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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: PERCEPTION
vertical line Posted on Jan.24.2009 @ 06:45PM EDT by 9999999
Perception is all there is. Perception itself is neither subject nor object, yet the subject-object duality may seem to appear in perception.

What-you-are never appears in perception.

A perception that subject and object are one--by this understanding will one awake to the truth of Zen.
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Jan.24.2009
06:55PM EDT 
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vertical line Perception is like an object without a subject.

However, in perception appears a character with a subjective perspective.
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Jan.24.2009
07:20PM EDT 
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Jan.24.2009
10:34PM EDT 
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Reply from -----0
Jan.25.2009
05:12AM EDT 
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Quote: "A perception that subject and object are one--by this understanding will one awake to the truth of Zen."
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How old were you when you learned about subject and object for the first time?

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Reply from 9999999
Jan.25.2009
12:40PM EDT 
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vertical line Either:

1. When I learned my name

2. When I read about it in high school
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Jan.25.2009
01:29PM EDT 
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vertical line So...3 or 18.. I did not understand it when I first read about it.
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Jan.25.2009
01:44PM EDT 
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vertical line Understanding is free of words. Being with a dying person, I become silent, and feel what cannot be worded.
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Jan.25.2009
03:03PM EDT 
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Quote: "So...3 or 18.. I did not understand it when I first read about it. "
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You don't understand it now either. But for some reason you believe that you should understand it. Try to remember those days before you were 3.

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Jan.25.2009
03:25PM EDT 
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vertical line Birth itself provided the first real pain of separation from the non-worded womb. So, when we exist in silence we return to the peace that no word can ever attain or supply. The first cry of a newborn is created in the form of a first word, created out of our first love in formless silence.
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Jan.25.2009
03:41PM EDT 
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Quote: "So...3 or 18.. I did not understand it when I first read about it. "
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You don't understand it now either. But for some reason you believe that you should understand it. Try to remember those days before you were 3.

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Jan.25.2009
03:45PM EDT 
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vertical line Actually, I don't understand it and never have, never will, never need to.
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Jan.25.2009
04:00PM EDT 
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Jan.26.2009
01:42PM EDT 
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Jan.26.2009
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vertical line I am an ant, with feelings.
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Jan.26.2009
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Jan.26.2009
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Jan.26.2009
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Jan.26.2009
05:40PM EDT 
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vertical line just "no"
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Jan.26.2009
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Jan.28.2009
01:28PM EDT 
vertical line Just say nope pope.  Say, it's a marriage of heaven and hell and the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is: Infinite. [Blakey] Then say, if pity is divine, self-pity is diabolical. And then take all your clothes off - check this moon out. 
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Reply from CrazyHorse
Feb.01.2009
11:37AM EDT 
vertical line About  perception.  I  know I  am  fooled  by  it. Perception seeks  to  separate  me  from  my  continuity  with  the  universe  at  large. This  intended  sense  of separateness is  therefore  an  illusion as I am actually  the  universe  expressing  itself.    I  think  this sense  of  separateness   is a  property of  the  mind / ego  that  makes me  feel  alienated from  everything  else. It is  a  powerful property.  But  it  is not  correct IMO.  

I  try  and  meditate  on  that. 

http://truckingmybluesaway.blogspot.com/2009/01/today-and-tomorrow.html
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Feb.01.2009
08:41PM EDT 
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Quote: "I am an ant, with feelings. "
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where ?

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Feb.01.2009
10:28PM EDT 
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Quote: "I am an ant, with feelings. "
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where ?

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Feelings have no questions.
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Feb.02.2009
12:55AM EDT 
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Quote: "I am an ant, with feelings. "
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where ?

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Feelings have no questions.
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Feelings have no questions.
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the question wasn't from feelings since wasn't asking for lehish

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