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TOPIC: NIHILISM IS NOT TRUTH |
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Posted on Oct.17.2012 @ 06:32AM EDT by starduster
Some people seek *Nothing* as the Truth.
Thats not Zen, Buddhism, or anything other than self-nullification. Just more dellusion, substituted for the usual dellusion. No progress.
From Wikipedia:
Metaphysical nihilism
Metaphysical nihilism is the philosophical theory that there might be no objects at all, i.e. that there is a possible world in which there are no objects at all; or at least that there might be no concrete objects at all, so even if every possible world contains some objects, there is at least one that contains only abstract objects.
An extreme form of metaphysical nihilism is commonly defined as the belief that nothing exists as a correspondent component of the self efficient world."
One way of interpreting such a statement would be: It is impossible to distinguish 'existence' from 'non-existence' as there are no objective qualities, and thus a reality, that one state could possess in order to discern between the two. If one cannot discern existence from its negation, then the concept of existence has no meaning; or in other words, does not 'exist' in any meaningful way. 'Meaning' in this sense is used to argue that as existence has no higher state of reality, which is arguably its necessary and defining quality, existence itself means nothing. It could be argued that this belief, once combined with epistemological nihilism, leaves one with an all-encompassing nihilism in which nothing can be said to be real or true as such values do not exist.
A similar position can be found in solipsism; however, in this viewpoint the solipsist affirms whereas the nihilist would deny the self. Both these positions are forms of anti-realism.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.17.2012
06:36AM EDT
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Some people eh? Tutty I don't know tut. |
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Reply from Chryseis
Oct.17.2012
07:57AM EDT
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"Well, you needn't" |
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Reply from esoteric
Oct.17.2012
08:38AM EDT
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Quote: "
Some people seek *Nothing* as the Truth.
Thats not Zen, Buddhism, or anything other
than self-nullification. Just more dellusion, substituted for the usual
dellusion. No progress.
From Wikipedia:
Metaphysical nihilism
Metaphysical nihilism is the philosophical theory that there might be no objects at all, i.e. that there is a possible world in which there are no objects at all; or at least that there might be no concrete objects at all, so even if every possible world contains some objects, there is at least one that contains only abstract objects.
An extreme form of metaphysical nihilism is commonly defined as the
belief that nothing exists as a correspondent component of the self
efficient world."
One way of interpreting such a statement would be: It is impossible
to distinguish 'existence' from 'non-existence' as there are no
objective qualities, and thus a reality, that one state could possess in
order to discern between the two. If one cannot discern existence from
its negation, then the concept of existence has no meaning; or in other
words, does not 'exist' in any meaningful way. 'Meaning' in this sense
is used to argue that as existence has no higher state of reality,
which is arguably its necessary and defining quality, existence itself
means nothing. It could be argued that this belief, once combined with
epistemological nihilism, leaves one with an all-encompassing nihilism in which nothing can be said to be real or true as such values do not exist.
A similar position can be found in solipsism; however, in this viewpoint the solipsist affirms whereas the nihilist would deny the self. Both these positions are forms of anti-realism.
" .........
You don't know nothing yet.
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Reply from Chryseis
Oct.17.2012
08:45AM EDT
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"It don't mean a thing (if you ain't go that swing)" |
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.17.2012
03:54PM EDT
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I'm sorry ... what was the point of nothing?? Zen has to do with no thing not nothing.
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Reply from coedabgf
Oct.17.2012
06:29PM EDT
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because we are a living creature (being), not a thing.
coeda. son of the LIVING TRUTH (THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE). |
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Reply from starduster
Oct.18.2012
06:04AM EDT
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Quote: "I'm sorry ... what was the point of nothing?? Zen has to do with no thing not nothing. " .........
Thank you, thats what I was driving at.
Nothingness isnt nothing, even though it includes nothing, and anything else. |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.18.2012
06:10AM EDT
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No-thing not-driving at no-thingness for nothing. |
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Reply from esoteric
Oct.18.2012
07:05PM EDT
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Quote: "
Quote: "I'm sorry ... what was the point of nothing?? Zen has to do with no thing not nothing. " .........
Thank you, thats what I was driving at.
Nothingness isnt nothing, even though it includes nothing, and anything else. " .........
How many ideas is that?
What does it have to do with drinking tea?
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Reply from esoteric
Oct.18.2012
07:07PM EDT
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I'm drinking coffee. It doesn't t taste like "nothing" or "nothingness" or "anything" or "doesn't matter." |
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Reply from sit_teh
Oct.18.2012
11:40PM EDT
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I am in no bind whatsoever. |
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Reply from esoteric
Oct.18.2012
11:55PM EDT
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Quote: "I am in no bind whatsoever." .........
Great!
How will you get yourself out of that one?
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Reply from sit_teh
Oct.19.2012
12:17AM EDT
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How do you do? |
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Reply from sit_teh
Oct.19.2012
12:45AM EDT
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Oh, pretty d a m n good for a 'middleloader' like myself. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.19.2012
03:41PM EDT
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Quote: "How do you do?" .........
Oh, I do about 185 lbs. Trying to keep the weight down but I like food so much that it will kill me someday. I feel old. Or older than I am cause my body aches.
But, life is like a box of chocolates, you don't know what kind you're going to get ... hahaha
Awwhh, nuts ... again
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Reply from football
Oct.19.2012
06:09PM EDT
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I am not pessimistic about you but your words are like washed-up(dished) tea-bag. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.19.2012
08:07PM EDT
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Quote: "I am not pessimistic about you but your words are like washed-up(dished) tea-bag." .........
My words are like used tea bags?? Hahaha ... I like to recycle .... hahaha
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Reply from football
Oct.20.2012
05:54AM EDT
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recycle or ...not.Even if you tighten(press) all at the forum not a cup of tea exit (come up). |
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