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vertical line Posted on Sep.15.2012 @ 07:30AM EDT by shayne
It’s impossible to understand the present Middle East without a knowledge of the three great religions that emanate from the area—Judaism, Christianity and Islam. These three faiths all trace their spiritual roots back to the same individual, Abraham.

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Reply from Woodsman
Sep.15.2012
09:43AM EDT 
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vertical line In you as in me as one we see together being illuminated. 
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Reply from Joe Chip
Sep.16.2012
10:30AM EDT 
vertical line Before Ishmael was, before Isaac was, before Abraham was ...
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vertical line Posted on Sep.15.2012 @ 07:30AM GMT-5 by shayne
It’s impossible to understand the present Middle East without a knowledge of the three great religions that emanate from the area—Judaism, Christianity and Islam. These three faiths all trace their spiritual roots back to the same individual, Abraham.
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It is easy to understand ...
the cause -- greed (clinging), hatred (aversion) and ignorance (delusion)
among other things like pride, avarice, sloth, wrath, lust, envy, gluttony, greed (again)
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Reply from justin
Sep.18.2012
10:21AM EDT 
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vertical line Did anyone mention a imperialist foreign policy?
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Reply from justin
Sep.18.2012
10:28AM EDT 
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vertical line Or the fact that the only people we can trust are from tge middle east!! The only people telling the truth the only people with the gumption to stick by their beliefs. The only people to live and die by their faith. What do we have by comparison?

A lot of sheep, who will do anything to fit in and to further their material aims, whilst understanding and totally knowing the wrongs of our governments and financial system (especially u Americans) the omorallity and total absence of faith, of trust in life.

But don't worry to much folks cause we do have television and that will keep us suitably distracted (and stupid and hating whoever we are told to hate)
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Reply from justin
Sep.18.2012
10:33AM EDT 
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vertical line The perfect 'forever' enemy. And even more perfect because it does not exist, except to keep the world on edge. The enemy which doesn't exist except in tge imagination is perpetual.

How do I know ? The tele of course.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Sep.18.2012
10:46AM EDT 
vertical line Wait, only a prophet recognises a prophet, um, poet.
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Reply from starduster
Sep.18.2012
10:53AM EDT 
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As long as I can pay my bills and taxes, the economy is okay.

As long as I can get back and forth to work, there is no gas crisis.

The only war I will fight is when a foreign army marches up my driveway.

I dont care if television drains my brain, I dont want anything in there anyway.

All of the problems of the world are not my problems, just my own are enough.

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Reply from nibble
Sep.18.2012
05:31PM EDT 
vertical line Just me that thought some kinda totally inappropriate private picture from Shayne's webcam when stumbling over this tread??..:)
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Reply from nibble
Sep.18.2012
05:45PM EDT 
vertical line Sorry, this forum starts to bore me.. like an old record out of tune, Scratched and moldy, jumping over the same chip (pun intended:) over and over and over and it`s like never ....   .
It's either me or all of you, not easy to say, anyway, now, entertain me!

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Reply from Woodsman
Sep.18.2012
06:11PM EDT 
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vertical line The sun is out, with clouds in the sky and it is pouring rain!

Tell him that, her, and them.




























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Reply from justin
Sep.19.2012
12:39AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "

As long as I can pay my bills and taxes, the economy is okay.

As long as I can get back and forth to work, there is no gas crisis.

The only war I will fight is when a foreign army marches up my driveway.

I dont care if television drains my brain, I dont want anything in there anyway.

All of the problems of the world are not my problems, just my own are enough.

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you consider yourself seperate from the world?

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Reply from Joe Chip
Sep.19.2012
09:21AM EDT 
vertical line Here it is where you could be under consideration - in the world but not of the world. Walking over the world and building no housey thar. But you need to be a Jesua to understand a Jesua. A poet to understand a poet. A Buddha to understand a Budgie to understand a, et al.
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Reply from starduster
Sep.19.2012
03:14PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "

As long as I can pay my bills and taxes, the economy is okay.

As long as I can get back and forth to work, there is no gas crisis.

The only war I will fight is when a foreign army marches up my driveway.

I dont care if television drains my brain, I dont want anything in there anyway.

All of the problems of the world are not my problems, just my own are enough.

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you consider yourself seperate from the world?
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you consider yourself seperate from the world?
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Im not separate from my nose either, yet I feel no obligation to pick at it.

Man has been genetically distinct as a species among the Apes for about 8 million years, and bipedal for about 3 or 4 million years, which is what we would call the dawn of man.

Technologically, we have survived and progressed in a stellar fashion.  But have we really advanced socially since the first homonid picked up a stick and hit another?

Usually, worldy concern translates into people thinking they should force others to see things their way, for their own good, and for the good of the world and mankind. 

Thats how wars get started.

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