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vertical line Posted on Mar.06.2009 @ 07:41AM EDT by chontri

Jumping from the views of being to the views of nothing,
this is like the sun in the east that is covered by a black cloud. [Hui-neng]
Jumping from the views of nothing to the views of being,
this is like the moon in the west that is covered by a black cloud.
When mixing the views of being with the views of nothing,
the sun and the moon get double clouded.


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Mar.06.2009
01:42PM EDT 
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vertical line If I smile I might start laughing
and if I start laughing....
.....I might never stop.
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Mar.06.2009
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Quote: "If I smile I might start laughing
and if I start laughing....
.....I might never stop.
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The net was set about ten hours now.  It's supposed to catch a whale but it just got a carp.

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Reply from immortal 1
Mar.07.2009
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The full moon is also beautiful in the full light of day.

Above a snowy mountain peak, it is as if God dotted the i.

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Reply from chontri
Mar.07.2009
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The sun shines at midnight, no place is not bright.

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Reply from clangor
Mar.07.2009
06:34AM EDT 
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The full moon is also beautiful in the full light of day.

Above a snowy mountain peak, it is as if God dotted the i.

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I would think, God doesn't see the moon.

He sees through and controls (I guess) the quarks. The potentials of matter to interact with matter. His 'view' or 'perspective' is completely unrelated to ours which is built upon and within his quarks... or something? Nor does he 'understand' what is living and what is dead. Accidental evolution or intelligent design, a humanistic God is hard to fathom.

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Mar.07.2009
02:17PM EDT 
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vertical line Remember those old fashioned outhouses?  God does, or did, until we flushed, it, away to our neighbors, underground... but he rose again on the third day, as a red rose. 
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Mar.09.2009
08:33AM EDT 
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Quote: "If I smile I might start laughing
and if I start laughing....
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The net was set about ten hours now.  It's supposed to catch a whale but it just got a carp.

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If a whale swims in, the whale will swim out.
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The sun shines at midnight, no place is not bright.

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Tings the dome, looking north.
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Reply from rebenelite
Mar.09.2009
08:46AM EDT 
vertical line All this jumping and mixing... Just sit still.
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Mar.09.2009
08:48AM EDT 
vertical line Why do you tell yourself that thing?
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Mar.09.2009
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vertical line I'll tell you once you stop moving.
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Mar.09.2009
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Mar.09.2009
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The sun shines at midnight, no place is not bright.

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Tings the dome, looking north. "
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Tings the dome, looking north.
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When one'd like to see the north star, he would look south.

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Mar.09.2009
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Quote: "All this jumping and mixing... Just sit still. "
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Jumping and mixing are one destination, sitting still is another destination.

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Mar.10.2009
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Mar.10.2009
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Mar.10.2009
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vertical line None of the above.
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Mar.10.2009
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Reply from immortal 1
Mar.11.2009
05:35AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "

The full moon is also beautiful in the full light of day.

Above a snowy mountain peak, it is as if God dotted the i.

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I would think, God doesn't see the moon.

He sees through and controls (I guess) the quarks. The potentials of matter to interact with matter. His 'view' or 'perspective' is completely unrelated to ours which is built upon and within his quarks... or something? Nor does he 'understand' what is living and what is dead. Accidental evolution or intelligent design, a humanistic God is hard to fathom.

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The age old question of whether there is or is not intelligent design behind all of this that we are experiencing.

That which can be anything is nothing in particular.

It is what it is to you.  For the purpose of your experience, nothing else should matter to you.

Its nice to compare notes here.  But it is not important, as each of us has our own experience unique unto ourselves.

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Mar.12.2009
07:45AM EDT 
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Quote: "All this jumping and mixing... Just sit still. "
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Jumping and mixing are one destination, sitting still is another destination.

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So enlightened or not enlightened is the same. Or perhaps knowing they are the same is enlightenment.
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Mar.12.2009
06:23PM EDT 
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Quote: "All this jumping and mixing... Just sit still. "
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Jumping and mixing are one destination, sitting still is another destination.

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So enlightened or not enlightened is the same. Or perhaps knowing they are the same is enlightenment.
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ChonTri does not know what you and many people mean with the word "enlightened" or "not enlightened".

What he knows is when he saw some people "jumping and mixing" for a while, they got tired and they sat down still for a while.  Then they stood up and did it again... ChonTri referred those activities as the two destination.

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Mar.12.2009
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Quote: "All this jumping and mixing... Just sit still. "
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Jumping and mixing are one destination, sitting still is another destination.

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So enlightened or not enlightened is the same. Or perhaps knowing they are the same is enlightenment.
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So enlightened or not enlightened is the same. Or perhaps knowing they are the same is enlightenment.
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Reached Enlightenment, Become Enlightened, Not Enlightened, Live

Introspecting The Essence

of Mind through wisdom.

Seeking guidance is one way.

You are here.

With Metta

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