers bummers and Indians in the summer with a teenage diplomat

In the dumps with the mumps as the adolescent pumps his way into his hat

With a boulder on my shoulder feelin' kinda older I tripped the merry-go-round

With this very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing the calliope crashed to the ground

Some all-hot half-shot was headin' for the hot spot snappin' his fingers clappin' his hands

And some fleshpot mascot was tied into a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand

And now young Scott with a slingshot finally found a tender spot and throws his lover in the sand

And some bloodshot forget-me-not whispers daddy's within earshot save the buckshot turn up the band


And she was blinded by the light

Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night

Blinded by the light

She got down but she never got tight, but she'll make it alright


Some brimstone baritone anti-cyclone rolling stone preacher from the east

He says: "Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in its funny bone, that's where they expect it least"

And some new-mown chaperone was standin' in the corner all alone watchin' the young girls dance

And some fresh-sown moonstone was messin' with his frozen zone to remind him of the feeling of romance


Yeah he was blinded by the light

Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night

Blinded by the light

He got down but she never got tight, but he's gonna make it tonight


Some silicone sister with her manager's mister told me I got what it takes

She said I'll turn you on sonny, to something strong if you play that song with the funky break,

And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather chart to see if it was safe to go outside

And little Early-Pearly came in by her curly-wurly and asked me if I needed a ride,

Oh, some hazard from Harvard was skunked on beer playin' backyard bombardier

Yes and Scotland Yard was trying hard, they sent a dude with a calling card,

he said, do what you like, but don't do it here

Well I jumped up, turnedaround, spit in the air, fell on the ground

Asked him which was the way back home

He said take a right at the light, keep goin' straight until night, and then boy, you're on your own


And now in Zanzibar a shootin' star was ridin' in a side car hummin' a lunar tune

Yes, and the avatar said blow the bar but first remove the cookie jar we're gonna teach those boys to laugh too soon


And some kidnapped handicap was complainin' that he caught the clap from some mousetrap he bought last night,


Well I unsnapped his skull cap and between his ears I saw

a gap but figured he'd be all right


He was just blinded by the light

Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night

Blinded by the light

Mama always told me not to look into the sights of the sun

Oh but mama that's where the fun is

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