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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: LEARNING TO MEDITATE
vertical line Posted on Oct.03.2012 @ 05:15AM EDT by starduster

Learning to meditate is like learning to drive a car.

At first you are very careful about everything.  Hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel.  Seat adjusted just right, double checking the mirrors before taking off.

Later on you just get in the car and go.  Next thing you know, youre steering with your knee while you balance a coke in one hand and a burger in the other, shifting gears with your elbow.

Or as Osho put it, *Eventually, your life just becomes a meditation.*

I dont stress over posture or anything else anymore.  I can settle down into that comfortable place within in a moment or two, just about any time or any where.  So even if I only have a few seconds to meditate that is enough time to work with.


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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.03.2012
08:15AM EDT 
vertical line i am alone, even in a crowd, so i sit to be connected to from where i arose, again
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.03.2012
10:28AM EDT 
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vertical line The practice is realization  ... that is what someone told me.
I told him that is nice.
And, when I went to a lecture, the person said that we do not have to seek enlightenment
cause we are already enlightened.
Damn, driving two hours in the rain just to hear this .... 

I don't go to lectures anymore. Nor do I listen to wise old men who spout little sound bites of the past. I sit and practice ... there is nothing more that I want or need.
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.03.2012
11:59AM EDT 
vertical line zen cookie?
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.03.2012
01:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "zen cookie? "
.........

Thanks, I've tried some.
They are quite bitter for those who aren't ready for them.
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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.03.2012
01:25PM EDT 
vertical line leave out the zen then, and just have a cookie.

mindfully

small bites, and make each small bite last for longer in your mouth,

same with zen, small sits
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Reply from sit_teh
Oct.03.2012
04:24PM EDT 
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vertical line At first meditation was done on intentional purpose.
Now it's became a spontaneous ritual.

Simply returning to the breath in breathing consciously.
Letting everything be, happening itself.

And attentiveness; a mental attitude.
Mindfulness is full minded witnessing.



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Reply from Woodsman
Oct.03.2012
04:37PM EDT 
vertical line my pants are all covered in sawdust and wood chips
and i'm sitting in them!

how unZen is that!?

oh, there is no unzen, ok, i'll just sit then, as now
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Reply from sit_teh
Oct.04.2012
12:45AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "The practice is realization  ... that is what someone told me.
I told him that is nice.
And, when I went to a lecture, the person said that we do not have to seek enlightenment
cause we are already enlightened.
Damn, driving two hours in the rain just to hear this .... 

I don't go to lectures anymore. Nor do I listen to wise old men who spout little sound bites of the past. I sit and practice ... there is nothing more that I want or need.


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Enlightenment is a characteristic. It can be developed and fulfilled. Some work at it as a piece of their character, some leave it alone. There is enlightenment. Its all good.
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.04.2012
03:13AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "The practice is realization  ... that is what someone told me.
I told him that is nice.
And, when I went to a lecture, the person said that we do not have to seek enlightenment
cause we are already enlightened.
Damn, driving two hours in the rain just to hear this .... 

I don't go to lectures anymore. Nor do I listen to wise old men who spout little sound bites of the past. I sit and practice ... there is nothing more that I want or need.
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Although at one time you are convinced you are enlightened..lol

I think if you conclude that if you practice you are enlightened it like if you bet in the lotto you are already a winner. ...lol

Practice and you are enlightened... cool.. it seems to me the attitude is just a lazy attitude...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.04.2012
03:17AM EDT 
vertical line Or  because they want to convince themselves they are enlightened because they want a substitute for real enlightenment.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.04.2012
07:03AM EDT 
vertical line 'They' understand [enlightenment as an idea] at the level of their conditioning.
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.04.2012
12:44PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "At first meditation was done on intentional purpose.
Now it's became a spontaneous ritual.

Simply returning to the breath in breathing consciously.
Letting everything be, happening itself.

And attentiveness; a mental attitude.
Mindfulness is full minded witnessing.



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Lately, my practice has turned into a sleep marathon.
Constantly tipping to one side or the other.
Catching myself falling.
It has been a tough session.
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Oct.04.2012
12:50PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Enlightenment is a characteristic. It can be developed and fulfilled. Some work at it as a piece of their character, some leave it alone. There is enlightenment. Its all good. "
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When I started, I was in search of power. Now, all that is left is a man content to have a good practice.
I sit every day. And, I enjoy the practice. I don't want anything and am not searching for anything.
But, lately, I am tired and it has seeped into my sittings.
Maybe it is a good thing. There is something more to do .. something more to experience.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.04.2012
12:53PM EDT 
vertical line CSEe's on your banned wagon.
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Reply from sit_teh
Oct.04.2012
05:12PM EDT 
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vertical line Sitting is the lowest level of consciousness. After sitting, [nothing is.] That be the common sense of Zazen.
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Reply from football
Oct.04.2012
06:40PM EDT 
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vertical line Stick on the shoulder...
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Reply from starduster
Oct.05.2012
05:06AM EDT 
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Quote: "zen cookie? "
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did you get it at the Zen Dough ?

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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.05.2012
07:12AM EDT 
vertical line Internet Banking.
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Reply from starduster
Oct.05.2012
07:50AM EDT 
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Internet baking of zen cookies from zen dough.

This is getting too rich.  Shortbread ?  Love zen shortbread.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.05.2012
08:59AM EDT 
vertical line Master Bakers.
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.05.2012
04:51PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Master Bakers."
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Better than master debater.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.07.2012
08:09AM EDT 
vertical line Patty Cake.
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