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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: HAVE FAITH
vertical line Posted on Feb.11.2009 @ 10:35AM EDT by so_teh

Having faith has become important to me.
I have gained some wisdom which really has
just strengthened my faith I have in my self.

Just somehow pull it together for yourself, you know...
Whatever fortune or misfortune that has happened, happening or
is going to happen is all part of the perfect alignment set for
you.

To the best of your ability just live with a whole hearted complete experience,
to be wonderful as it is.

Gautama Buddha

This existence of ours is as transient as autumn clouds.
To watch the birth and death of beings is like looking at
the movements of a dance.
A lifetime is like a flash of lightning in the sky,
Rushing by like a torrent down a steep mountain. 


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Reply from shayne
Feb.11.2009
10:52AM EDT 
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just strengthened my faith I have in my self.

that phrase I like.

to have faith in your self over and above what others think or say to you.

you may refer to me as JEDI master shayne.

haha.

just joking.

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Reply from so_teh
Feb.11.2009
10:57AM EDT 
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I was thinking about watching the star wars old school trilogy soon (on VHS)

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Reply from shayne
Feb.11.2009
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I was thinking about watching the star wars old school trilogy soon (on VHS)

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they use some zen terminology in the new ones.

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Reply from -----0
Feb.11.2009
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knowing that you already have everything and nobody can ever take anything away

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
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knowing that you already have everything and body can ever take anything away

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Reply from CrazyHorse
Feb.11.2009
05:40PM EDT 
vertical line Faith  in  the  traditional  sense of  Western religions  comes  down  to believing  the  unbelievable.  It was  why I  threw the baby,bath water and wash tub  out.  
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Reply from theduncan
Feb.11.2009
07:12PM EDT 
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vertical line Most people think of faith in that way...especially in the West.  But when we realize that without doubt there can be no faith. 

It does start with ourselves too...faith, compassion...if we can't have these things with ourselves, we can to a certain degree only pretend with others.
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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
07:15PM EDT 
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vertical line In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith.
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Reply from shayne
Feb.11.2009
07:20PM EDT 
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Quote: "In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith. "
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i keep faith in myself compared to.

haha.

if you had GOD speak to you johny cat youd go insane.

your too unfocused.

heck i thought god was speaking to me when i was at the height of my bipolar.

time to take meds when this happens.

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Feb.11.2009
07:23PM EDT 
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Quote: "Faith  in  the  traditional  sense of  Western religions  comes  down  to believing  the  unbelievable.  It was  why I  threw the baby,bath water and wash tub  out.   "
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pretty much.

compared to what is.

i prefer to believe in what is.

and what is is regardless of what i want to beleive or not.

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
07:25PM EDT 
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Quote: "In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith. "
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i keep faith in myself compared to.

haha.

if you had GOD speak to you johny cat youd go insane.

your too unfocused.

heck i thought god was speaking to me when i was at the height of my bipolar.

time to take meds when this happens.

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Is that so?

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Reply from shayne
Feb.11.2009
07:29PM EDT 
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Quote: "In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith. "
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i keep faith in myself compared to.

haha.

if you had GOD speak to you johny cat youd go insane.

your too unfocused.

heck i thought god was speaking to me when i was at the height of my bipolar.

time to take meds when this happens.

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maybe.

haha.

ok if you feel god is speaking to you then so be it.

personally i dont NEED or WANT it.

im content just in the fact i got a soul.

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
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Quote: "In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith. "
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i keep faith in myself compared to.

haha.

if you had GOD speak to you johny cat youd go insane.

your too unfocused.

heck i thought god was speaking to me when i was at the height of my bipolar.

time to take meds when this happens.

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Is that so?
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Is that so?
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maybe.

haha.

ok if you feel god is speaking to you then so be it.

personally i dont NEED or WANT it.

im content just in the fact i got a soul.

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.........God is at the soul of what you always got.
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Reply from shayne
Feb.11.2009
08:09PM EDT 
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Quote: "In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith. "
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i keep faith in myself compared to.

haha.

if you had GOD speak to you johny cat youd go insane.

your too unfocused.

heck i thought god was speaking to me when i was at the height of my bipolar.

time to take meds when this happens.

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Is that so?
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maybe.

haha.

ok if you feel god is speaking to you then so be it.

personally i dont NEED or WANT it.

im content just in the fact i got a soul.

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thats what you think and doesnt really apply to me.

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
08:32PM EDT 
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Quote: "In faith, belief, I generally shut up around people. Silence is the largest part of listening to God, through faith. "
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i keep faith in myself compared to.

haha.

if you had GOD speak to you johny cat youd go insane.

your too unfocused.

heck i thought god was speaking to me when i was at the height of my bipolar.

time to take meds when this happens.

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Is that so?
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maybe.

haha.

ok if you feel god is speaking to you then so be it.

personally i dont NEED or WANT it.

im content just in the fact i got a soul.

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thats what you think and doesnt really apply to me.

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God has no needs here.
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Reply from so_teh
Feb.11.2009
08:50PM EDT 
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hmmm

I post on faith today

I'm in the car driving past a church... The sign says "Worry Stops When Faith Begins"

Hmmm 

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
08:54PM EDT 
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Reply from shayne
Feb.11.2009
08:57PM EDT 
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Quote: "Thinking stops enlightenment. "
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it does not.

thinking is part of the whole spectrum of existance.

to be thoughtful is good.

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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.11.2009
09:16PM EDT 
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Reply from Woodsman
Feb.12.2009
08:08AM EDT 
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vertical line What faith is, is substance, of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1  whoah!
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