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vertical line Posted on Jul.21.2012 @ 10:46PM EDT by zenmanstan
you pick your life

and how terrible it is to you,
some poeple are born retarded

its like  a trade, how intelligent cool funny you are all leads into how terrible your fate is

or is it how good you are?
idont know

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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.22.2012
06:12AM EDT 
vertical line Itsth a mystheOry.
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Jul.22.2012
07:26AM EDT 
vertical line How did I come into the world?
Why was I not consulted?
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Jul.22.2012
01:57PM EDT 
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vertical line Karma says that if you want to know why you are where you are .. then look to your past
If you want to know where you are headed .. then look at where you are now
There is no mystery. It is there if you want to see it.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.22.2012
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vertical line Karma is action.

To know yourself is an unknowing into mystery.
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Reply from zenmanstan
Jul.22.2012
03:47PM EDT 
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vertical line i came because my dream is unconditional love.
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Jul.22.2012
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vertical line Quote: "i came because my dream is unconditional love. "
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I don't understand ...
you came because you had a sleeping episode about unconditional love
or did you come because you had a goal of unconditional love??
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Jul.22.2012
11:31PM EDT 
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vertical line Thats just what came to me when posed the question why did i come here
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Jul.22.2012
11:36PM EDT 
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vertical line i dont know about any doctors. tootoot
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Jul.23.2012
01:09AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Thats just what came to me when posed the question why did i come here
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You don't know the meaning of your answers??
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.23.2012
08:01AM EDT 
vertical line Visibly unfathomable, unnameable - a riddle wrapped in an enigma - a half-truth disguising a lie, a formless form, an image of nothing.

A faulty theory confusing description with explanation, explaining nothing - an experience of pain and terror face to face with the mysterium tremendum - man's egoism meets the divine, in between self-separateness and infinity.
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Reply from frozenaomi
Jul.23.2012
01:19PM EDT 
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vertical line We are here because we are here.  Why does there need to be a greater reason?  What difference does what came before make?  Then is not now.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.23.2012
01:29PM EDT 
vertical line Ever boddhi gotta be sun wear.
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Jul.23.2012
01:49PM EDT 
vertical line I gotta be d own st air - I can hear coffee calling.
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Jul.23.2012
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vertical line Quote: "We are here because we are here.  Why does there need to be a greater reason?  What difference does what came before make?  Then is not now. "
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If you want to know the reason for what you are now then look to the past
If you want to know your future then look to the present.
There is no greater reason.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.23.2012
07:32PM EDT 
vertical line I look around.
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Jul.23.2012
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vertical line Quote: "I look around."
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What have you found?
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Reply from zenmanstan
Jul.23.2012
09:33PM EDT 
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vertical line hes talkinga bout me
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Jul.23.2012
09:36PM EDT 
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vertical line and is it possible to know of other people's badness?
 ive seen two things on occasion one was someone slapping someone elses ass on Family Feud and the announcer went insane on him and the other was garth from waynseworld the actor jumping on conan obriens desk,
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Jul.23.2012
11:17PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "I look around."
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What have you found?
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Blue Sky
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Jul.24.2012
01:04AM EDT 
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vertical line It has rained here for the past two hours.
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Reply from zenmanstan
Jul.25.2012
11:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "I gotta be d own st air - I can hear coffee calling."
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i love that how did you do it and what is it?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.26.2012
07:17AM EDT 
vertical line I don't know how.

It's ... Perhaps for every star, there's a neurotransmitter lighting up the synaptic vault of heaven - I will call it the neuroscience of love - a wholesome diet crystallised in the nothingness of total presence. I don't know, but a word to the wise, if anyone asks, you ain't seen me. Ok?
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Jul.26.2012
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vertical line Blue sky after the rain.
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Jul.26.2012
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vertical line I love the heavens, and the earth, I am in between, uniting the two into one voice, one word, one hand clapping, reaching out from within. 
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Jul.27.2012
12:29AM EDT 
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vertical line is it possible to be funny?
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Jul.27.2012
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vertical line Quote: "Karma says that if you want to know why you are where you are .. then look to your past
If you want to know where you are headed .. then look at where you are now
There is no mystery. It is there if you want to see it.
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no past, only illusion,
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Jul.27.2012
02:45AM EDT 
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vertical line Even when Buddha attained Buddha-hood, he was still wrapped up in Karma.
It isn't easy to erase the past ... illusion or not.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.27.2012
07:07AM EDT 
vertical line The past controls you, both.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.27.2012
07:10AM EDT 
vertical line Oh, I just had a funny feeling about reality - so now you are obliged to marry me.
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Jul.27.2012
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vertical line Quote: "Even when Buddha attained Buddha-hood, he was still wrapped up in Karma.
It isn't easy to erase the past ... illusion or not.


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Is that so
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Jul.27.2012
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Even when Buddha attained Buddha-hood, he was still wrapped up in Karma.
It isn't easy to erase the past ... illusion or not.


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Is that so
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This is so ... that is moe .. and I'm curly jo
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Jul.27.2012
01:02PM EDT 
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vertical line So this past thing thus karma what is it's relevance ? It effects me in the now. Oh then it is not the past it would be now?
Anything which is affecting my life (such as it is for explanation) is by definition happening now. It is not the past it it is not the future. these things only exist in the mind.
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Jul.27.2012
01:21PM EDT 
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vertical line You go beyond my reach.
Karma isn't part of the illusion and yet it is.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.27.2012
01:36PM EDT 
vertical line [Quiet] ... and ... ACTION !!! !! !
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Jul.27.2012
02:13PM EDT 
vertical line "hrrrmmmhh"... eeehhh.. whats my line?
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Jul.27.2012
02:40PM EDT 
vertical line oh oh, oh oh ...
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.28.2012
06:18AM EDT 
vertical line It let it show that it didn't know ... the song lyric - just goes to blow.
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Jul.28.2012
09:22PM EDT 
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vertical line super cool radio! i decided the soul is created to help people to break out of their egos. its to induce bravery by time released events designed to explore the depth of your fear basically.

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Jul.29.2012
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Quote: "super cool radio! i decided the soul is created to help people to break out of their egos. its to induce bravery by time released events designed to explore the depth of your fear basically.

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I dont have recollections of other lives Ive lived,

may have seen some things in visions, I dont know for sure.

But I am sure that if I could remember such things,

I would not be able to remain *in character* in this one.

Im pretty sure that why, and that upon death, returning to a spiritual state,

I will be able to remember what I need to remember to do what I need to do.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.29.2012
06:55AM EDT 
vertical line Fearful ego-strengthening.
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Aug.03.2012
12:45PM EDT 
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Quote: "super cool radio! i decided the soul is created to help people to break out of their egos. its to induce bravery by time released events designed to explore the depth of your fear basically.

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I dont have recollections of other lives Ive lived,

may have seen some things in visions, I dont know for sure.

But I am sure that if I could remember such things,

I would not be able to remain *in character* in this one.

Im pretty sure that why, and that upon death, returning to a spiritual state,

I will be able to remember what I need to remember to do what I need to do.

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What needs to be remembered and what needs to be done ... also who is the one who has to do all these things?? Are you the one?? Neo??

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Aug.03.2012
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vertical line My Theory is that whatever was said before in Zen or Zen Buddhism .. it was said it accordance to what the audience or disciples was ready for ... according to their practice.

What good does it do to tell a novice that Zen is to become stupid? He may not be ready for this and then decide not to practice Zazen. What greater crime to another person can you commit then to deny them life?

What good does it do to tell a person to go kill the Buddha? When the understanding isn't there yet. O trying telling someone that Zen is not seeking Zen and not seeking Buddha. Did that set them on their way to awakening or even just to have a better life?

Teach according to the ability of ...

ahh, nvm, the feeling here is everyone thinks they have the answers ...
but the truth will come out.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Aug.03.2012
02:03PM EDT 
vertical line Truth is, the garden of truth.

Theoretically, you're just another Internet expert.
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Aug.03.2012
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vertical line Quote: "Truth is, the garden of truth.

Theoretically, you're just another Internet expert.
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No, I am another frustrated learner ...
I don't claim to have any wisdom ... just practical sense and some understanding
Of course, I little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Truth is there is no Garden of Truth
Truth is right there in front of our eyes if we have eyes to see

Damn, I hate having the stink of Zen ...
I need another shower and my bowl of soup.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Aug.03.2012
05:04PM EDT 
vertical line Dazzling darkness - a desert garden full of wonders, wet with rain and encircled by the flame of a glittering black light, directing breath to all parts of the alphabet.
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