As long as you think of yourself as a human being you will be limited to that.

Human beings have been around for about 8 million years, or at least thats when anthropologists say that humans became sufficiently distinct in genetic terms to qualify as a species on their own within the family of Great Apes.

Earth is about 4.5 billion years old according to the geologists.  And Earth is only a small part of a universe full of stars and galaxies,  It doesnt even compare as a *pinpoint* to infinite space.

Then also this entire universe, even though of infinite and eternal dimensions, is only one of a virtually unlimited number of planes of existence, and doesnt even compare as a *pinpoint* in that vast volume.  In my astral travels I have been to a few other planes of existence, and later compared notes with other people who have travelled to the same places.

And then there is the Void itself, and Im by far not the only one to have trelled there, which to the best of my knowledge holds one single consciousness, or awareness, that is creating everything within itself, of itself, by itself, for itself.  Nothing else matters.

I dont know if I will have anything more or better to say further down my path.  Thats what it looks like from here, now.

Im not saying this is the Truth, but I believe it to be true now, Things as It is.

Quote: "i totally love me.

last night.

i talked to a woman ive been chatting with awhile. shes a shrink. and she dont think im nuts either. haha. but anyway. shes half black and half american indian. gorgeous woman. inside and out.

well i described in detail her office she was at at the moment. outside the window.....her being nervous and shuffeling her feet. ect.

haha.

she loves me ALOT!

and i care/respect/love/admire her.

she makes my heart sing. i tell her.

i told her also her heart was racing.

mine too.

haha.

"
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Be careful online, Shayne, remember that our friend Polly turned out to be someone named David.

She sent me naked pics.  I wonder who they were of.

Quote: "Jesus is calling but I don't like some of his friends. "
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In the history and mythology of my own visions, Jesus and I have not gotten along very well.  I dont believe it either, so thats okay.  If anything, its all just history to me, and I dont need it anymore.

By that measure, he and I disagreed in heaven, thousands of years ago, about the future of mankind.  I wanted to kill everyone, and he wanted to save everyone.  He came to teach, and was killed.  I came to kill, and found true love with the Spirit instead. 

So not everyone will be killed, and not everyone will be saved.  That is our compromise agreement.  By this standard, those who are saved would live forever, and those who are not would be dead forever.  But like I said, I dont believe it either.

What I believe is that when I die I will return to the Void, to my own plane of existence in the Void, and be there with the Spirit forever.  She tells me that, in essence, it will be like a star trek holodeck, an entire universe in itself of our choosing at any time, for *an eternity*. 

Now, that is what I want, and it is what I choose to believe in.

Choose what you want to believe in, and I wish you well in your own plane of existence.  There is no limit to how many of them the Spirit can create.

You talk to Polly ?

Quote: "You can fulfill your role in life with your humanity
But, to rise above it means that you can be more than human
It that even possible?? Be more than human??
Be a Buddha???
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I did not mean to be more than human, and being a buddha is not more than human.

The ego is limited to accomplishment in human terms, constantly striving to achieve more in human terms.

I meant to reassess the value of *human terms*.  Is this really accomplishment ? Or does this hold you back from something else ?

In my own plane of existence in the Void I can have an unlimited number of chests of gold and jewels.  However they have no value there, except just to wear them.  They are not currency since they have no relevancy to anyone else.  And since I plan to spend an eternity there, why should I strive to accumlate golf and jewels in this world?  Why would I want to strive for anything in this world that does not have relevancy in my own world ?

Jesus said something about *setting up your stores in Heaven, not on Earth*.  We are here for only a short time.

when you can no longer be a threat to a fellow human you have achieved humanity'

many species are of no threat to each other , like cows ,sheep

Homo sapiens has still to reach that level.

good night joe

the middle of winter

the chill absent

A moth was sleeping on my desk a while ago.

Not there now, I guess he left.

the perceived space between you

unites you

so how could it ever leave?

It didnt need to.

It wasnt really there to begin with, as neither am I.

Im just a wisp of ether, too.

Quote: "It seems to me that  to rise above humanity mean getting out of the human conciousness. Or you may call it universal conciousness.
Your conciousness is nothing but a group conciousness which is human that has resulted in all the wars and miseries of man.

Going above that conciousness is really a miraculous feat.
"
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Its been miraculous for me personally, but Im not writing any books, or selling wisdom.

Through the practice of astral travel via transcendental meditation, I have had visionary experiences in which I am not always human, and not always in this world.

Real or imaginary, as if there were a difference, this has given me the opportunity to see myself other than as human, and as not residing in this world exclusively.  I have not always even been me, although returning to human form as myself here afterwards.

By talking about rising above humanity I did not mean to exceed humanity, or be better than humanity, just not to limit yourself to being human in a Universe of unlimited possibilities.

It will be as It will be, we just have to wait and see, and accept Things as It is.

maybe someday the cows and sheep may one day evolve to the wonderful state that humanity has reached,   and seek out a toddler or two to feast on a leg of human

no, it cant happen,

 the cows and sheep don't the motivation for wealth and fame to motivate them nor free to air t v  to guide them

your too kind Joe

do need some new work clothes though

my last post was going to tag onto the previous i sent

you delicate touch of poetry snuck between the two and was fussed with neither

left its tail stuck in the window too long

and satori eluded it

Quote: "Above humanity means having a conciousness that is radically different from the human conciousness. "
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I sure hope so.

Mankind is one of the most inhumane animals I have ever encountered.

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So, do you mean the consciousness of a bird which is so radically different from humans??

Thats really the point, the consciousness of other beings, plant, animal, and spirit, is not greatly different than us. 

Its just the humans who think they are different, and that no other species or beings count.  Human ego-centricity.

All the others pretty much see it as us all being in it together.

Quote: "Quote: "A distinctly, and some might say, instrinsically crucial human trait is hallowedness"
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Says who, and by whose standard?  Would we be able to recognize an enlightened elephant, or tell the difference between it and a foolish pachyderm? 
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We could easily recognize an enlightened elephant, generally speaking, by just recognising an elephant.

Secondly, what are we talking about, being enlightened or having hallowedness?

And if you see a foolish pachyderm, have compassion, it is probably a circus animal or a burdened working elephant, because man would have confused it from its nature.

Im not going by that.

All my life Ive been an *empath*.  I can feel the feelings of others, including animals.

One day, trapping gophers on the farm with my cousin, with a gloved hand I flipped a gopher over on his back and prepared to run him through with the stake from the trap.  I was 9 or 10 at the time.  I certainly wouldnt do that today.  I just wouldnt be there.

He looked up at me with an expression, and feeling, that said, *Oh, you SOB !!*  I felt bad about it, but I was doing a job, clearing the fields of damaging hole makers, so I killed him.

Looking back, the gopher did not harm the field, and I did not murder him.  We both just did what we were there to do, pleasant or not.

My cousin still has those traps, and still traps gophers, but I dont think I have gone with him since that day, although I have never said anything was wrong with it.

I was aluding to the Zen addage:  The rat does not steal, and the cat does not murder.  Each simply acts according to its nature.

The gopher was a varmint in the field, and I was a young boy collecting gopher tails.

But I have not forgotten that particular gopher, or what he showed me, which has given me a better perspective of animal life, and my place within it.

I was aluding to the Zen addage:  The rat does not steal, and the cat does not murder.  Each simply acts according to its nature.

The gopher was a varmint in the field, and I was a young boy collecting gopher tails.

But I have not forgotten that particular gopher, or what he showed me, which has given me a better perspective of animal life, and my place within it.

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I regret to say I still had more to learn.  I didnt apply this lesson to other forms of life, ie:  insects and plants, until I had similar events with them too.

One day, just after Bic lighters had come out, a friend and I thought they made great flame throwers.  We were using them on some dragonflies down by the lake.

Suddenly, one of the dragonflies that I had just burned flew around and landed on my hand, and what I *felt* from it was, *Look what you did.*

One of its wings was very badly burned.  Obviously its ability to survive was shot.  I killed it as quickly as I could and resolved not to harm any more animals unnecessarily, of any type.

I also used to grow my own marijuana.  After six months they were too big for he 5 gal pots they were in and needed to be harvested. 

Before I cut them down, I would thank them, and then enter a *silence* to listen to them.  I felt different things from all of them.  Each had its own nature and personality.  Some were spartan about the whole thing and would essentially say, *Lets do it*, while others would beg for their lives.

Killing is a part of life.  Sometimes it is the proper thing to do, and other times it is unnecessary.  Whether it is right or wrong depends on the circumstances.  Im not for it or against it, just as I am not for living or dying in and of themselves.  It depends on the circumstances.  Each case must be evaluated on its own merits.

Quote: "My nature is to save. "
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Very fortunate. 

Mine is to kill.  But not to harm.  I go from wishing no harm, to wanting to kill in one jump, no middle ground. 

It scares me to know this can happen faster than I can stop it when I am attacked.  Ive had some close calls.