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  One day a Vinaya master asked a Zen master:
-How should one practice Tao?
The Zen master replied:
-Eat when you are hungry, sleep when you are tired.
The Vinaya master said:
-Most people do that.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: TALDUWE SOMARAMA
vertical line Posted on Sep.26.2012 @ 10:50AM EDT by starduster

*On September 25, 1959, Talduwe Somarama, a Buddhist Monk, shot and killed the Prime Minister of Ceylon:

*Allegedly drafted in to the conspiracy by Mapitigama Buddharakkitha, the chief incumbent of the Kelaniya Raja Maha Vihara Temple,[1] Somarama reluctantly consented to assassinate the Prime Minister, "for the greater good of his country, race and religion".

*Although Buddharakkitha attributed Bandaranaike's failure to aggressively pursue the Nationalist reforms as the motive to eliminate him, the real reason appeared to be the Prime Minister's refusal to award business deals, in particular a shipping contract, to a company floated by the Chief Priest, Mapitigama Buddharakkitha.* (Wikipedia)

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This is why I do not believe in paths, because I do not believe in leaders.

I just believe in the top of the mountain, because from there it is clear to see that all paths lead there, and why it doesnt matter which way you come.


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Reply from Avisitor
Sep.27.2012
02:06PM EDT 
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vertical line A deadly game of politics and greed ... clinging causes suffering.
I have no desire for such intrigue
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Reply from starduster
Sep.28.2012
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Wanting nothing, needing nothing, being nothing....

Wanting leads to needing, and needing leads to suffering.

If you dont want anything, you dont need anything, no suffering.

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Reply from zenmanstan
Sep.28.2012
07:31PM EDT 
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vertical line i left hell today
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Reply from Riverstone
Sep.29.2012
12:30AM EDT 
vertical line From my experience of the Masters I have met. They are most certainly human and subject to the conditioning or karma which remains. Even the Buddha has been illustrated to make very human mistakes after his enlightenment. The Master I met whom I was able to ask questions of, admitted to this. If you were asleep and you came to be awake, you can most certainly go to sleep again. A master as a result of their awareness can choose to rise above their frame of reference rather than be subject to their impulses as most people are. And even an aware person, can choose not to rise above, but to be unseated. Unfortunately Buddhism has filtered through many a totalitarian society, with political intrigue as convoluted as the Catholic Church. I can taste the taint of these societies on the teaching methods, but the teachings are remarkably, "clean".

I am not comfortable with the hierarchical systems which have been adopted and not fully adapted to American culture. Yet, I can see the necessity. There are people running around claiming all sorts of insight and power, and in all honesty if you have an initial insight experience, it is a powerful appeal to the ego. So that these people are not seeking to deceive, but they are deceiving themselves.
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Reply from starduster
Sep.29.2012
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Quote: "From my experience of the Masters I have met. They are most certainly human and subject to the conditioning or karma which remains. Even the Buddha has been illustrated to make very human mistakes after his enlightenment. The Master I met whom I was able to ask questions of, admitted to this. If you were asleep and you came to be awake, you can most certainly go to sleep again. A master as a result of their awareness can choose to rise above their frame of reference rather than be subject to their impulses as most people are. And even an aware person, can choose not to rise above, but to be unseated. Unfortunately Buddhism has filtered through many a totalitarian society, with political intrigue as convoluted as the Catholic Church. I can taste the taint of these societies on the teaching methods, but the teachings are remarkably, "clean".

I am not comfortable with the hierarchical systems which have been adopted and not fully adapted to American culture. Yet, I can see the necessity. There are people running around claiming all sorts of insight and power, and in all honesty if you have an initial insight experience, it is a powerful appeal to the ego. So that these people are not seeking to deceive, but they are deceiving themselves.
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Sounds about right.  Awakening is not an ending, it is a new beginning, another chapter in an awareness that has neither beginning nor end.

Those who claim to be something special, particularly as Gurus or teachers, obviously are not.  I like Gangaji.  She laughs and says, *Im selling water down by the river.*

I feel sorry for those like Osho who are taken in by those whom they trusted to lead their sanga.  It was he who called the police on them.  They went to prison, but he was still deported due to their misdeeds.

Ultimately, there is no one to look up to just as there is no one to look down on.  Aside from the One itself, whom we all really are at the core of our existence, we are all equally unimportant.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Sep.29.2012
07:19AM EDT 
vertical line Gardening is fresh air and good exercise.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Sep.30.2012
07:43AM EDT 
vertical line Turns your mountain to dust.
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