In all Buddhism website I was denied the freedom to question ........everybody seems just want me to follow them . There are perhaps tens of monk if not hundred during my 3 years of communication via internet just want me to read text , understand all the terminology even follow their method in Buddhism .

I have my way that fit in my current common sense but I always seek for others realization , to learn and move from it , I always challenge my understanding and investigate on others realization ..............

After being banned in more than 8 Buddhism website , i have reason to say that THERE IS NO FREEDOM in Buddhism study .........is worst than Afganistan or even North Korea .

I just wish to debate with anyone FOR MY OWN LEARNING PROCESS ONLY ...so please give me some freedom to learn Buddhism my way ..........

Thks

CSEe

Quote: "Were you or were you not banned from Afghanistan and North Korea? "
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After I left the Navy, after 10 years active duty, I got a call from the local reserve unit wanting to know why I hadnt joined up.

I told them that if there was a real war, like a declared war, I would come back, *But until then, I am off the leash.*

When I look at the the *wars* I would have been dragged into, Im glad I stayed out.

Another Vietnam war, by any other name, is just as bad an idea.

Quote: "Were you or were you not banned from Afghanistan and North Korea? "
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Perhaps not like in Buddhism website ..............

Thks

CSEe

Quote: "What freedom are you talking about. Have you not been allowed of talking too much already. lol "
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So far most of it is just explaining regards to accusation...not much on the topic .

Thks

CSEe

Quote: "You would have to be silenced at one point. However. "
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Thks for sharing.

CSEe

Quote: "You asked a question and got many replies.
Now tell me where you think you were not allowed freedom.
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Dear Avisitor , I guess you understand my meaning more than this ......What I meant is freedom to question the Master , debate with them ..........and learn from this exercise ......you help me to find one " master" currently teaching Buddhism in Monastry ...perhaps you could claim this .

Thks

CSEe

Hi Avisitor , thanks for spending time communicate with me , you said " No, you don't understand. You have the freedom.
But, you can't see the forest from the trees." Un-quote

Perharps is not to see the forest but to be in the forest ......and if we in the forest , we understand forest is not trees ....trees is just a tiny part in forest .

But if you keep on shouting at me to come out from the forest ...perhaps you should try enter the forest and try to experience it yourself ...........Buddhism is NOT to direct others into your own path but is to challenge your own decision of choosing your path by understanding others path ........I am learning your path to challenge my will of choosing my path ........ 
 If I am outside the forest and seeing you inside the forest ...I will question why I choose to stay outside the forest ....or I can just ignor your path but realizing you in forest ...........

Thks

CSEe

ok look, here's the plan

go into the goddamn forest and take avisitor with you,

if he reckons he's already in there, he's not

go and get him and wander off into the forest, hold hands if you want so that you don't lose each other

oh yeah and be sure to take some bread with you so that you can leave a trail of crumbs so that you can find your way back out - you know, like Hansel and Gretel

oh you don't know the whole story, that's ok, I won't spoil it for you

Thanks for joinning in , I hope you could share your thought on the topic of Buddhism.

Thks

CSEe

Dear esoteric you said " All of Buddhism is explaining regards to accusation. Didn't you read the memo?

Who are you to make the rules? Stay on topic!

You mis-understand me on this , the accusation is on me , the attack on me . What rules are you referring ?

Thks

CSEe

Psychologically, we resent most in others the things that are unresolved within ourselves.

Someone pointing a finger can usually do better to turn it around and point it at themselves.

Its probably good advice, since who could spot deficiency in others better than those who possess it themselves, but the criticism is actually self-criticism, which explains the unrestrained vehemence.

Quote: "Ah, now I understand. "
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I know.  Something I have tried to learn, or those things that can be learned,

is when angry to ask myself what I am afraid of,

and when critical to point the finger at myself too.

Dear Starduster , you said " Psychologically, we resent most in others the things that are unresolved within ourselves.Someone pointing a finger can usually do better to turn it around and point it at themselves.Its probably good advice, since who could spot deficiency in others better than those who possess it themselves, but the criticism is actually self-criticism, which explains the unrestrained vehemence." un-quote ,

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Yes in human culture that is common .......but in my current understanding of Buddhism , we just impossible to send or receive from others without own will ....is all about ownself NEVER others .

Thks

CSEe

I think, at this debating issue we should look into masters;

Did Huiko debate with Bodhidharma? Yes, he asked some questions and get the answers.

On the other hand, is this debating one way or double way thing? I mean do we ask the questions to our selves or the other?

I think we should ponder on this..

Good point, there really is no other.  Just the One.

Technically, we are all the same One from a different perspective. 

Like different facets of the same jewel, difusing the same light from a different direction.

The illusion of difference.  The illusion of difference of opinion.

But its fun though isnt it ? 

It is whatever It is being.

Creator + Creation = illusion of duality,

or delusion of reality, take your choice.

Don't hurt yourself.